 |
08-13-2007, 05:18 AM
|
#1
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2007
Age: 21
Stats: 5'9", 158 lbs
Posts: 175
BodyPoints: 6681
|
Inner Pecs
I wanna hit mine innere chest which one is better Cable cross over or Butterfly.
__________________
I feel like to get squats patent.
|
|
|
|
08-13-2007, 05:24 AM
|
#2
|
|
The Search Nazi
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 259
|
IMO, cable crossovers - there's constant tension with cables, whereas with flyes, there's little tension at the top portion of the movement.
But don't stick with one, mix it up every so often
__________________
If you're growing, you're training/eating properly.
If you aren't growing, then you aren't doing the above 2 properly.
"too much thinking. grab weight and just f**king lift." $AJ answering question about position of shoulders during shoulder presses :D
|
|
|
|
|
08-13-2007, 06:24 AM
|
#3
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Fuerth, Hessen, Germany
Age: 36
Stats: 5'10", 182 lbs
Posts: 2,727
BodyPoints: 40206
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilLion
IMO, cable crossovers - there's constant tension with cables, whereas with flyes, there's little tension at the top portion of the movement.
But don't stick with one, mix it up every so often
|
Absolutely agree!
__________________
If you love eating - you better love workin out
Otherwise: Lean back while getting fat
So everybody has his choice
"Eat better - Live healthier - Workout smarter"
Knackbobbes
|
|
|
|
|
08-13-2007, 06:35 AM
|
#4
|
|
505 External Server Suces
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Age: 20
Stats: 5'10", 154 lbs
Posts: 7,739
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 14299
|
He never said anything about flyes.
machine butterflyes (or pec dec) will give you the same workout as crossover cables.
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 06:56 AM
|
#5
|
|
The Search Nazi
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 259
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by kyokushin1
He never said anything about flyes.
machine butterflyes (or pec dec) will give you the same workout as crossover cables.
|
My bad, got confused 
__________________
If you're growing, you're training/eating properly.
If you aren't growing, then you aren't doing the above 2 properly.
"too much thinking. grab weight and just f**king lift." $AJ answering question about position of shoulders during shoulder presses :D
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 07:25 AM
|
#6
|
|
Smolov kicked my a$$
Join Date: Feb 2007
Stats: 6'2", 215 lbs
Posts: 2,374
BodyPoints: 14925
|
I read some Ahnuld tips:
Cable crossovers- squeeze hard at the end
DB Flyes- same, squeeze hard 2-3 seconds at end
Presses- closer grip, keep elbows out and away from body
Hope that helps.
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 08:50 AM
|
#7
|
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2007
Age: 22
Posts: 8
|
It's too bad there's no such thing as "inner" pecs... and no you can't isolate "inner" pecs. They contract as a whole.
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 08:54 AM
|
#8
|
|
Insert custom user title
Join Date: Feb 2007
Age: 25
Posts: 3,519
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 11946
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by amarkham
It's too bad there's no such thing as "inner" pecs... and no you can't isolate "inner" pecs. They contract as a whole.
|
yup - x2
__________________
** I rep back **
Xmas shopping list: Biotivia's Bioforge, AI's Maniac and uh, not sure what else
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 09:07 AM
|
#9
|
|
DYSFUNCTIONAL strength
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: United States
Age: 25
Stats: 5'11", 181 lbs
Posts: 13,019
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 41403
|
thank GOD this thread got bumped.
__________________
If what I see does not amaze me, I am not looking hard enough.
The more you learn, the more you realize you don't know.
__________________
My Powerlifting Journal: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?p=189654831
My YouTube Vids: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ajcharmoz
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 09:55 AM
|
#10
|
|
FEEL THE BURN!!!
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skokie, Illinois, United States
Stats: 6'2", 191 lbs
Posts: 650
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 1837
|
CGBP. Flare ur elbows outwards
__________________
"The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was asked about the things most likely to bring people into the Garden. He said, 'Fearful awareness of Allah and good character.' He was asked about the things most likely to bring people into the Fire. He said, 'The mouth and the genitals.'"
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 10:07 AM
|
#11
|
|
Reality Testing
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 8,935
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 10424
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilLion
there's constant tension with cables
|
Why would constant tension work the inner pecs more?
__________________
No sir, I don't like it.
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 10:34 AM
|
#12
|
|
I Am Teh Lolrus
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Texas: swimming in a way that you can't detect...
Age: 21
Stats: 5'5", 231 lbs
Posts: 39,850
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 47972
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Horse
Why would constant tension work the inner pecs more?
|
I think he was just comparing DB Flyes to crossovers. With regular DB Flyes the tension comes off the pecs a lot when you near to top portion of the lift.
__________________
"...that's the great virtue of the free market, of the private market. It enables people...who hate one another...who don't speak the same language...who would fight one another if they had the chance, to cooperate economically. We were able to deal with China when China was a communist state. Even though we thought that that was a terrible arrangement, we could still cooperate. And that's what markets enable people to do. They bring freedom with them."
- Milton Friedman
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 10:39 AM
|
#13
|
|
Reality Testing
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 8,935
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 10424
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth_swimmer
I think he was just comparing DB Flyes to crossovers. With regular DB Flyes the tension comes off the pecs a lot when you near to top portion of the lift.
|
No, he was recommending the exercise for inner pecs because it maintains tension. Hence my question.
__________________
No sir, I don't like it.
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 10:41 AM
|
#14
|
|
Ron Livingston on Roids
Join Date: May 2006
Age: 29
Stats: 5'8", 215 lbs
Posts: 21,210
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 38230
|
people that think you can't work inner pecs = dumb
__________________
What's really really really sad, is that the answers are already right there.
For a HUGE majority of people...
start on a full body 3x per week, add body part volume while reducing body part frequency as you progress. It's that friggin simple. It isn't "1 bodypart every 2 weeks for 70 sets" OR "Soviet/Bulgarian each bp 10x per week using 1 exercise each". There are middle grounds.
-D1
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 10:48 AM
|
#15
|
|
Free teh ranters
Join Date: Oct 2005
Age: 28
Stats: 193 lbs
Posts: 6,990
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 19761
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick
people that think you can't work inner pecs = dumb
|
Didnt you hear there is no inner pec... it's like the F'in tooth fairy of BBing!!! 
__________________
Secretary of Defense/Neeging, SRCSG (Squat Rack Curlers Support Group)
"I feel like to get squats patent." - redbullzeye
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 10:53 AM
|
#16
|
|
Ron Livingston on Roids
Join Date: May 2006
Age: 29
Stats: 5'8", 215 lbs
Posts: 21,210
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 38230
|
*puts Nitro's head in between pecs* (no homo)
*squish* (like grape)
__________________
What's really really really sad, is that the answers are already right there.
For a HUGE majority of people...
start on a full body 3x per week, add body part volume while reducing body part frequency as you progress. It's that friggin simple. It isn't "1 bodypart every 2 weeks for 70 sets" OR "Soviet/Bulgarian each bp 10x per week using 1 exercise each". There are middle grounds.
-D1
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 11:53 AM
|
#17
|
|
Bulk it and HULK it
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: New York, New York, United States
Age: 43
Stats: 6'1", 220 lbs
Posts: 3,776
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 36619
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThickAsABrick
*puts Nitro's head in between pecs* (no homo)
*squish* (like grape)
|
LMAO
__________________
Keep on hulkin'.
I won't quit till no shirt will fit.
|
|
|
|
|
08-16-2007, 02:03 PM
|
#18
|
|
Milk does a body good.
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,710
BodyBlog Entries: 0
BodyPoints: 2123
|
Work the upper and lower hard and eat/sleep right and you should develop the 'line' im assuming your wanting. Genetics does play a role in how much gap there is between the right and left but even the widest gaps can be closed with enough hard work.
Good luck!
__________________
Muscles do not understand numbers. Muscles know only force and tension. How you invoke force and tension is your choice.
Palestinian looking out for his brothers the Israelis. If only more felt this way everybody could ascend.
|
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Display Modes |
Rate This Thread |
 Linear Mode
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Member Login
Sign in for more FREE features and tools!
|
|
