Don't Take Arginine Pre-workout ?!?

[Incorrection]

i have a supp guide which came in an issue of flex. the product in question, arginine,is listed in the preworkout section of the book. it states ,
"these products not only provide fule for starving muscles during workouts, but they give a skin stretching pump with each set."

the mag then rates the product as 5 out of 5 for effectivness stating,
"it enhances nitric oxide (NO) production. this crucial compound helps improve blood flow to exercising muscles and therefore the delivery of nutrients, hormones and oxygen, which can help body-builders in their training and recovery. in clinical studies,arginine has also been found to SIGNIFICANTLY RAISE GH levels at dose of 5-10grames."

dose 3-10grams of arginine or NO products 3times per day,one dose 30-60mins preworkout, and one dose 30-60mins before bed.

this is why you dont buy flex lul

[NO HYPE]

Don't Take Arginine Pre-workout ?!?

Unless your using L-norvaline, why even bother with arginine? Out of a single dose, a very high percentage is degradated within the liver by arginase I. Just go with citrulline instead.

[Kyle.Lgk]

this is why you dont buy flex lul

strong bump

[Ninjajapseye]

i have been training for a yr now and have totally upped my workouts and today brought l arginine and zma, prior to your question i searched and found this info:

L-arginine is a useful amino acid that many people take as a supplement. It helps the body rid itself of ammonia and make creatine, L-glutamate and L-proline. It is used to make nitric oxide, which relaxes blood vessels. It is believed to help combat atherosclerosis and erectile dysfunction. It is also known to stimulate the release of growth hormones.
How to use

One manufacturer of L-arginine identified four different ways the amino acid can be taken depending on what you want to achieve with it. These protocols are for general health benefits, anti-aging benefits, fat burning and muscle building. Other manufacturers recommend similar protocols, though not as many. You should use the serving size recommended by the manufacturer of your L-arginine for the specific protocol.
General health

L-arginine is an anti-oxidant that can help boost energy levels and maintain a steady level of blood sugar. It also helps combat erectile dysfunction. You should take one serving of L-arginine three times a day, but you shouldn't take it within half an hour of eating. Also, do not take L-lysine within two hours of taking the L-arginine.
Anti-aging

To take advantage of the benefit of L-arginine that could help you look younger, you should take two servings of L-arginine at bed time. Do not take L-citrulline, sugary drinks or supplements containing amino acids within two hours of drinking the L-arginine.
Fat burning

L-arginine can help decrease your body fat and boost your energy levels at the same time. You should prepare a serving of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. If you work out twice a day, you can take L-arginine before and during both workouts. You shouldn't consume sugary drinks or protein within two hours prior to or following drinking L-arginine.
Muscle building

L-arginine can increase muscle mass and stimulate muscle growth. It will also provide the nutrients to your body so it can help you maintain a healthy growth hormone level. The muscle-building protocol is for professional and serious athletes. You should prepare a serving of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. Gradually work up to taking three servings of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. You should also work up to taking three servings at bedtime. You shouldn't consume sugary drinks or protein within two hours prior to or following drinking L-arginine.




hope this helps,

[shadar]

i have been training for a yr now and have totally upped my workouts and today brought l arginine and zma, prior to your question i searched and found this info:

L-arginine is a useful amino acid that many people take as a supplement. It helps the body rid itself of ammonia and make creatine, L-glutamate and L-proline. It is used to make nitric oxide, which relaxes blood vessels. It is believed to help combat atherosclerosis and erectile dysfunction. It is also known to stimulate the release of growth hormones.
How to use

One manufacturer of L-arginine identified four different ways the amino acid can be taken depending on what you want to achieve with it. These protocols are for general health benefits, anti-aging benefits, fat burning and muscle building. Other manufacturers recommend similar protocols, though not as many. You should use the serving size recommended by the manufacturer of your L-arginine for the specific protocol.
General health

L-arginine is an anti-oxidant that can help boost energy levels and maintain a steady level of blood sugar. It also helps combat erectile dysfunction. You should take one serving of L-arginine three times a day, but you shouldn't take it within half an hour of eating. Also, do not take L-lysine within two hours of taking the L-arginine.
Anti-aging

To take advantage of the benefit of L-arginine that could help you look younger, you should take two servings of L-arginine at bed time. Do not take L-citrulline, sugary drinks or supplements containing amino acids within two hours of drinking the L-arginine.
Fat burning

L-arginine can help decrease your body fat and boost your energy levels at the same time. You should prepare a serving of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. If you work out twice a day, you can take L-arginine before and during both workouts. You shouldn't consume sugary drinks or protein within two hours prior to or following drinking L-arginine.
Muscle building

L-arginine can increase muscle mass and stimulate muscle growth. It will also provide the nutrients to your body so it can help you maintain a healthy growth hormone level. The muscle-building protocol is for professional and serious athletes. You should prepare a serving of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. Gradually work up to taking three servings of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. You should also work up to taking three servings at bedtime. You shouldn't consume sugary drinks or protein within two hours prior to or following drinking L-arginine.




hope this helps,

Strong bump, but the info you posted is a sales pitch/misleading.

Here's some better reading for ya:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=124049701
GH Booster? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...3&postcount=34

[ISurfNudeBrah]

inb4 no hype

[GodGiven]

L-arginine is a useful amino acid that many people take as a supplement. It helps the body rid itself of ammonia and make creatine, L-glutamate and L-proline. It is used to make nitric oxide, which relaxes blood vessels. It is believed to help combat atherosclerosis and erectile dysfunction. It is also known to stimulate the release of growth hormones.

How to use
One manufacturer of L-arginine identified four different ways the amino acid can be taken depending on what you want to achieve with it. These protocols are for general health benefits, anti-aging benefits, fat burning and muscle building. Other manufacturers recommend similar protocols, though not as many. You should use the serving size recommended by the manufacturer of your L-arginine for the specific protocol.

General health
L-arginine is an anti-oxidant that can help boost energy levels and maintain a steady level of blood sugar. It also helps combat erectile dysfunction. You should take one serving of L-arginine three times a day, but you shouldn't take it within half an hour of eating. Also, do not take L-lysine within two hours of taking the L-arginine.

Anti-aging
To take advantage of the benefit of L-arginine that could help you look younger, you should take two servings of L-arginine at bed time. Do not take L-citrulline, sugary drinks or supplements containing amino acids within two hours of drinking the L-arginine.

Fat burning
L-arginine can help decrease your body fat and boost your energy levels at the same time. You should prepare a serving of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. If you work out twice a day, you can take L-arginine before and during both workouts. You shouldn't consume sugary drinks or protein within two hours prior to or following drinking L-arginine.

Muscle building
L-arginine can increase muscle mass and stimulate muscle growth. It will also provide the nutrients to your body so it can help you maintain a healthy growth hormone level. The muscle-building protocol is for professional and serious athletes. You should prepare a serving of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. Gradually work up to taking three servings of L-arginine and drink it prior to and during your daily workout. You should also work up to taking three servings at bedtime. You shouldn't consume sugary drinks or protein within two hours prior to or following drinking L-arginine

[ellsbebc]

What's with the multiple strong bumps ITT?

[rhadam]

i have a supp guide which came in an issue of flex. the product in question, arginine,is listed in the preworkout section of the book. it states ,
"these products not only provide fule for starving muscles during workouts, but they give a skin stretching pump with each set."

the mag then rates the product as 5 out of 5 for effectivness stating,
"it enhances nitric oxide (NO) production. this crucial compound helps improve blood flow to exercising muscles and therefore the delivery of nutrients, hormones and oxygen, which can help body-builders in their training and recovery. in clinical studies,arginine has also been found to SIGNIFICANTLY RAISE GH levels at dose of 5-10grames."

dose 3-10grams of arginine or NO products 3times per day,one dose 30-60mins preworkout, and one dose 30-60mins before bed.

LOL r we seriously citing Flex Magazine? NoHype just rolled over in his grave.

[IntensityX]

What's with the multiple strong bumps ITT?

Don't know but your rep power is evil

[Joelsopher]

I also read that taking L-arginine and L-ornithine taken together can result in growth hormone release.

Link here: http://journals.lww.com/nsca-jscr/Ab...reases.28.aspx

[aljick]

^what were those two copy+pastas, customer sales representatives?


bump for useful thread and top google result



I have recently bought some pure aakg and first time I took 1 gr (low dose) and had very bad bad bad diarrhea for 2-3 days. Because AAKG can stimulate the release of some gastrointestinal acidic enzymes, the effect lasting for a couple of days (read wikip article)

I suggest everyone to start at a very low dose and then assess your tolerance.

Overall, I seem to have concluded that the best time (FOR ME) to take AAKG is early in the morning, not necessarily pre-workout, but before the workout during the day.


Edit: I'd also stay away from it if you're under 23 yrs old, shouldn't need it (same arguments as with celltech)

[gorskii]

As far as im aware, your muslces are getting bigger and healing during your rest period.

So during workout you dont really need GH, since you arent trying to grow your muscles but are trying to "Damage" or "Rip the muscle fibers" them so that when you are resting they can heal and become bigger during the next couple days, the more efectively you "damage" or "Rip the muscle fibers" during your workout the bigger and stronger your muscles will grow during rest period to adjust to the load they are anticipating next time.

If Arginine helps you pump more and increase the load at which your muscles are getting better "Damage" or "muscle fiber Rip" then it is an excelent suplement to take during or prior to workout. As GH is pretty much obsolite during the "Damaging" phase.

And since Arginine helps increase GH on rest/non workout days it is again an excelent suplement as the rest/nonworkout days are the days you need the most GH to repair your muscles...