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01-05-2008, 08:25 AM
#3271
Losing to Genetics
just clarifying, sex before marriage is haraam right?
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01-05-2008, 10:21 AM
#3272
Retired
Originally Posted by paki123
just clarifying, sex before marriage is haraam right?
Yes, it is a major sin
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01-05-2008, 10:48 AM
#3273
gigglefart
Do you guys (gals) eat turkey bacon?
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01-05-2008, 11:27 AM
#3274
Registered User
adding this to my reply in #3273
that is their website and ideas
http://www.ahl-alquran.com/arabic/terms.php
there is english also above
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01-05-2008, 12:49 PM
#3275
God is Greater
Originally Posted by kabtq9s
Salam Alikom
Tayeb, another Question
What about Ahulu Sunnah Wa Al Jama'ah ?
and How should we view these scholars: Bin Baz, Albani, Ibn Taymiyah, Ibn Qayyim, and AbdulWahaab ?
salam alikom
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/misc/ahlsunna.htm
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Barak Allah Feekum
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01-05-2008, 12:51 PM
#3276
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Amu
As-salaam wa alaykum,
Did the Prophet (pbuh) mention how long the period without an Islamic state would be?
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
No he (pbuh) did not.
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Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
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01-05-2008, 01:02 PM
#3277
God is Greater
Originally Posted by paki123
just clarifying, sex before marriage is haraam right?
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
It is one of the major sins and one for which God has specifically detailed a punishment in Hell.
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/zina.html
The Prophet (pbuh) asked when he was shown some of the inhabitants of Hell, "Who is this?" The angels said, "Go on," and we went on until we came upon a hole like an oven. Its top was narrow and its bottom wide, and there was a fire kindled under it. When the flames flared up, the people were lifted until they were almost out and when it subsided, they returned into it. It contained naked men and women. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Who is this?" The angels replied "Those you saw in the hole are the fornicators".
As for kissing, touching, making-out, being alone with in the same room, or even talking unnecessarily to a person of the opposite sex to whom you're not married, then this is also a grave sin, but not as major as fornication:
http://www.islamtoday.com/showme.cfm...sub_cat_id=594
http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/Dis...ng=eng&ID=1526
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
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01-05-2008, 01:12 PM
#3278
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Mohd. Tarkan
Salam Alikom
what do u think of the people who take islam only from the quran not from the hadtih and they are called Quanien (قرانيون). They calm that hadtih has alot of mistakes and make a bad image about Prophet (pbuh)
thx alot in advance
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
They are considered people of innovation and have disbelieved in significant portions of what God has revealed. Their Islamic belief and practice is deficient and their action can be indeed punished with Hellfire. What they don't realize is that they have fallen prey to a common tactic used by Orientalists against Muslims - the proof of the preservation of the Qur'an lies in the science of textual transmission and authentic hadiths. Whoever rejects authentic hadiths has rejected the preservation of the Qur'an itself.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...0&postcount=45
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=1846&CATE=120
http://www.livingislam.org/ps1-3_e.html
http://www.myislamweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13232
http://www.answering-christianity.co..._quranists.htm
The History of the Qur?anic Text from Revelation to Compilation
What is textual authentication all about?
Link 2
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W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
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01-05-2008, 01:15 PM
#3279
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Dreamscapes
Do you guys (gals) eat turkey bacon?
The way in which a permissible type of meat (Turkey) is sliced doesn't affect whether it is permissible to eat.
Turkey bacon is permissible to eat as long as it does not contain the meat of swine or any other impermissible animal, and that the Turkey was slaughtered in the correct Islamic fashion, and in the name of God.
http://www.tahara.ca/products.html
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01-05-2008, 01:28 PM
#3280
Losing to Genetics
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
It is one of the major sins and one for which God has specifically detailed a punishment in Hell.
http://www.themodernreligion.com/misc/hh/zina.html
The Prophet (pbuh) asked when he was shown some of the inhabitants of Hell, "Who is this?" The angels said, "Go on," and we went on until we came upon a hole like an oven. Its top was narrow and its bottom wide, and there was a fire kindled under it. When the flames flared up, the people were lifted until they were almost out and when it subsided, they returned into it. It contained naked men and women. The Prophet (pbuh) said, "Who is this?" The angels replied "Those you saw in the hole are the fornicators".
As for kissing, touching, making-out, being alone with in the same room, or even talking unnecessarily to a person of the opposite sex to whom you're not married, then this is also a grave sin, but not as major as fornication:
http://www.islamtoday.com/showme.cfm...sub_cat_id=594
http://hadith.al-islam.com/bayan/Dis...ng=eng&ID=1526
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
so its haraam for even that? wow
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01-05-2008, 01:48 PM
#3281
Protein Hacker
Originally Posted by paki123
so its haraam for even that? wow
Of course brother That is why IMO one should get married as soon as you get a stable job, when living in a Western country. I feel your pain.
Because if it were easy, I wouldn't be interested.
God has a better plan for my life, than I do, for my own.
Go, weave your snares with logic and design. The speed of my flight will take your breath away. - Mirza Ghalib
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01-05-2008, 02:15 PM
#3282
gigglefart
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
The way in which a permissible type of meat (Turkey) is sliced doesn't affect whether it is permissible to eat.
Turkey bacon is permissible to eat as long as it does not contain the meat of swine or any other impermissible animal, and that the Turkey was slaughtered in the correct Islamic fashion, and in the name of God.
Ah. I saw some @ the store this afternoon and had never even thought to ask.
I don't expect you to find me links, I'll research it for myself (the correct fashion).
Doesn't that limit your ability to eat at many places? i.e. making sure the meat was slaughtered correctly?
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01-05-2008, 04:02 PM
#3283
Retired
As-salaam wa alaykum,
Where can I see dialogue between you and non-Muslims regarding the Qur'anic challenge?
The thread you created regarding that topic is basically filled with The Cleric and others bashing Islam and your responses to them.
Do you see what I mean?
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01-05-2008, 05:03 PM
#3284
Registered User
Is it considered nobler to wear the burqa over the standard hijab model?
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01-05-2008, 05:44 PM
#3285
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Beatitude
Is it considered nobler to wear the burqa over the standard hijab model?
If a person has the correct intention, sure. It is not inherently more noble to put yourself under more duress than God recommends.
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01-05-2008, 05:48 PM
#3286
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Dreamscapes
Ah. I saw some @ the store this afternoon and had never even thought to ask.
I don't expect you to find me links, I'll research it for myself (the correct fashion).
Doesn't that limit your ability to eat at many places? i.e. making sure the meat was slaughtered correctly?
Well you have to always make sure that what you are eating is permissible. That means
1) Making sure that your food doesn't contain impermissible meats or substances (alcohol).
2) Making sure that your food didn't come in contact with the above.
Usually a Muslim will order seafood if they can't ensure the above.
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01-05-2008, 05:50 PM
#3287
Registered User
Is eye contact beyond the initial contact between the opposite sexes allowed? I was talking to this married muslim lady at my work and she kept eye contact with me and I was under the impression that that wasn't allowed.
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01-05-2008, 06:00 PM
#3288
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Beatitude
Is eye contact beyond the initial contact between the opposite sexes allowed? I was talking to this married muslim lady at my work and she kept eye contact with me and I was under the impression that that wasn't allowed.
Are you trying to seduce Muslim women?
This article answers your question:
http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...=4771&CATE=143
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Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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01-05-2008, 06:03 PM
#3289
Registered User
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
Are you trying to seduce Muslim women?
lol no
Thanks.
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01-05-2008, 06:06 PM
#3290
God is Greater
Originally Posted by Beatitude
I trust you. That's why I closed the can of Jihad I was halfway done opening on you.
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Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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01-05-2008, 06:09 PM
#3291
Registered User
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
I trust you. That's why I closed the can of Jihad I was halfway done opening on you.
You are very kind.
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01-05-2008, 08:02 PM
#3292
Protein Hacker
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
I trust you. That's why I closed the can of Jihad I was halfway done opening on you.
lol
Because if it were easy, I wouldn't be interested.
God has a better plan for my life, than I do, for my own.
Go, weave your snares with logic and design. The speed of my flight will take your breath away. - Mirza Ghalib
=== 228 Crew ===
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01-06-2008, 01:46 AM
#3293
Rafidhi (رافضي)
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
... It is not inherently more noble to put yourself under more duress than God recommends.
Very important point.
And they [the inmates of hell] shall say: "What is the matter with us that we do not see men whom we used to count among the wicked? Did we take them (wrongly) for a laughing-stock, or have our eyes missed them?" Surely, this is the truth - the disputing together of the dwellers in the Fire.
(38:62-64)
"The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum."
Noam Chomsky
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01-06-2008, 04:45 AM
#3294
eating pudding...
Hey guys! how's everyone doing? Been a while since I've posted but it's hard when you're traveling lol. I've been using my time to do a lot of reading recently and I've got a few questions.
Basically, I've finished reading the Qur'an, been reading some books on the history of christianity, Buddhism and I'm currently looking into Hinduism.
The strange thing is, that while I accept the Qur'an to be the truth, I find it hard to understand how it ties in with Hinduism. Simply put, I've been reading 'Autobiography of a Yogi' (which I brought up in a post a while ago but didn't know as much about it as I do now) and I'm trying to understand how it ties in with Islam. What I find puzzling is the miracles which the yogi has witnessed from his gurus.. things such as manifesting objects from nothing, reading other people's thoughts, manifesting another body on the other side of the globe, the list goes on.. What's interesting though is that these yogis don't appear to disobey any of the instructions of the Qur'an. In fact, several times Jesus is mentioned as having practiced the same form of meditation (kriya yoga) and several passages from the bible are quoted by the yogis in reference to some of the miracles the yogis have performed.
What's interesting actually is that they seem to spend most of their time in meditation - similar to what Muhammad did? But the thing I don't understand is their concept of God. The autobiography talks about different 'aspects of God'.. something I've never heard discussed in Islam.
Anyway I haven't finished the book yet, but I've just got so many questions about how it relates to Islam and was just curious if anyone can shed any light on this?
Thanks
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01-06-2008, 06:08 PM
#3295
God is Greater
Originally Posted by SteR-
Anyway I haven't finished the book yet, but I've just got so many questions about how it relates to Islam and was just curious if anyone can shed any light on this?
Thanks 
You have to ask yourself a few questions.
What is your objective in choosing a religion anyway? Are you looking for a religion which is revealed by God and which outlines the reality of this life, God, and the Hereafter? Or are you looking for a lifestyle that involves some form of worship to occupy your time until you actually meet the reality which you had otherwise ignored?
At a basic level, all purported religions are similar. They all tell you to worship SOMEthing in SOME way, and to do things which they call "good" and to avoid things which they call "evil". But how useful are any of these definitions unless you are sure they come from God? Would it please you if I made up a religion for you to follow that you enjoyed? I could custom-make it to fit perfectly into your lifestyle and ideals and expectations of a religion. But is this really why humans seek religion? Is it to submit to their own opinions or the opinions of others like them?
Why should Hinduism necessarily relate to Islam? Just because two religions tell you to meditate does not mean they are similar. That is a superficial way to compare religions. How you worship, what you are saying, and what you are worshipping makes all the difference. More importantly, the source of these details is what truly distinguishes something from being a true and fulfilling religion from one that is an innovated fabrication that will waste a person's time and leave them ultimately bankrupt.
You have to return to the basics. You can't compare the merits of religions just by observing the branches because the branches look similar; you have to focus on their roots. WHERE do they come from? WHAT makes them true? HOW do you know they are revealed by God? HOW do you know they are reliably preserved from adulteration since that time?
In the words of one Muslim scholar:
In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,
A man-made philosophy can never match an iota of the goodness of the Divinely-revealed true Religion much less be superior to it, and all the sadhus (Hindu ascetics) and gurus (Hindu spiritual guides) of humankind put together cannot match an iota of the goodness of a single Divinely-appointed prophet.
Further, of all the historical dispensations of the true Religion, Islam alone holds true until the end of time while all others are abrogated and no longer efficacious as spiritual paths, nor incorrupt as Divine Self-disclosures. Hence the Prophet Muhammad, upon him blessings and peace, alone is to be followed until the end of time while all the others came and went; and he alone is to be universally followed while they came only for their own people including Jesus who came only for the Israelites.
Hence Judaism, Christianity, Vedantism (a sect of Hinduism), any and all other purported paths of enlightenment and religious laws can no longer help the spiritual wayfarer to reach the supreme good ? which is knowledge of God ? except insofar as a terminally-stationary plane can help the traveller fly to his destination: he is inside the plane, the plane is thought by those in it to be fuelled and ready, but it no longer takes off and never will again.
http://www.livingislam.org/n/bge_e.html
Is being a "good" person, enough?
Grace vs. Deeds
The enormity of rejecting Truth
How seriously should I take God's plan?
Are my deeds enough to take me to Paradise? Can I disbelieve in anything God has revealed to mankind and still succeed?
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1514661
Last edited by SYRIANKID; 01-06-2008 at 06:11 PM.
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01-06-2008, 06:12 PM
#3296
Protein Hacker
I searched through the thread regarding Aisha's (ra) marriage to Muhammad (saw), and am now convinced that they were both married at the age of 6 and began living together at the age of 9.
Now, I also noticed that the Hadith cited specifically used the term's cohabitant, instead of consummate. However, many non-Muslims will suggest that consummation took place at the age of nine.
Am I correct in saying that the age of consummation is unknown?
Jazak
Because if it were easy, I wouldn't be interested.
God has a better plan for my life, than I do, for my own.
Go, weave your snares with logic and design. The speed of my flight will take your breath away. - Mirza Ghalib
=== 228 Crew ===
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01-06-2008, 06:15 PM
#3297
God is Greater
Originally Posted by mehdi84
I searched through the thread regarding Aisha's (ra) marriage to Muhammad (saw), and am now convinced that they were both married at the age of 6 and began living together at the age of 9.
Now, I also noticed that the Hadith cited specifically used the term's cohabitant, instead of consummate. However, many non-Muslims will suggest that consummation took place at the age of nine.
Am I correct in saying that the age of consummation is unknown?
Jazak
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
I don't know what you mean by "both were married at the age of 9". The Prophet (pbuh) was around 48 when he married Aisha (may God be pleased with her) who was 6, and they began living together as husband and wife when he was 51 and she was 9.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
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Pbuh: If anyone testifies that None has the right to be worshipped but God Alone Who has no partners, and that Muhammad is His Servant and His Apostle, and that Jesus is God's Servant and His Apostle and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a Spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is true, and Hell is true, God will admit him into Paradise
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01-06-2008, 07:44 PM
#3298
La Ilaha Il-Allah
Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Bismillah Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem
Allahuma Salli 'ala Muhammad wa 'ala aalihi wa sahbihi ajma'een wa sallim
I don't know what you mean by "both were married at the age of 9". The Prophet (pbuh) was around 48 when he married Aisha (may God be pleased with her) who was 6, and they began living together as husband and wife when he was 51 and she was 9.
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Polemics/aishah.html
Jazakum Allah Khair
Barak Allah Feekum
W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu
Good Article
Remember God in prosperity and He will remember you in adversity
-Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
Rule between them by that which Allah revealed to you, and do not follow their vain desires away from the truth (5:48)
How few are the Romans and how numerous are we? 'An army's strength lies not in numbers of men but in Allah's help, and its weakness lies in being forsaken by Allah.
-Khalid ibn al-Walid
Islamic Alliance- Al-Aqsa Division
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01-06-2008, 07:50 PM
#3299
La Ilaha Il-Allah
Asalamu Alaikum wa RahmutAllahi wa Barakatuhu,
Who was the first male convert to Islam? I was always told it was Ali (RA) but now I'm hearing it was Abu Bakr (RA).
Jazak Allahu Khair
Last edited by 2X-eed; 01-06-2008 at 09:17 PM.
Remember God in prosperity and He will remember you in adversity
-Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)
Rule between them by that which Allah revealed to you, and do not follow their vain desires away from the truth (5:48)
How few are the Romans and how numerous are we? 'An army's strength lies not in numbers of men but in Allah's help, and its weakness lies in being forsaken by Allah.
-Khalid ibn al-Walid
Islamic Alliance- Al-Aqsa Division
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01-06-2008, 08:14 PM
#3300
Losing to Genetics
Originally Posted by mehdi84
Of course brother  That is why IMO one should get married as soon as you get a stable job, when living in a Western country. I feel your pain.
wow. yea i do
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