Elemantary teacher beats NFL Strength Challenge Record

[StrongInChrist]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MucxDIhcEU4
An average Joe breaks the record. He didnt lock out the reps but neither do they. He didnt BOUNCE one of them and they bounce ALL OF THEM. NFL players are insane athletes but Im surprised at how strong most of them arent I remember watching Urlacher bench 275 for 7 or 8 reps max. I realize they dont train for powerlifting or anything but people idolize their strength as though they do. They are by no means the strongest men in the world like some people portray them.

I am talking about barbell strength here I will admit that they are some of the worlds strongest men as far as athleticism goes, because a lot of their strength is functional strength.

I realize most of us new this, but some people think otherwise.

Edit: not sure what the record is Im just going by memory and what the vid says

[marco187]

dude is strong.

[JDR13]

Originally Posted by marco187

dude is strong.

No he's not. Consider that guy obviously weighs way more than 225 himself, give him credit for endurance, not strength.

[StrongInChrist]

Originally Posted by JDR13

No he's not. Consider that guy obviously weighs way more than 225 himself, give him credit for endurance, not strength.

I realize that but hes about half the size of Larry Allen

[Bodysteele]

Originally Posted by StrongInChrist

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MucxDIhcEU4
An average Joe breaks the record. He didnt lock out the reps but neither do they. He didnt BOUNCE one of them and they bounce ALL OF THEM. NFL players are insane athletes but Im surprised at how strong most of them arent I remember watching Urlacher bench 275 for 7 or 8 reps max. I realize they dont train for powerlifting or anything but people idolize their strength as though they do. They are by no means the strongest men in the world like some people portray them.

I am talking about barbell strength here I will admit that they are some of the worlds strongest men as far as athleticism goes, because a lot of their strength is functional strength.

I realize most of us new this, but some people think otherwise.

Edit: not sure what the record is Im just going by memory and what the vid says

A flat benchpress is a terrible exercise to simulate football related movement.....therefore Brian Urlacher benching WELL OVER HIS BODYWEIGHT 8 times isnt a testament to how WEAK he is...rather how smart his training has been considering he verts like 38-40 inchs @ 250+ lbs....which is a MUCH better indicator of field power.

In fact STRENGTH is hardly useful at all in football or most sports...for the most part it is EXPLOSIVE power that is useful.

Ive seen Urlacher clean over 300lbs for reps in a video of him as a Lobo in college the man is tall, fast, and explosive/powerful.

[Bodysteele]

Originally Posted by StrongInChrist

I realize that but hes about half the size of Larry Allen

And still Larry Allen probably can jump higher than 80% of this forum....

And for sure is quicker over short distances than most of it also.

Larry Allern is 555X the athlete say...Gene Rychlak is and that is a fact.

Face it 95% of our fast twitch freaks are in the NFL here in America...if they wanted to devote their lives to slapping a benchshirt on, arching a gut up, and moving a bar 4 inchs for 5K bucks 3 times a year theyd own almost every record out there.

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[StrongInChrist]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

And still Larry Allen probably can jump higher than 80% of this forum....

And for sure is quicker over short distances than most of it also.

Larry Allern is 555X the athlete say...Gene Rychlak is and that is a fact.

Face it 95% of our fast twitch freaks are in the NFL here in America...if they wanted to devote their lives to slapping a benchshirt on, arching a gut up, and moving a bar 4 inchs for 5K bucks 3 times a year theyd own almost every record out there.

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First off I implore you to reread my first post. I already said they are top rate athletes in strength and power just not MOVING A BARBELL. I am referring strictly to those that think they can MOVE A BARBELL.

And fast twitch MUSCLE FREAK? I am almost as strong as Urlacher at 180 pounds! Guess what......he probably trains more than me too If you call that a genentic freak then I wonder what you consider me and all the other gym rats that are stronger than them. What about the guy in the vid? He cerainly didnt "devote his life to putting on a shirt........" and he is still wipping them.

I guess all the people I know that lift weights part time and are stronger than a 275 for 8, are just genetic fast twitch freaks Come on man, you dont have to devote your life to the bench press to be stronger than that.

Thread remains

[kethnaab]

it is a testament to the fragile egos all over the world that anytime someone does something like this and posts a video, a bunch of schleps gotta flame the guy.

Good job to the dude, and yes, JDR13, he IS strong, whether your ego can admit to it or not.

[The_Brawler]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

And still Larry Allen probably can jump higher than 80% of this forum....

And for sure is quicker over short distances than most of it also.

Larry Allern is 555X the athlete say...Gene Rychlak is and that is a fact.

Face it 95% of our fast twitch freaks are in the NFL here in America...if they wanted to devote their lives to slapping a benchshirt on, arching a gut up, and moving a bar 4 inchs for 5K bucks 3 times a year theyd own almost every record out there.

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ITS ENOUGH. You;ve exagerated the NFL teams enough. I dont know what your motive is but you keep talking about these NFL players like all of them could become worlds strongest man. Get A Gripl on reality.

[gjohnson5]

Nice!

[JDR13]

Originally Posted by kethnaab

it is a testament to the fragile egos all over the world that anytime someone does something like this and posts a video, a bunch of schleps gotta flame the guy.

Good job to the dude, and yes, JDR13, he IS strong, whether your ego can admit to it or not.

Hey assclown, nobody is flaming anyone here except you. I didn't say what he did wasn't impressive, just that it doesn't make him terribly strong. If you take a good look at the guy, it's obvious that he weighs at least 245-250. So he's not even benching his bodyweight. It is impressive from an endurance standpoint, not a strength one.

[Bodysteele]

Originally Posted by The_Brawler

ITS ENOUGH. You;ve exagerated the NFL teams enough. I dont know what your motive is but you keep talking about these NFL players like all of them could become worlds strongest man. Get A Gripl on reality.

Reality?

Do you think Mariusz has better genetics than Ogden or Allen for power?

Wow, strange reality.

[Kiknskreem]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

In fact STRENGTH is hardly useful at all in football or most sports...for the most part it is EXPLOSIVE power that is useful.

Explosive strength is rooted in absolute strength, the two are intimately related.

DOH!

[Kiknskreem]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

Reality?

Do you think Mariusz has better genetics than Ogden or Allen for power?

Wow, strange reality.

Strange reality?

A strange reality is that you are able to look into someone's GENOTYPE through a TV or your computer.

All you see are the effects of the training each has pursued over a career and their visibly outward PHENOTYPE.

You don't know sh*t about what their genetic potentials actually are.

[Doc Iron]

Folks,

Here are a couple of "facts" for y'all to consider:

1) Benching 225 for 42 reps is impressive, even if they're not properly locked out. This fellow is obviously a strong guy. My one rep max on the bench is 385 and I've never hit more than 20 reps of 225.

2) It's hardly a "record". Ronnie Coleman pumped out over 60 reps of 225 at the Olympia a few years ago to beat a guy named Jimmy "Iron Bull" Pellechia who had "challenged" anyone to better his 50-some-odd reps with 225. This was Ronnie in contest shape (i.e. NOT at his strongest).

3) Is bench press a good measure of strength for an NFLer? The truth lies someplace in the middle (between "absolutely not" and "for sure"). It's certainly not the be all, end all. An NFLer must have explosive strength, good core strength, and good leg power. A guy who benches 500 but can't squat much more, or even a guy who benches 500 and squats 800 but is fat and slow won't be a good NFL player. That said, having a big bench means one has a lot of upper body strength. That certainly IS important to playing in the NFL. If you're interested in this issue go on Jesse Marunde's website and read the discussions there (several high level college players and football strength coaches talked about this). You'll learn a lot about how certain lifts (including the bench press) translate to performance on the field.

[strongLIKEbull<]

dude could've hit 50 reps

He is strong, that equates to over a 500lb raw bench easily....


who was it who said he wasnt strong? hmm, i doubt you'll ever get past 440lbs whoever said that remark.

[The_Brawler]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

Reality?

Do you think Mariusz has better genetics than Ogden or Allen for power?

Wow, strange reality.

I dont know who has better genetics. And you dont know aswell. All we know is what they are at the present time. And at the present time Mariusz is Stronger physically than the 2 ppl you mentioned.

[magicman531]

Originally Posted by strongLIKEbull<

dude could've hit 50 reps

He is strong, that equates to over a 500lb raw bench easily....

That is a ridiculous thing to say... There comes a point when you're working endurance more than max strength. I'd say 46 reps is past that point. There was a guy who could squat 300 pounds close to 50 times and yet his max was right around 400. Your little formulas stop working in high rep tests...

[JDR13]

Originally Posted by magicman531

That is a ridiculous thing to say... There comes a point when you're working endurance more than max strength. I'd say 46 reps is past that point. There was a guy who could squat 300 pounds close to 50 times and yet his max was right around 400. Your little formulas stop working in high rep tests...

Right on bro.

[eatsleephate]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

blahblahblah jumps high blahblahblah

You, sir, need to shut the **** up about people jumping high. You've drug this into almost every post you make, and while jumping high may be impressive to some who can't get off the ground (say, the 6'0, 316lb club), the vast majority of us don't care. This isn't the NBA, and no one has to be able to dunk in order to substantiate their strength.

[Jorday]

guy said in his comments he has benched 475 x 3 and 500 x 1. his bodyweight was 252 at the time of the video it looks like.

[Sockomalo]

Originally Posted by magicman531

That is a ridiculous thing to say... There comes a point when you're working endurance more than max strength. I'd say 46 reps is past that point. There was a guy who could squat 300 pounds close to 50 times and yet his max was right around 400. Your little formulas stop working in high rep tests...

its not ridiculous, and its true.

[Kiknskreem]

Originally Posted by Sockomalo

its not ridiculous, and its true.

You can't get an accurate gauge on someone's true 1RM of a full ROM lift based on what they can do for 46 partials.... other than to say he's strong.

[theduffman]

Originally Posted by magicman531

That is a ridiculous thing to say... There comes a point when you're working endurance more than max strength. I'd say 46 reps is past that point. There was a guy who could squat 300 pounds close to 50 times and yet his max was right around 400. Your little formulas stop working in high rep tests...

there has never been anyone who could squat 300 50 times and couldn't squat over 400 lol that's bull**** but I do agree with you that if you're doing anything realistically over like 15 reps or so those max calculations lose all accuracy

[breathingmurder]

* holds nose *
nfl players are stinky!1

[ze all knowing]

dudes a big guy, you can tell he's strong like a bull from a mile off

wouldnt suprise me if he put up over 600lbs

[Sockomalo]

Originally Posted by Kiknskreem

You can't get an accurate gauge on someone's true 1RM of a full ROM lift based on what they can do for 46 partials.... other than to say he's strong.

youre missing the point. he estimated that at doing 225 for 46 reps his 1 rep max would be 500 pounds, and the guy said so himself he did 500 for 1 rep.

[ArchDukeOfTops]

Originally Posted by Bodysteele

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In fact STRENGTH is hardly useful at all in football or most sports.

You better let the whole sports world in on your little theory, because anyone who is involved in high level sports seem to think its pretty freakin' important.

You can be strong and explosive by the way.

[everista]

http://www.bench-press.net/article/l...nch-press.html

And I remember it being said that Donovan McNabb, Iggles quarterback, had a 500lb BP, during a game.

So I don't know about shmoes being stronger than guys who have risen through the ranks and are being paid. Though, it is not absolutely necessary to put up outstanding numbers to do certain jobs on the field.

But it would certainly be difficult for weak guys to compete. And some of these guys don't necesarrily have the height or limb length to be very good in certain lifts.

That said, Jamal Lewis and Charlie Garner were benching 400lb RAW in college.

[marco187]

Originally Posted by JDR13

No he's not. Consider that guy obviously weighs way more than 225 himself, give him credit for endurance, not strength.

lets see your vid of 225 for 40+.