I am 6' on the dot, I went from 235 to 199 in a short period. I current sit at 193lbs and 13% body fat based on the bod pods. Calulating lbs lost with % lost 8% for me would be around 185, so it seems rather accurate to me.
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06-27-2013, 10:01 PM #31
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06-28-2013, 12:55 PM #32
6% is not sustainable or healthy. You won't make enough test for a teenage girl. Strength and muscle about to fall off a cliff. Mood and libido also.
Most strength athletes congregate in the range 13-18%, where they make enough test.
Even Arnie used to step on the Olympia stage at 9%, which is extremely lean, and at the bottom of the healthy male range.
Only small weak people will admire a small and weak ripped person.
Lol at packing on 20-30lbs of muscle in a life. It is probably true in your case, if you think that 6% is healthy.Beginners:
FIERCE 5:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159678631
Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)
Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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06-28-2013, 01:45 PM #33
I didn't say you should be at 6% bodyfat, just saying that if you're natural weighting 200 lbs at 5'10" you'll be minimum 20% bodyfat.
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06-28-2013, 04:56 PM #34
It is vastly easier to gain and maintain muscle if you have a normal healthy BF typical of a strength athlete. That is why they typically inhabit that range.
It is vastly harder if you get too lean. Even juicing bbers lose a ton of size and strength when they prepare for a contest, when they get too lean. No strongman or weightlifter or linebacker or powerlifter gets too lean without a huge strength penalty.
Yet you are saying that a 200lber who doesn't have an eating disorder, can only have 160lbs of lean mass, no matter that he squats and deadlifts vastly more than when he started, for lots of reps.......
......yet an aneroxic who actually desires and achieves 6% will be able to have 174lbs of lean mass(your example)..........in which case he should be VASTLY stronger because of the extra muscle. Which would be amazing for a guy going so far south of vag.
If your first example was true, then the second guy would be lucky to have 140lbs of lean mass, like all the little 150lbers here who have to ask Granny to open the pickle jar.
I'll just finish on one question, and I don't give a fck whether they juice or not:
Mike Tyson:
5'11" 220 @ 15% = 187 lean mass, 33 fat mass
Guy on threads with eating disorder but is actually shredded for the beach(might have lost a ton of size in the process, if he was ever big and strong to start):
5'11" 150 @ 6% = 141 lean mass, 9 fat mass.
Which one is most impressive?Last edited by jgreystoke; 06-28-2013 at 05:05 PM.
Beginners:
FIERCE 5:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159678631
Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)
Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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06-29-2013, 03:49 AM #35
I was talking of ripped HP physiques.
5'11 (180 cm), 150 lbs (68 kg) @ 6% is HP-12, genetic allows him to pack on other 12 kgs/25 lbs of muscle tissue (approximately). Of course a HP-12 wouldn't be impressive, just look at my bodyspace pics, in november I was 72 kgs (158 lbs), 183 cm tall (6'), HP-11. Just skin and bones, lol.
Again, I didn't say you should be ultra-lean, just saying that maximum MUSCULAR development corresponds to HP+0 ratio at low bodyfat. If you're natty HP+5, HP+10, HP+100 you'll be just FATTER than the ripped HP dude, not bigger. Only muscles count, fat doesn't.
Of course you'll be stronger at 15% bodyfat than 6%, given the SAME muscle mass. But I didn't speak of strength levels.Last edited by cagliostro; 06-29-2013 at 03:56 AM.
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06-29-2013, 04:05 AM #36
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06-29-2013, 08:41 AM #37
150 @ 6% is a small weak guy(lbm = 141lbs) with an eating disorder. If he stays that lean, he won't put on another 25lbs of muscle unless he drugs up. He can't make enough test.
But he can put on a lot MORE than 25lbs of MUSCLE if he moves to a normal healthy BF level, and trains progressively for enough reps for big exercises for the next few years.
Most guys don't have the balls to do that.
Max MUSCULAR development at 6% is vastly less than max MUSCULAR development at 15%.Beginners:
FIERCE 5:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159678631
Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)
Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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06-29-2013, 12:26 PM #38
This might help.
Last edited by jgreystoke; 06-29-2013 at 12:39 PM.
Beginners:
FIERCE 5:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=159678631
Beyond novice, 5 3 1 or see above:)
Unless it is obvious to anyone who isn't blind that you lift weights, you might still benefit from a little more attention to big basic barbell exercises for enough reps:).
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12-17-2014, 05:11 PM #39
If you are muscular and 6 feet tall, a little under 200 pounds should be a good weight. If you have normal or above average musculature, I think 180 to 185 pounds is decent. I am 6'0.5" not exactly 6'1" and 185 pounds. Also you have to take into account your waist and hip measurements, particularly your waist which is the measurement around your belly button, not where your pants or jeans sits which is beneath the belly button, if are 6 feet tall and your waist is over 36 inches, you are overweight.
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12-17-2014, 06:24 PM #40Strong, aesthetic crew.
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02-04-2015, 09:55 PM #41
I'm 6 feet tall and weigh 180. You can only tell I lift when my shirt off, in my opinion. My arms are 16" right now, currently at about 8% Body fat. Been lifting for 8 years and all my gains basically happened in first three years. All I'm able to do now is maintain it. My age probably isn't helping, I'm 45.
Last edited by Burton1970; 02-04-2015 at 10:20 PM.
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02-10-2015, 06:04 AM #42
Depends how big and how lean you want to be. 10% is sort of the standard for a realistically maintainable BF where you still look defined.
1) At 165 LBM you could have 10% at ~185.
2) At 175 LBM you could have 10% at ~195.
3) At 185 LBM you could have 10% at ~205.
A six foot guy probably shouldn't expect to have more than 185 LBM naturally.
Depending on your frame, these three options probably correspond to either 15, 16, and 17 inch arms respectively on the smaller end, or 16, 17, 18 respectively on the larger.
You approach an asymptote with gains. So, take your pick. Personally, after my first bulk and cut...I'm at 1. Wanna get to 2 in another year or so on a slow lean bulk. Don't think I'll really bother to push for 3 because there are diminishing marginal returns; more and more time needed for less and less gain. I'll probably just switch to maintenance for mass and focus on strength. Obsessing over the last 5 lbs is a body image problem. If I want to say I weigh in at 200 to impress (who?) for some reason, I can always go up to 12% BF for a bit.
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02-10-2015, 09:36 AM #43
I'm 6" and tip the scales at 280, I wear a size 36 pants too, Trying to trim down to about 240. That being said it all depends on how you carry it and what the weight is. I'm very strong but don't bloat much in terms of hypertrophy probably because I lifted strictly for power for about 10 years.
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02-10-2015, 10:09 AM #44
195 at shredded bodyfat
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02-10-2015, 10:17 AM #45
Weigh whatever makes you happy, if I were 6' I know I wouldn't want to get too much below 270, but I probably have vastly different goals than the OP does.
wow, I didn't realise that the OP posted this 10 years ago. I wonder what he ended up at.It'd be like staying fat while running marathons because it's more impressive to finish a marathon when you're overweight. It might be impressive in the short run, but in the long run it just doesn't make any sense. ~breathinglife
Raw competition lifts ....................Equipped
Squat 661
Bench 490...........................................666.9
Dead 585
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02-10-2015, 10:36 AM #46
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12-05-2016, 12:09 AM #47
Hahah what a blast from the past. I just logged into this account after years of not checking it.
So back when i posted this i guess i weighed 158lbs.
I now weigh 211 but i also added all of the major lifts to my exercise routine and i always try to lift very heavy. Im still working out consistently. Thank god.
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12-05-2016, 01:11 PM #48
depends really... If you don't lift weights and stay lean and have low body fat %, 160-170 is fine. About 1 year ago, i weighed 156lbs, at 6'1... I felt fine but people did tell me 'you have lost weight'. I started lifting 6 months ago and am at 172 lbs but still look slim. I have gained almost 20 lbs and some people don't notice because i guess weight has been added in right places and it's been more muscle than fat. You can gain muscle and still look relatively slender at 6'1 unless you get into 190+, at this point you may start to look big...
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12-05-2016, 01:47 PM #49
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05-29-2017, 04:39 PM #50
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6ft and 237 lbs and only 18% bf
I am 6ft tall even and last bodpod test said 18.1% body fat. I am also a powerlifter who eats clean 80% of the time. I take in 280-320g of protein and carbs daily. I do not worry about fat as I trust the fat I any getting from lean cuts of meat. The other 20% of the time I am eating treats and goodies that I like.
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05-29-2017, 04:54 PM #51
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07-24-2017, 11:32 PM #52
Depends on your body really. I'm 6 ft 260, but 17 percent body fat 35 inch waist. My bone mass is 10.6 pounds and I have 84 percent mean mucle. It says,my muscle mass is 188.4... it all depends on you.
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