Ok, so I was browsing am , and here is what happened to custom's Synephrine HCL powder :
"Anywho, just heard from my boys over at the FDA, and they struck again!! Guess what is now considered a drug and not allowed for sale? THe answer: Synephrine HCL.
They have been holding this for almost three months now, trying to "decide" if it was a drug or not. In the meantime, I have sent them stacks of paperwork showing how it complies with DSHEA, mountains of other products containing it, and even went so far alter the intended use and declare it was for a cosmetic product. No dice. And then I get a call from some compliance officer who tells me that they do not have the resources "to go after everybody" but they can halt mom and pops from starting up! Then, in not so many words, he goes on to say the entire market would be shut down if it were up to him. Jerk.
So I asked about he cosmetic use, and he still says nope, its a drug. He said he based the decision on the product's intended name!! So I asked if he was going to be calling Avon and telling them all of their anti-cellulite creams are illegal. The A-hole said that want his problem.
I absolutly give up. The FDA is absolutly a bunch of kick-back loving hypocrite nazis. Serenity now!
That feels a lil better.."
DAmm , how could they do that? Some people said that the fda backed out on regulating it, but that is completely flase, now it is banned !
02-17-2005, 01:21 PM #1
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CAUTION : Synephrine HCL banned by the FDA- must read!
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02-17-2005, 01:26 PM #3
I just scoped the FDA website and did not see any information.I am Adam, Prince of Eternia, defender of the secrets of Castle Greyskull. This is Cringer, my fearless friend. Fabulous secret powers were revealed to me the day I held aloft my magic sword and said: "By the power of Greyskull, I have the power!" Cringer became the mighty Battle Cat, and I became He-Man, the most powerful man in the universe.
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02-17-2005, 01:28 PM #4
Lets not all act so surprised. You and I both know that we will be left with nothing more than food, a minimal vitamin and perhaps protein powder when the year or 2 are over.
They want the obese to get thin and then they take everything away to help. What they don't want you to know is that we are worth so much more to them fat and unhealthy than we are fit and active.
Fat + Unhealthy = Drug companies & Doctors making $$$
Fit and Healthy = us living lives free of crap like this.
I fuking hate this government and there is nothing we can do about it. Why don't you concentrate on bigger issues you stupid redneck fukk. Medicare? Homeless? Education? Security? No wait your priority is Synephrine and Creatine.
**** you bush.
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02-17-2005, 01:43 PM #6Originally Posted by Newport SurferYou are not a beautiful or unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else.
We are all part of the same compost heap. Tyler
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02-17-2005, 02:01 PM #8Originally Posted by sawasteaVeni, vidi, vici.
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02-18-2005, 08:37 AM #12Originally Posted by sicosico
was this an FDA agent associated with customs importation? were you trying to get some synephrine into the country?
the FDA agents at the border do this all the time. it does not mean it is banned at all. they just are very arbitrary and do whatever they please and purposely try to screw supplement companies importing things that they believe are controversial
not much you can do about it either. you are at their mercy
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02-18-2005, 08:43 AM #14Originally Posted by Popkorn playa
yes. hillary and her democrats are responsible for every bad piece of legislation and deleterious administrative decision that has been made in the past 13 years.
Hell even before that. She has special evil powers that exerted their influence even when she was just a schoolgirl
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It doesn't even agonize the same class of adrenoreceptors.
Indiscriminate beta adrenergic agonist & SNS-stimulating sympathomimetic vs. alpha1 adrenergic agonist = massive difference in effect.It seems these poets have nothing up their ample sleeves...
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02-18-2005, 11:51 AM #19Originally Posted by Popkorn playa
Bush is a dumbass, and a puppet. But you're correct, as far as the recent supplement bans and violations of our rights go, both parties are at fault. It's all about the Benjamins, and as long as the wealthiest 1% of our country owns over half of our country's wealth, they will also be the ones who make decisions. Big pharms. and the current medical establishment are far more interested in lining their pockets than they are about the health of the nation as a whole.
10-10-2005, 08:14 AM #20Originally Posted by Popkorn playa
prove that hillary clinton started thw war on supplements. It was in fact during bill clinton's administration that DSHEA was signed (1994), and DSHEA is what pretty much DEregulated the industry and allowed it to flourish the way it does today
OTOH, George Sr. was the president that signed the anabolic steroid control act of 1990, which made them controlled substances.
so if you want to make this a bush versus clinton or dem vs. repub issue it looks to me the dems are winning
seriously though, most of this is non partisan, so no such arguments are worthwhile
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10-10-2005, 12:10 PM #30Originally Posted by kris4153
But as much as I hate him I agree he isn't to blame.
I thought the issue of synephrine was more of a state government issue for California.
For some reason the Democrates here have a hard-on to ban synephrine, DHEA, and something else I can't remember. The Governator (I hate his guts too) has been trying to stall these state bans and got a lot of flak for it.