agree or disagree with this statement...

[Ryceryder85]

agree or disagree with this statement? please state why

If you have arms that measure less than 14 inches, you should NOT train them directly. For example if you have 13.5 inch arms, you shouldnt do skull crushers or bicep curls.

[KhanPaulsen]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA...

That is the funniest thing I've ever heard. I would probably still be at 14 inches if I had followed that TERRIBLE advice. Whomever said it should be shot.

Bottom line... You want arms you train them heavy, low volume, good form. Also, remember that the tricep is 2/3 of the arm and the bicep is just 1/3 (obviously). Mine are 18 inches, and they sure as hell wouldn't be there without HEAVY tricep work (reverse grip benching, close grip benching, close grip dips, skullcrushers etc).

[DennisP]

I strongly disagree. My arms are still below 14 inches, and I'm doing BB and skull crushers. My arms have actually grown. They're now slightly above 12 inches, from previously 11.9 inches.

[shadowmoses]

Disagree strongly

[Not So Big]

why would you not train biceps or triceps directly, what is the epoint?

[Ryceryder85]

i got this advice from here...

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...eight+gain+101

i read it and i wondered if the advice given was valid.

[KhanPaulsen]

The only thing I will give to the idea is based on teen ignorance in bodybuilding.

This idea has long been formulated by advanced trainers focusing on teens that usually overtrain their arms. The average teen only wants abs/chest/biceps and usually can't figure out why they never end up weighing more than 200 lbs and lean. The idea is simple...

If they go over to more heavy, compound movements like deadlifts, squats, T-Bar Rows, Hack Squats, etc. then they will reap the benefits of HGH and then their arms will grow even though they aren't being trained directly. This is actually proven to work, but is usually considered a bit extreme.

[KingWill]

I think the point of his post was that there are many movements to concentrate on and to get bigger and stronger with that are more important than curls and skull crushers.

[USMuscle9403]

This is actually proven to work, but is usually considered a bit extreme.

I have to agree with this. I've seen so many guys say 'you don't need to trian arms directly, deadlifts and rows will take care of them'. To me, that is way exaggerated, meat-headed advice. If that held true, then one would not need to train lats, delts, traps, forearms, calves, etc. See where I am going with this? It's completely exaggerated advice and it's one of those products of 'super consolidation' thinking. I'm sorry, but if you didn't train biceps, triceps, forearms, lats, delts, traps, forearms, calve and hams all individually you are going to be a strange looking bodybuilder with alot of weakpoints. Granted there are some guys that can get away with out training one or more of those muscle groups, but that is definitely not the case for all.

[Not So Big]

I have to agree with this. I've seen so many guys say 'you don't need to trian arms directly, deadlifts and rows will take care of them'. To me, that is way exaggerated, meat-headed advice. If that held true, then one would not need to train lats, delts, traps, forearms, calves, etc. See where I am going with this? It's completely exaggerated advice and it's one of those products of 'super consolidation' thinking. I'm sorry, but if you didn't train biceps, triceps, forearms, lats, delts, traps, forearms, calve and hams all individually you are going to be a strange looking bodybuilder with alot of weakpoints. Granted there are some guys that can get away with out training one or more of those muscle groups, but that is definitely not the case for all.

what the flip kip, you eatin all the chips!

i agree, I dont know who wouldnt train all there muscles with direct work

[Ryceryder85]

thanks for all the advice guys...much appreciated. Reps for all those who helped me..

[mdorroh]

agree or disagree with this statement? please state why

If you have arms that measure less than 14 inches, you should NOT train them directly. For example if you have 13.5 inch arms, you shouldnt do skull crushers or bicep curls.

That's a crock of ****..... My arms were well under fourteen and now that i've been training them directly for over a year i've seen more than 2.5inches of growth...

[Uriel_da_man]

agree or disagree with this statement? please state why

If you have arms that measure less than 14 inches, you should NOT train them directly. For example if you have 13.5 inch arms, you shouldnt do skull crushers or bicep curls.

I disagree. The only time you shouldn't work your arms directly is if they're growing out of proportion (wich is kinda hard to do, arms can rarely be too big).