pt's Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder review

[pu12en12g]

Summary: I've been looking forward to doing this review since December. Many, many thanks to Omega Sports for their patience... you guys rock. Note: Do a search on my username, and you will see that I have ZERO financial interest or ties to any supplement company.

At first glance, this product may look like a ordinary CEE product. But then you start reading the other ingredients, and wondering what the heck they are and why you haven't heard of them before:

Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL 2,400mg: Self explanatory

Glycerol Monostearate 2000mg: Elevate blood plasma volume, Cell volumization, and more

Glucuronolactone: Improves mental performance, reaction time, concentration and memory. Used as a drug during the Vietnam conflict to supply energy and feelings of well being to soldiers in combat. Theoretically helps prevent insulin-stimulated adipose storage. Glucuronolactone is a naturally occurring metabolite of glucose. Studies show that it provides an immediate energy boost, and can help improve immediate recall and decrease reaction time. It also helps to purge harmful toxins from the body and increase subjective alertness.

Note: Considered one of the keys to the success of Syntrax Swole V2..

Potassium Phosphate 400mg: Works synergistically to aid muscle hydration and nutrient shuttling

Sodium Phosphate 400mg: Enhance endurance and raise aerobic threshold (maximum level of intensity at metabolic efficiency)

Methylxanthines 112mg: Bronchodilator, anti-inflammatory

Niacinamide 80mg: Energy, alertness, metabolism, circulation (synergistic)

Pyrodoxine HCL 8mg: Energy (synergistic)

I will initially be comparing this product to:

- Thermolife Cre2
- EAS Betagen
- Creatine Monohydrate at various dosages
- Creatine Monohydrate + Glycerine
- BSL Kre-alkalyn
- Swole V2
- Celltech

in phase 2, I will be comparing it with:

- Dymatize Xpand
- Nutrabolics AE2
- BN Pure CEE
- BAC Pure CEE
- HP Pure CEE
- Universal Storm

Age: 27

Sex: Male

Height: 6ft

Weight: 220

Bodytype: Classic Ectomorph

Prohormone/Steroid use: None. I did a few clean cycles of 6-OXO, which overwhelmingly is NOT considered a PH/PS/Steroid. The cycles were cut short due to unpleasant side effects around week 2-3.

Training experience: 2.5 years of serious lifting, during which I naturally went from a out-of-shape 175lbs to a leaner 225lbs. I recently cut down to 205lbs (huge mistake) and am currently at a 220-225lb plateau. My lack of appetite has been a serious most recent roadblock.

Current supplements:

• Bulk WPC Protein powder
• Creatine
• Multivitamin
• Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder

Current "Budget" Maintenence Diet:

• 350g + Protein daily
• Lean Beef
• Lean Turkey Breast
• Eggs
• Skim Milk
• Steel cut oats

Present goals: Lean bulk and evaluation / comparison of Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder

Prescription/Recreational drugs: None

Supplement history: I respond fairly well to creatine monohydrate, and in the past I have tried Swole V2, Kre-alkalyn and many other creatine products.

I respond very well to Cell Volumizers, and in the past I have used NOS XXX, Extreme NOS Precursor, L-Arginine powder, L-Arginine Pyroglutamate Powder, L-Citrulline Powder, Ergopharm Stamino2, Carnosine, Glycerine, Ribose, Taurine, Twinlab Male Fuel, Syntrax Nitrous

I respond fairly well to stimulants/thermogenics, and in the past I have used Powertrain, ECY Stack, Tyrosine, Green Tea Extract, Nicotine 1mg Gum, Caffeine, EPH 833, EPH 1000, Ripped Fuel, Y-HCL on it's own.

Other product reviews I have done:


Ergopharm - Stamino2:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=312317
Get Diesel Nutrition - Extreme NOS Precursor:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=126544
Get Diesel Nutrition - NOS XXX
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=250500
Syntrax Nectar - Fuzzy Navel:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=193296
Syntrax Nectar - Roadside Lemonade:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=238720
Syntrax Nectar - Apple Ecstacy:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=361156
Syntrax Nectar - Crystal Sky:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=411108
Syntrax - Isomatrix Reloaded
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=221589
Syntrax - Swole V2
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=186636
Molecular Nutrition - Whey Fruity
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=191283
Optimum Nutrition 100% - Vanilla:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=187168
Legal Gear - Dermasize:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=321968
Black Star Labs - NitroJet:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=361161
Myochem - Throttle 1400x:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=375899
Get Diesel Nutrition - READY4WAR:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=383124
All The Whey - Orange:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=391929
All The Whey - Chocolate
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=392778
All The Whey - Vanilla
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4778188
All The Whey - Banana
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407583
KAL Fishoil:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=383827
NOW Glycerine:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581
Get Diesel Nutrition - Diesel Fuel:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4727305
Optimum Nutrition - Superior Amino 2222:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=400407
Optimum Nutrition - Anabolic Milk Protein:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4781059
Primaforce - Substance WPI - Grape:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4819837
Dymatize - Elite Whey
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=191180
Dymatize - Orange Dreamsicle:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=407697
Cytosport - Cytogainer - Cookies n Cream:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4847639
Universal - Animal NitroG:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=4848839
Instone - Smooth Chocolate:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=411860
Optimum Nutrition - Vanilla Ice Cream:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=411871

[Sixpack]

Looking forward to it bro good luck

[sculli]

I'm looking forward to this review also. Hope you like it as much as I do.

[matpal]

Sweet sassy molassy, I am looking forward to your log! You, Swastea, and Proverbs keep the most detailed logs I have seen; it mkaes it extremely helpful when evaluating a product.

I am extremely intersted to see how you think Thunder stacks up against the other, better known (more marketing) supplements.

Also, what exactly is Phase 2?

[pu12en12g]

Also, what exactly is Phase 2?

In phase 2, I will come back and update the log with how those other products I listed...

- Dymatize Xpand
- Nutrabolics AE2
- BN Pure CEE
- BAC Pure CEE
- HP Pure CEE
- Universal Storm

.. stack up against "Thunder" (since I haven't taken them yet [I wanted to start this review ASAP]).

[sculli]

It says your taking creatine here. What kind of creatine? And when do you take it?

Current supplements:

* Bulk WPC Protein powder
* Creatine
* Multivitamin
* Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder

[pu12en12g]

It says your taking creatine here. What kind of creatine? And when do you take it?

Current supplements:

* Bulk WPC Protein powder
* Creatine
* Multivitamin
* Omega Sports Cre-Ethyl Thunder

Good question. For the first few days to maintain the status quo, I will simply add Thunder pre-workout to give a review of what the difference is over and above creatine mono. After making this evaluation, I will see if Matpal want's me to drop the creatine mono. The alternative would be to drop one product just as I add another, which would skew the results.

[matpal]

Nah, you can keep the mono if you want to. I trust in your judgement that you can tell the difference between the two. Plus, as you said, I do not want the Thunder to fill a hole so to speak. We want to see what it can do independantly.

[pu12en12g]

Initial impressions: I'm gonna like this stuff .

Very, very thirsty during and post-workout. Slight dull headache postworkout (not enough post-workout water (?). Definately gave me temporarily enhanced vascularity and pumps, similar to my cell volumizing homebrew (Creatine / ALA / Glycerine / Vitamin C / Taurine). Can't comment on muscle soreness, recovery, or "feeling of well being" yet.

[avian]

Wherent you one of the ETHER testers?

[pu12en12g]

Wherent you one of the ETHER testers?

Yeah.. until Chuck had some delivery problems (no hard feelings):

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...=400351&page=3

[G.W. Hayduke]

Thunder is the ONLY CEE product that ever caught my interest. I may actually buy this. Depending on your log of course.

[Pioneer]

subscribed, keep this updated.

[matpal]

Thunder is the ONLY CEE product that ever caught my interest. I may actually buy this. Depending on your log of course.

Pressure's on, PT.

[larmenta]

GOOOD LUCK.. I am sure this will be a very detailed log.

[agpetz]

subscribed

[matpal]

Well it looks like the product description is finally corrected in the cyber store. Yippee.

[Colinballin23]

looks like an interesting review I'm interested to see how it plays out as PT always gives good, thoughtful, honest reviews.

[tweaked17]

subscribed

*waits anxiously for day 2*

[size]

Best of luck. Omega Sports is great quality, and I really like the fact that this product contains useful ingredients at good dosages.

[bluehazard]

You're going to love this stuff.

[LostProphet]

*Subscribes*

Interested in giving this a try, looking forward to your feedback pu12en12g.

[pu12en12g]

Day 2:

8 Pills on a partially empty stomach, about 40 mins preworkout. No headache this time, but still got a "pressure" feeling, as if I was really pissed off or something (but I wasn't). It didn't get worse during the workout tho, and wasn't painful, more like a dull, noticable ache.

Reps up easily by 2 across the board, although I forgot my workout log @ work. Traps feel amazing... it feels unreal. Muscle "peak" and vascularity both noticable. Forearm pump is simply insane. The pumps last for several hours post-workout. Sleep seemed better / deeper (?) than normal. I'll see if that continues.

Day 3:

8 Pills on a partially empty stomach, about 30 mins preworkout. No headache. Keeping carb intake about the same, but I'm tempted to increase them The pumps are MUCH better than I expected, but my focus is on strength / size gains. The more water / liquids DURING the workout, the better, that much is obvious. My calves got pumped up simply by walking to the gym. on higher reps (8+), the pumps are borderline painful. It would be interesting to see what cardio is like with a 1/2 dosage.

[Sixpack]

Great log bro looking forward to it

[matpal]

PT-

About how many carbs are you getting a day? I saw you're taking about 350 grams of protein, but did not catch if you do moderate carbs or what...

We can have you blowing up from too much pumop now.

[pu12en12g]

PT-

About how many carbs are you getting a day? I saw you're taking about 350 grams of protein, but did not catch if you do moderate carbs or what...

We can have you blowing up from too much pumop now.

This is fairly average:

<img src="http://technologyorgasm.com/upload/breakdown.jpg">

Daily Constants (majority of daily calories, making daily totals more consistent):

Steel Cut Oats______Cals:2400__Fat:32__Carbs:400__Protein:64
1 Gallon Milk________Cals:1760__Fat:40__Carbs:208__Protein: 128
Optimum 100% Whey Cals:660___Fat:9___Carbs:18___Protein:138
Bread, whole wheat__Cals:472___Fat:8___Carbs:89___Protein:19
Macaroni salad______Cals:269___Fat:9___Carbs:43___Protein:6

Yogurt
Turkey Breast (oven roasted)
Chicken Breast (oven roasted deluxe)
Cheese, American, Cheddar, Swiss

Typical Grocery List:

- Steel Cut oats 5lbs
- 5 Gallons of skim milk
- 6 lbs Lean Ground Beef
- Frozen boneless Chicken breast (Lemon pepper)
- 5 Cheap supreme pizzas
- 3 Cheap mexican pizzas
- 10 32oz Dupont Lowfat Yogurts
- 20 cans of Tuna
- 2 lbs 99% fat free turkey breast
- 1 lbs Lean Honey Ham
- Cottage Cheese
- 2 Whole Grain Wheat Breads
- 1 Tomato
- 1 Mixed Sprouts
- Swiss and American cheese
- Potato salad
- Macaroni salad
- Tuna Helper
- Hamburger Helper
- Italian Meatballs
- Pasta
- Pasta Sauce
- Manwich (Sloppy Joe mix)
- Celery
- Mrs dash seasoning
- 1 dozen eggs

[Sixpack]

Damn bro that is average lol , how much you weigh now? Damn thats nuts 600 carbs lol grow bro grow

[matpal]

Look at you gettin all technical.

Curious-where do you buy your oats at? No stores near me have what I am looking for.

[Sixpack]

I order mine online here mat www.bobsredmill.com

[antihero]

/subscribes/

this is something i am going to watch closely, i intend to get some, but i would like some opinions on it first. this should help me make my decision....