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    What will be the downfall of western society?

    Will it be from an internal source, or external. Im not hoping western society will fall anytime soon, but every empire falls. And considering we use 2/3 of the world's natural resources, there are alot of angry people out there.
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    That's an easy one.

    Sinfulness + fighting the servants of God.

    That's why the Ancient Egyptians exist in Museums now.
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    no, its not going to be sinfulness. None of that religion stuff. Im talking realistic explanations or theories on what would be the cause.
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    The subserviant middle east will have nothing to do with that's for sure. It wiil probaly be an internal struggle for power which does not represent the west as a whole.
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    We use 2/3rds of the resourses? The world also depends on us to employ them, so they can live. Unless you want "nanu nanu" from the tribe of Zazu from Africa running the world, or corrupt ridden south americans or middle easterners, or socialist countries such a germany and france with shocking unemployment, theres no one else who does it better than the west.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
    That's an easy one.

    Sinfulness + fighting the servants of God.

    That's why the Ancient Egyptians exist in Museums now.
    If your suggesting that the west fighting Muslims will wipe us out, your kidding yourself...If 7 of your countries cant even defeat Israel, how do you suppose your pathetic militaries/economies are going to defeat Europe/USA combined??? Once oil is gone, the middle east will be worst off then Africa...

    To the main topic.,
    The west will never fall...The west is not an empire. The west is composed of MANY empires that have dominated the world for over a thousand years. Americans, English, Germans, Spanish, Italians, Portugese, French...Every vastly successful country in the world(Japan for example) uses ideas and economics from the west. Hell, Demming, an AMERICAN is a hero in Japan for introducing and starting there west-like economic system...The west has the technology, the west has the resources, the west has the knowlege...there will ALWAYS be a westurn superpower in the world...
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    the west will fall, it is inevitable. Every empire falls, your looking at very short time span of the world. Im not condoning the West falling, I very much enjoy western society, and would hate to have my life affected by any civil or international war that could change my daily existence. But I do believe specific countries do not hold the same power throughout eternity. No empire lasts forever.
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    Originally Posted by gonuts
    Will it be from an internal source, or external. Im not hoping western society will fall anytime soon, but every empire falls. And considering we use 2/3 of the world's natural resources, there are alot of angry people out there.
    To put it simply, I believe that the downfall of the US will be debt. Not only governmental debt but consumer debt as well, it will eventually all come crashing down.

    http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpdodt.htm
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    The day America falls apart is the day the World is blown up. Litterly.

    We aint going any where, Europeon countries have been in power for hundreds of years and are still in power. America wont be any different. Not inless a nuke war blows off and tons of countries are demolished, we aint going any where.
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    Originally Posted by Petey_G
    If your suggesting that the west fighting Muslims will wipe us out, your kidding yourself...If 7 of your countries cant even defeat Israel, how do you suppose your pathetic militaries/economies are going to defeat Europe/USA combined??? Once oil is gone, the middle east will be worst off then Africa...

    To the main topic.,
    The west will never fall...The west is not an empire. The west is composed of MANY empires that have dominated the world for over a thousand years. Americans, English, Germans, Spanish, Italians, Portugese, French...Every vastly successful country in the world(Japan for example) uses ideas and economics from the west. Hell, Demming, an AMERICAN is a hero in Japan for introducing and starting there west-like economic system...
    You seem to forget that all of these empires fell from greatness, they still exist today but are far weaker than they once were. You also seem to ignore the fact that the Europeans "borrowed" ideas from other cultures in order to become powerful (ie. gunpowder). The Deming-Circle did play an important part in Japan's post WW2 recovery but had the Axis powers been victorious, the Japanese would have controlled almost all of Asia, making the need for efficiency fairly irrelevant.

    The west has the technology,
    Asia has technology and continues to develop.

    the west has the resources,
    The west has anything but the resources it needs, especially oil, which, Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia have.

    the west has the knowlege...
    Knowledge of what other that military technology?

    there will ALWAYS be a westurn superpower in the world...
    Keep thinking that, overt arrogance always leads to destruction. Romans once believed that their city would never fall, and look at what eventually happened.
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    fireman x took the words right out of my mouth.
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    Originally Posted by fireman_x
    You seem to forget that all of these empires fell from greatness, they still exist today but are far weaker than they once were. You also seem to ignore the fact that the Europeans "borrowed" ideas from other cultures in order to become powerful (ie. gunpowder). The Deming-Circle did play an important part in Japan's post WW2 recovery but had the Axis powers been victorious, the Japanese would have controlled almost all of Asia, making the need for efficiency fairly irrelevant.

    I dont see what europeon countries taking technology from other countries more then 50 years ago has to do wiht this. But sure.


    Asia has technology and continues to develop.

    We have technology far superior then asia...and where still developing.....good luck on china catching up to us


    The west has anything but the resources it needs, especially oil, which, Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia have.

    True, But we got the money to buy those materials. I wouldnt be worrying about oil, No one will have that in a decade or so.



    Knowledge of what other that military technology?

    Medicine, Economical knowledge I suppose. What else matters besides Militairy knowledge when it comes to global affairs


    Keep thinking that, overt arrogance always leads to destruction. Romans once believed that their city would never fall, and look at what eventually happened.
    oops i double posted :-P
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    Originally Posted by fireman_x
    You seem to forget that all of these empires fell from greatness, they still exist today but are far weaker than they once were. You also seem to ignore the fact that the Europeans "borrowed" ideas from other cultures in order to become powerful (ie. gunpowder). The Deming-Circle did play an important part in Japan's post WW2 recovery but had the Axis powers been victorious, the Japanese would have controlled almost all of Asia, making the need for efficiency fairly irrelevant.

    I dont see what europeon countries taking technology from other countries more then 50 years ago has to do wiht this. But sure.


    Asia has technology and continues to develop.

    We have technology far superior then asia...and where still developing.....good luck on china catching up to us


    The west has anything but the resources it needs, especially oil, which, Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia have.

    True, But we got the money to buy those materials. I wouldnt be worrying about oil, No one will have that in a decade or so.



    Knowledge of what other that military technology?

    Medicine, Economical knowledge I suppose. What else matters besides Militairy knowledge when it comes to global affairs


    Keep thinking that, overt arrogance always leads to destruction. Romans once believed that their city would never fall, and look at what eventually happened.

    I numbered my responces based on your paragraphs.

    1.I dont see what europeon countries taking technology from other countries more then 50 years ago has to do wiht this. But sure.

    2.We have technology far superior then asia...and where still developing.....good luck on china catching up to us

    3.True, But we got the money to buy those materials. I wouldnt be worrying about oil, No one will have that in a decade or so.

    4.Medicine, Economical knowledge I suppose. What else matters besides Militairy knowledge when it comes to global affairs




    5.who's gonna take over America, Your country?
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    Doctor Grudge, a country does not have to overthrow another country to make it fall from greatness. Empires can crumble from within as well. Dissedence (pardon my spelling) could appear and cause a rift within the society, or economic problems could lead to inner-societal chaos or disruption. Another thing to all you sensitive people on the board, just because I discuss this, doesnt mean in anyway im wishing for something like this to happen. But remember, the only constant is change.
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    Originally Posted by gonuts
    Doctor Grudge, a country does not have to overthrow another country to make it fall from greatness. Empires can crumble from within as well. Dissedence (pardon my spelling) could appear and cause a rift within the society, or economic problems could lead to inner-societal chaos or disruption. Another thing to all you sensitive people on the board, just because I discuss this, doesnt mean in anyway im wishing for something like this to happen. But remember, the only constant is change.
    I'm aware your just asking a hyperthetical question. And I was just replying I dont think you want to see America fall. Yeah I know a country can fall with in it's self, but I was just making those points anyway.

    I doubt we'd revolt in US. And even wtih all these gay taxes I'm sure we wont be poor, I mean look at where we are now, We have a huge middle class, and more lower class men are going to middle class, and middle class to upper. Atleast around here, but I def know US as a whole still has a huge middle class. I really don't see any reason for the US to fall besides Nuculear war, if you guys can come up wiht somthing then I suppose it's possible.
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    Originally Posted by Doctor Grudge
    2.We have technology far superior then asia...and where still developing.....good luck on china catching up to us
    Give them twenty years and they might.

    4.Medicine, Economical knowledge I suppose. What else matters besides Militairy knowledge when it comes to global affairs
    So you think that international "diplomacy" should be handled by bombs? It's funny how people like yourself will be complaining that other countries hate us.

    5.who's gonna take over America, Your country?
    I live in Texas, don't be so quick to make foolish assumptions. If you had read my earlier post you would see that I never claimed that any country would "take over" the US, but that debt would cause a collapse.
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    Originally Posted by fireman_x
    Give them twenty years and they might.



    So you think that international "diplomacy" should be handled by bombs? It's funny how people like yourself will be complaining that other countries hate us.



    I live in Texas, don't be so quick to make foolish assumptions. If you had read my earlier post you would see that I never claimed that any country would "take over" the US, but that debt would cause a collapse.



    People Like Me? It's also funny How "People Like you" are quick to judge and catagorize. =\ Let me ask you a question, Do you hate America? <;]?

    Anyhoot explain with a bit more detail, How Debt would cause rebellion or the collapse of the US.

    :Rolleyes: I wasn't sure what they met by Knowledge, And I was gonna add in Diplomacy, But I didn't think it'd take Albert Einstein to negociate *excuse spelling*, we've been doing it for years and years.

    Yeah and in 20 years I could develop dick cancer, It aint likley for me and it aint likley that Asia will surpass US in Militairy strenght.
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    Doctor Grudge, you are thinking short term. Im not talking 20, 40, or even a century. The western empire may exist for another milliennia, who knows, but eventually everything has its beginning and ending.
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    Originally Posted by gonuts
    Doctor Grudge, you are thinking short term. Im not talking 20, 40, or even a century. The western empire may exist for another milliennia, who knows, but eventually everything has its beginning and ending.
    I've already given my reason, Nuculear war.
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    very possible, Doctor Grudge. But that would suck for the survivors of any nuclear attack.
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    Originally Posted by gonuts
    the west will fall, it is inevitable. Every empire falls, your looking at very short time span of the world. Im not condoning the West falling, I very much enjoy western society, and would hate to have my life affected by any civil or international war that could change my daily existence. But I do believe specific countries do not hold the same power throughout eternity. No empire lasts forever.
    Yes, individual empires fall...THE WEST IS NOT A ****ING INDIVIDUAL EMPIRE...The point I made is the west(as a whole) as controlled world affairs for the last 2000 years, and will continue to control world affair untill the world unites....
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    Originally Posted by Doctor Grudge
    The day America falls apart is the day the World is blown up. Litterly.

    We aint going any where, Europeon countries have been in power for hundreds of years and are still in power. America wont be any different. Not inless a nuke war blows off and tons of countries are demolished, we aint going any where.
    no, ameirca will fall some day. the Europeon countries that you are talking about that are still in power, they have lost their power over time. also war isn't the only thing that can make a country fall.
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    When the sun burns out Western civilization will fall.
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    no, ameirca will fall some day. the Europeon countries that you are talking about that are still in power, they have lost their power over time. also war isn't the only thing that can make a country fall.
    Agreed. If the European countries are still in power where did England’s empire go? The Spanish? These countries at one stage or another controlled the economies of the world almost single-handedly.

    As for America it is not so much an issue of when we will fall as when someone else will rise. We are slowly depleting our resources while places like China and India have vast untapped resources and huge amounts of man power. China has been building it's industry for a long time and once it builds momentum those economically lesser countries that cling to American investment will turn their interest to China, reducing our economy and leaving us to start to sort out the excessive economic policies we have been running to cope with life as an ex-superpower.

    The Persian Empire fell, The Parthian Empire fell, the Roman Empire fell, the German Holy Roman Empire, the British, Spanish, Portuguese empires all fell. America is lesser than all of these, we too will fall.
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    Originally Posted by Stinker
    Agreed. If the European countries are still in power where did England’s empire go? The Spanish? These countries at one stage or another controlled the economies of the world almost single-handedly.

    As for America it is not so much an issue of when we will fall as when someone else will rise. We are slowly depleting our resources while places like China and India have vast untapped resources and huge amounts of man power. China has been building it's industry for a long time and once it builds momentum those economically lesser countries that cling to American investment will turn their interest to China, reducing our economy and leaving us to start to sort out the excessive economic policies we have been running to cope with life as an ex-superpower.

    The Persian Empire fell, The Parthian Empire fell, the Roman Empire fell, the German Holy Roman Empire, the British, Spanish, Portuguese empires all fell. America is lesser than all of these, we too will fall.
    I agree all empires do fall. History tells us that. But the American "empire" is the strongest and most powerful world power there has ever been. Our knowledge of distant countries and our technological resources which allow us to watch everyone else is makes us so strong. These other powers did not have the communication speed we have. The entire world will have to fall into total chaos to remotely affect us. China is not as powerful as they portray theirselves. They have a difficult time feeding their own people. Their resources are dramatically less than ours.
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    america will spend too much money pissing off too many other countries and end up cornering itself.
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    america will spend too much money pissing off too many other countries and end up cornering itself.
    Most countries won't even take up for theirselves why would they ban together and "corner" America?
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    Originally Posted by gonuts
    What will be the downfall of western society?
    Excessive exploitaion of third world countries' starving factory workers, causing an extinction of the lower & middle class workers leading to mass rioting, revolting and general mayhem, all because of our petty consumption of meaningless goods.










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    Death of the West, by Patrick Buchanan does an excellent job of answering that question. It is the best book I've read in years.

    A Republic, Not an Empire by teh same author is just as good. I'm currently reading a third book by him. Excellent American, very knowledgable, great books.
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    Originally Posted by waterfowler
    Most countries won't even take up for theirselves why would they ban together and "corner" America?
    i didn't mean that, i meant america will probably overestimate its wealth, power and the amount of support it has and eventually cross the line (ie try to take over the world).
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