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NAPALM Log/Review
NAPALM Log/Review
Napalm Ingredients:
Glycyrrhetinic acid, raspberry ketones, SesaThin, yohimbine HCl, synephrine HCl
Napalm is a next generation topical fat loss product that addresses cortisol control on SAT(Subcutaneous Adipose Tissue). This is the layer of fat on top of your muscle.
To be honest, I was initially interested in this product because it was said to contain Tyramine. I have had some issues with my chest this summer, and what I believe to be prolactin induced chest fat. As I have gotten leaner this summer, my chest has seemed to add fat. I will not get into this anymore, as tyramine is not included in the product anymore.
Yohimbine may still be effective for this purpose. However, the majority of the fat I carry I assume to be majorly SAT. That said, I figured I may still be a very good tester for this product.
Dosing: I will be using 5 squirts after my shower first thing in the morning, and 5 after my shower in the evening. 1 squirt will be applied to each pec, and 3 to the abdomen/oblique area. This may change, and I may end up using more on my chest, depending.
As you can see, I have come along way in my battle against fat tissue. This was me during the football season of my senior year:
Immediately following this year I began exercising/dieting, and lost weight rather quickly. I lost probably 60-70 pounds the wrong way, losing muscle and fat in the process. I eventually wised up and began to lose fat the correct way. For the past 6-7 months I have been on a recomp/slight cut, with main focus to lose fat, but not necessarily weight.
During this log I will employ a carb cycling diet. On leg and back days I will be hypercaloric(~500 cals). All off days, or cardio days I will have a calorie defecit (~500 + cals). Other lifting days will be about a 300 calorie defecit. I will refeed with a 1000-1500 calorie surplus IF and when I feel necessary.
My training is pretty eclectic, and my week is dictated on my body and how I feel. Often times I will end up lifting 6 days a week. Other weeks may be 4, but my split is consistent, I just take off days when I deem necessary. I do HIIT for almost all my cardio, unless PWO. I will probably get in a cardio session 6 days a week minimum. I rarely take a full day off, even if some say I should, I do some sort of physical activity 7 days a week.
Here are pictures from about a week ago, to show you where I'm at:
Tomorrow morning I will take close-up pics of my chest and abdomen. I will also have official measurements. First squirts will be applied tomorrow.
**Thank you to Tony of Avant Labs for allowing me to test this product.**
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08-09-2007, 11:12 PM
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Word.
But am I stupid or blind, because I honestly don't see much chest fat at all.
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08-10-2007, 02:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redhawk76
My training is pretty eclectic....
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Where's John "Hollywood" Lee !!!
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08-10-2007, 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SirSavageX
Word.
But am I stupid or blind, because I honestly don't see much chest fat at all.
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Trust me, it is pretty bad. Wait until my close-up pics
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Originally Posted by pu12en12g
Where's John "Hollywood" Lee !!! 
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Hahahha
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08-10-2007, 06:47 AM
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Measurements:
Waist (widest point): 32 in.
Stomach Caliper: 11 mm
Chest Caliper: 17 mm  (This was NOT the normal area where a chest reading is taken, but rather surrounding the nipple, where most of the fat resides)
Pictures are taken, I will upload them later today.
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08-10-2007, 08:46 AM
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I'm in on this for sure
Looking forward to seeing your results
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08-11-2007, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by skircus7
I'm in on this for sure
Looking forward to seeing your results 
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Thanks Sam, I'm looking forward to them as well
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08-11-2007, 12:18 PM
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I'll be drilling you with questions on this product at school, make sure you can answer them
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HGHup log in the near future
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08-11-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bigla2004
I'll be drilling you with questions on this product at school, make sure you can answer them 
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Hahah I'll do my best
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08-11-2007, 01:29 PM
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Initial Impressions
This morning was my third dosing of NAPALM. My initial thoughts are that it smells pretty good, hard to describe, but I like it. I've also noticed the little balls, which is the carbomer, no big deal.
Yesterday I didn't notice much of anything, but maybe some tingling after application.
Today, I was out in the sun about an hour after application, and was sweating profusely, especially on the areas of application. It also burned/tingled. Not painful, but definitely a burning sensation.
I also noticed somewhat significant water retention today, I'll see if that continues.
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08-11-2007, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redhawk76
Initial Impressions
This morning was my third dosing of NAPALM. My initial thoughts are that it smells pretty good, hard to describe, but I like it. I've also noticed the little balls, which is the carbomer, no big deal.
Yesterday I didn't notice much of anything, but maybe some tingling after application.
Today, I was out in the sun about an hour after application, and was sweating profusely, especially on the areas of application. It also burned/tingled. Not painful, but definitely a burning sensation.
I also noticed somewhat significant water retention today, I'll see if that continues.
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hmmmm......wonder if the water retention will go away after a few days.....I guess you will see!
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08-11-2007, 02:39 PM
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where did u get napalm i didnt see it at bb store
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08-13-2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by skircus7
hmmmm......wonder if the water retention will go away after a few days.....I guess you will see!
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It seems to stay for a couple hours after application. 5-7 hours after application it isn't really noticeable, but it is very noticeable within the first couple hours.
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where did u get napalm i didnt see it at bb store
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This is a sponsored log.
Napalm is not available yet.
Just to update a little. Hard to say if anything has really happened yet. Tingling sensation is present after application, and if I'm in the heat or working out shortly after applying, it will burn quite a bit. The burning is not a painful burn, however.
When I workout many hours after application, I notice no difference in heat or sweat.
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08-17-2007, 09:01 AM
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Week 1 Impressions
Yesterday concluded the first week of NAPALM.
After one week, my waist remained the same, however, I do believe I have lost some because I feel like I am holding a lot of water. It is really noticeable on my stomach, where the majority of the NAPALM is applied. Subjectively, I think my obliques/hips look a good amount leaner. Hard to tell yet what is happening with my chest, but I'll have caliper readings at the halfway mark. Some times my chest feels a little tighter, and other times not so much.
Overall I am content with the results so far, although the water retention has been somewhat annoying. If the results are good, however, the temporary water retention will be worth it.
I am not noticing much tingling anymore, for what it's worth. Doesn't really mean much, just noting. I'll update again in a couple days, hopefully I'll be able to tell more accurately if I've leaned up much, by then.
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08-20-2007, 12:28 PM
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I still seem to be holding a good amount of water, especially soon after application. The best time for me to evaluate is right before my first application of the day, obviously.
I seem to have somewhat of a flatter stomach, and my hips/obliques seem a little leaner, but nothing too dramatic yet. I will update the measurements, and pics at the halfway mark, which will be in a couple days.
So far, nothing too dramatic, but given my assumed water retention, after the complete trial results may be pretty good, time will tell.
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08-24-2007, 09:07 AM
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Week 2 Impressions
It has been two weeks since I started NAPALM. I planned on having comparison pics today, but after evaluating myself in the mirror, there is no point. It would be very difficult to tell a difference at this point.
As for measurements, my waist is slightly under the start of 32, and the calipers read the same for chest, and slightly lower for stomach (<<mm difference).
I am definitely holding water in my gut, and it is annoying at times. Like I've said, if the end result is good, this will not be too big of a deal, but so far it has caused some inconveniences.
I'm curious to see what happens when the water clears itself. Also, my diet has been great, and I am actually leaning up pretty nicely in my arms/shoulders, which is where I lose fat the easiest.
Perhaps my diet could/should be a little more aggressive in order to see better results, I'm not sure. I don't want to adjust it too much now to skew results.
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08-25-2007, 06:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by redhawk76
Week 2 Impressions
It has been two weeks since I started NAPALM. I planned on having comparison pics today, but after evaluating myself in the mirror, there is no point. It would be very difficult to tell a difference at this point.
As for measurements, my waist is slightly under the start of 32, and the calipers read the same for chest, and slightly lower for stomach (<<mm difference).
I am definitely holding water in my gut, and it is annoying at times. Like I've said, if the end result is good, this will not be too big of a deal, but so far it has caused some inconveniences.
I'm curious to see what happens when the water clears itself. Also, my diet has been great, and I am actually leaning up pretty nicely in my arms/shoulders, which is where I lose fat the easiest.
Perhaps my diet could/should be a little more aggressive in order to see better results, I'm not sure. I don't want to adjust it too much now to skew results.
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I have never used a transdermal fat-loss product, but if you KNOW you are holding a lot of subcutaneous water because of Napalm, then you will really be able to see the results once you stop using it. I wouldnt lower the calories too much......you dont want to risk losing muscle!
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08-25-2007, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by skircus7
I have never used a transdermal fat-loss product, but if you KNOW you are holding a lot of subcutaneous water because of Napalm, then you will really be able to see the results once you stop using it. I wouldnt lower the calories too much......you dont want to risk losing muscle! 
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Ya I'm certainly hoping that is the case. I'm not planning on dropping cals, but I do assume that a larger defecit would make a transdermal much more effective, perhaps at the cost of muscle as well, however.
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08-29-2007, 10:01 AM
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I'm holding off on measurements until the end, because I don't expect a huge difference right now.
However, a cpl pairs of shorts are noticeably fitting better.
I am not seeing more definition, but I'm assuming that is due to the extreme water retention. I feel somewhat softer after application, and don't really like it, but again it will be worth it if results are good.
I'd say I have about a week or so left, but we'll see.
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08-29-2007, 10:08 AM
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Looking forward to see how this works out for you Brian.
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09-02-2007, 02:50 PM
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I'm getting pretty close to the end of my bottle. I'm pretty sure once the water clears I should have solid results, but we shall see.
I'll hold off taking measurements and pictures until a couple days after I stop application, as I am undoubtedly holding water.
One thing I have noticed for a while, but never really connected it was more frequent stomach aches than usual. It isn't immediately after application, hence the original lack of a connection. I still can't say for sure, as I am unaware if it is plausible to be from NAPALM, but the amount of stomach aches since starting is up somewhat significantly, with no real change in diet.
Again, I haven't seen anyone else mention this, so it could be unrelated.
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09-05-2007, 06:43 PM
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Yesterday morning was my final application of NAPALM.
The water retention that I can easily notice has dropped, but I suspect there is more to go. It was worse closer to application times, so I'm assuming it'll be gone relatively soon.
That said, unless I am holding a decent amount of water, my ab region does not look better at all
I will know a little better when I take measurements after I assume the water is gone. My chest may have improved a decent amount, we'll see.
My final review will go into much detail about my thoughts. There are some possible sides that may or may not be from NAPALM, I will know better after being off a few days, hence the delay in the final review.
For a basic preview though, water retention was ridiculous for me, although I seem to be the exception for the most part in that regard.
Fat loss in the ab region was non-significant unless I am still holding a good amount of water.
Chest seems a good amt tighter, pics/measurements should confirm/deny this.
Possible sides that occurred since starting Napalm, will know better after being off a couple days.
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09-10-2007, 06:01 PM
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NAPALM Final Review
I have never been interested in topical fat loss formulas. However, after struggling with some stubborn chest fat very recently, I began to look into it shortly before the testers thread was announced. I had no idea what to expect, as I've never used a product of this nature before.
I kept my diet constant, which is detailed in the first post. This diet allows me to lose fat at a rather slow pace, whiled holding onto a good amount of strength. It is not a drastic low calorie/carb cut, but it is designed for fat/weight loss nonetheless. My goal with the addition of NAPALM was to help with my chest fat that seemed to get worse even as the rest of my body was getting leaner. Also, I wanted to test it out on the good amount of SAT I had on my abs. Since the chest was a smaller are individually, I ended up using 2-3 squirts on BOTH pecs, and then another 3-4 on my ab area. Total of 6 regardless.
Miscellaneous: My first impressions of this product was that it smells very good. It doesn't take too long to absorb assuming you spread it out to a large enough are on the body. There is usually a decent build up of carbomer, which isn't much of a problem.
I felt the "burn" (icy-hot feeling) and enhanced sweating very rarely, but occasionally it was present. It was a cool feeling when my abs were hot and sweating more than normal.
Side Effects: Unfortunately, the sides of this product were somewhat of a problem, or at least quite an annoyance. The water retention was what got me the most. At first it didn't seem too bad, and right before my second application it was almost not there at all.
However, after a while of consistent application it became extremely apparent. So noticeable that I could literally feel it when seated, as my shorts would make me feel chubbier/fatter
While that is annoying, I also happened to have my shirt off more than normal this month, and wasn't thrilled with the water. I said all along, however, that if the results were good enough this would not be that big of a deal.
I also seemed to have a stomach ache every 2-3 days, which after being off NAPALM and having none, I assume was caused by NAPALM. I haven't seen this in any other log, so I am unsure if this is FOR SURE from it.
Results: Normally when cutting my arms/shoulders lose fat before anywhere else. This was no different during this month. I did indeed see a pretty decent reduction in chest fat, at least in comparison to the progress my chest specifically had been making previously.
Unfortunately, after allowing the water to clear, I notice almost NO difference in my ab area. I did lose a little bit on the measuring tape, but not much. Also, caliper reading was about the same, if not very slightly less.
It is hard to come to a concise conclusion given these results, but personally I will most likely not use this again, or any topical products any time soon.
I clearly made progress overall, but saw no real difference in SAT loss in the ab area from normal. I am happy with the chest improvement, however. Just not enough to justify using this again.
**I will be posting pictures either tonight or tomorrow, of close-up comparisons. I can tell a difference in the chest picture, but honestly no differences can really be deciphered from the ab pic, IMHO.**
Another reason I don't intend to use this again is because I honestly don't feel the water retention was worth the results, or lack thereof. I can say that I seem to be the exception in terms of results AND water retention. Nobody else mentioned this extreme water retention, and almost every one has had very impressive results.
I think this may be due to a couple factors.
1. My diet wasn't as aggressive as others, and I cycled calories so I was occasionally hypercaloric. Perhaps I would have been better off using it only on hypocaloric days. That wouldn't have been fair, as this log would've taken much longer.
2. Perhaps others came off of a bulk right when starting this, or changed their diet somewhat.
3. I was not at a low enough BF to notice results?
The water retention however, I cannot explain, as nobody mentioned it as more than noticeable.
I encourage you to check out other logs before making a decision. I was not overly happy with the results, but many others have been.
I would like to thank Tony and Avant for allowing me to test this, and it looks like a winner for other, just not me.
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09-11-2007, 10:02 AM
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Well done, man. Thanks.
I'm a little confused by your conclusion, though. Wasn't your chest the primary area that you needed and wanted to lose fat and that's what indeed happened?
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09-11-2007, 03:39 PM
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Well done, man. Thanks.
I'm a little confused by your conclusion, though. Wasn't your chest the primary area that you needed and wanted to lose fat and that's what indeed happened?
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yes, but not an extremely significant amount. The main reason I came to that conclusion is because of NO results in the abdomen area, which is why my conclusion was so detailed. I don't plan to use it again, because I don't have a clue as to how that is possible.
Hence, I feel that people should look at other logs and feedback, because mine is not definitive.
I apologize as I feel like my testing turned out inconclusive, but knowing my body I feel as if the NAPALM did not benefit ME. Again, I encourage all to check out other reviews.
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09-11-2007, 04:46 PM
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Thanks for the honest review, brotha! Sorry I didn't catch this earlier!
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