Will it be from an internal source, or external. Im not hoping western society will fall anytime soon, but every empire falls. And considering we use 2/3 of the world's natural resources, there are alot of angry people out there.
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02-26-2005, 08:48 AM #1
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02-26-2005, 08:49 AM #2
That's an easy one.
Sinfulness + fighting the servants of God.
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02-26-2005, 08:54 AM #3
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02-26-2005, 08:57 AM #4
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02-26-2005, 10:05 AM #5
We use 2/3rds of the resourses? The world also depends on us to employ them, so they can live. Unless you want "nanu nanu" from the tribe of Zazu from Africa running the world, or corrupt ridden south americans or middle easterners, or socialist countries such a germany and france with shocking unemployment, theres no one else who does it better than the west.
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02-26-2005, 12:14 PM #6Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
To the main topic.,
The west will never fall...The west is not an empire. The west is composed of MANY empires that have dominated the world for over a thousand years. Americans, English, Germans, Spanish, Italians, Portugese, French...Every vastly successful country in the world(Japan for example) uses ideas and economics from the west. Hell, Demming, an AMERICAN is a hero in Japan for introducing and starting there west-like economic system...The west has the technology, the west has the resources, the west has the knowlege...there will ALWAYS be a westurn superpower in the world...
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02-26-2005, 12:44 PM #7
the west will fall, it is inevitable. Every empire falls, your looking at very short time span of the world. Im not condoning the West falling, I very much enjoy western society, and would hate to have my life affected by any civil or international war that could change my daily existence. But I do believe specific countries do not hold the same power throughout eternity. No empire lasts forever.
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02-26-2005, 12:50 PM #8Originally Posted by gonuts
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02-26-2005, 12:56 PM #9
The day America falls apart is the day the World is blown up. Litterly.
We aint going any where, Europeon countries have been in power for hundreds of years and are still in power. America wont be any different. Not inless a nuke war blows off and tons of countries are demolished, we aint going any where.
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02-26-2005, 01:07 PM #10Originally Posted by Petey_G
The west has the technology,
the west has the resources,
the west has the knowlege...
there will ALWAYS be a westurn superpower in the world...
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02-26-2005, 01:09 PM #11
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02-26-2005, 01:15 PM #12
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02-26-2005, 01:17 PM #13Originally Posted by fireman_x
I numbered my responces based on your paragraphs.
1.I dont see what europeon countries taking technology from other countries more then 50 years ago has to do wiht this. But sure.
2.We have technology far superior then asia...and where still developing.....good luck on china catching up to us
3.True, But we got the money to buy those materials. I wouldnt be worrying about oil, No one will have that in a decade or so.
4.Medicine, Economical knowledge I suppose. What else matters besides Militairy knowledge when it comes to global affairs
5.who's gonna take over America, Your country?
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02-26-2005, 01:19 PM #14
Doctor Grudge, a country does not have to overthrow another country to make it fall from greatness. Empires can crumble from within as well. Dissedence (pardon my spelling) could appear and cause a rift within the society, or economic problems could lead to inner-societal chaos or disruption. Another thing to all you sensitive people on the board, just because I discuss this, doesnt mean in anyway im wishing for something like this to happen. But remember, the only constant is change.
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02-26-2005, 01:28 PM #15Originally Posted by gonuts
I doubt we'd revolt in US. And even wtih all these gay taxes I'm sure we wont be poor, I mean look at where we are now, We have a huge middle class, and more lower class men are going to middle class, and middle class to upper. Atleast around here, but I def know US as a whole still has a huge middle class. I really don't see any reason for the US to fall besides Nuculear war, if you guys can come up wiht somthing then I suppose it's possible.
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02-26-2005, 01:29 PM #16Originally Posted by Doctor Grudge
4.Medicine, Economical knowledge I suppose. What else matters besides Militairy knowledge when it comes to global affairs
5.who's gonna take over America, Your country?
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02-26-2005, 01:31 PM #17Originally Posted by fireman_x
People Like Me? It's also funny How "People Like you" are quick to judge and catagorize. =\ Let me ask you a question, Do you hate America? <;]?
Anyhoot explain with a bit more detail, How Debt would cause rebellion or the collapse of the US.
:Rolleyes: I wasn't sure what they met by Knowledge, And I was gonna add in Diplomacy, But I didn't think it'd take Albert Einstein to negociate *excuse spelling*, we've been doing it for years and years.
Yeah and in 20 years I could develop dick cancer, It aint likley for me and it aint likley that Asia will surpass US in Militairy strenght.Last edited by Doctor Grudge; 02-26-2005 at 01:34 PM.
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02-26-2005, 08:01 PM #24
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Originally Posted by Twiggy316225
As for America it is not so much an issue of when we will fall as when someone else will rise. We are slowly depleting our resources while places like China and India have vast untapped resources and huge amounts of man power. China has been building it's industry for a long time and once it builds momentum those economically lesser countries that cling to American investment will turn their interest to China, reducing our economy and leaving us to start to sort out the excessive economic policies we have been running to cope with life as an ex-superpower.
The Persian Empire fell, The Parthian Empire fell, the Roman Empire fell, the German Holy Roman Empire, the British, Spanish, Portuguese empires all fell. America is lesser than all of these, we too will fall.
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02-26-2005, 08:40 PM #25Originally Posted by Stinker
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02-26-2005, 08:54 PM #28Originally Posted by gonuts
That or a giant gama ray burst from neighboring galaxy..."I find this thread allows me to be a more positive person" - TheDukeUSMC -- commenting on the sexy gif thread.
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