Cardio on empty stomach in the morning to lose weight?

[RYU23]

Hey I have been troubled by this for awhile. What is the best weight to lose fat and retain muscle in the morning?

I need to lose a lot of fat. And am definitely overweight. I know I won't get cut until I start stripping fat off of my muscle.

I read this article and from my understanding in order to counter muscle catabolism you want to take in protein asap.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/matt88.htm#tips

Any tips or help on this subject is greatly appreciated!
Rep for post!

[Bignbuff]

Protein and carbs should be consumed before cardio to prevent catabolism.

[RYU23]

Any helpful supporting links?

[Bignbuff]

You know it

The Cardio Compilation

[RYU23]

Thanx!

[RYU23]

Oh and would skim milk + scoop of ON 100% whey and some Oatmeal do the trick? That's not to much right?

[Bignbuff]

Oh and would skim milk + scoop of ON 100% whey and some Oatmeal do the trick? That's not to much right?

No need for the skim milk IMO...

I like just whey and oatmeal.

[RYU23]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bignbuff again.

[RYU23]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bignbuff again.
Amazing link man! Tons of HELP!

I realize now that I should be doing HIIT. And I'm gonna be having my oatmeal and scoop of protein as soon as I get up. And post meal shall have 2 scoops protein and a real meal shortly after.

[PowerSwede]

Skip the carbs before cardio, your body will start burning fat a lot faster when you are low on glycogen, wait for the insulin raise following the whey to drop before you start your cardio since you won't burn any fat with insulin in your bloodstream.

At some point you will have to consider which is more important to you, to keep more muscle and burn less fat or to burn more fat and lose more muscle.

To me fat loss comes first, regaining lost muscle is easier than concentrating on both issues and usually failing miserably.

All is IME from having tried it both ways.

[Justin.L]

i dont think you really need to worry about catabolism since its cardio...? correct me if im wrong, but you burn up to 300% more fat in the morning on an empty stomach, because your lacking carbs and calories to use for energy on an empty stomach, so ur body has no choice other than to burn fat. just have a protein shake afterwards or sumthin.

[PowerSwede]

i dont think you really need to worry about catabolism since its cardio...? correct me if im wrong, but you burn up to 300% more fat in the morning on an empty stomach, because your lacking carbs and calories to use for energy on an empty stomach, so ur body has no choice other than to burn fat. just have a protein shake afterwards or sumthin.

Doesn't matter what kind of excersise you do, aerobic or anaerobic, negative calories always mean catabolism.

[RYU23]

Skip the carbs before cardio, your body will start burning fat a lot faster when you are low on glycogen, wait for the insulin raise following the whey to drop before you start your cardio since you won't burn any fat with insulin in your bloodstream.

At some point you will have to consider which is more important to you, to keep more muscle and burn less fat or to burn more fat and lose more muscle.

To me fat loss comes first, regaining lost muscle is easier than concentrating on both issues and usually failing miserably.

All is IME from having tried it both ways.

So NO Oatmeal before the cardio?
Just some whey and water?
But post cardio is oatmeal + protein Ok?

[Obsession05]

[QUOTE=PowerSwede]Skip the carbs before cardio, your body will start burning fat a lot faster when you are low on glycogen, wait for the insulin raise following the whey to drop before you start your cardio since you won't burn any fat with insulin in your bloodstream.
QUOTE]

Recent studies have shown this to be only marginally effective. Also, you will find that if you eat something small before going out, your performance will be much, much better than with no food in your stomach, which leads to greater fat loss in the long run. A myth!

[RYU23]

[QUOTE=Obsession05]

Skip the carbs before cardio, your body will start burning fat a lot faster when you are low on glycogen, wait for the insulin raise following the whey to drop before you start your cardio since you won't burn any fat with insulin in your bloodstream.
QUOTE]

Recent studies have shown this to be only marginally effective. Also, you will find that if you eat something small before going out, your performance will be much, much better than with no food in your stomach, which leads to greater fat loss in the long run. A myth!

Sorry but I'm CONFUZED!

[PowerSwede]

[QUOTE=Obsession05]

Skip the carbs before cardio, your body will start burning fat a lot faster when you are low on glycogen, wait for the insulin raise following the whey to drop before you start your cardio since you won't burn any fat with insulin in your bloodstream.
QUOTE]

Recent studies have shown this to be only marginally effective. Also, you will find that if you eat something small before going out, your performance will be much, much better than with no food in your stomach, which leads to greater fat loss in the long run. A myth!

16 years of experience has shown this to be exceptionally effective.

As i wrote it's all IME and i have tried it both ways. Do you have a link to said studies? It would be interesting to read, thanks.

[PowerSwede]

So NO Oatmeal before the cardio?
Just some whey and water?
But post cardio is oatmeal + protein Ok?

IME that's the way to go if losing fat is the priority.

[Desp]

IME that's the way to go if losing fat is the priority.

What is IME?

[PowerSwede]

What is IME?

In My Experience.

[Bignbuff]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bignbuff again.
Amazing link man! Tons of HELP!

I realize now that I should be doing HIIT. And I'm gonna be having my oatmeal and scoop of protein as soon as I get up. And post meal shall have 2 scoops protein and a real meal shortly after.

Cool bro...NBD about the reps.