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    The teenage crowd must have a disposable income.
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    atleast im not one of the teens asking about PH, HGH or steroids i understand food and diet trust me =)

    and i might not even try one i was just seeing whats out there
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    its not that much all those things are about 110 dollars and thats if i bought them all at the same time if you replenish in intervals its like 30 here 20 there soo not bad
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    Originally Posted by rudy24 View Post
    atleast im not one of the teens asking about PH, HGH or steroids i understand food and diet trust me =)

    and i might not even try one i was just seeing whats out there
    I know what you mean. As much as supplement companies dont want teens taking their products and may look down on it, losing the HS sports crowds and HS kids who workout with disposable income would be a nice little hit to some companies.

    For your question, I like ragnarok alot but then again I'm taking the stim version.
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    Originally Posted by Runngunn29 View Post
    I know what you mean. As much as supplement companies dont want teens taking their products and may look down on it, losing the HS sports crowds and HS kids who workout with disposable income would be a nice little hit to some companies.

    For your question, I like ragnarok alot but then again I'm taking the stim version.
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    Originally Posted by DriverDan View Post
    Who told you supplement companies don't want teens taking their products??
    it's like the cig companies "not" wanting kids to start smoking....BAH
    Before my dad died of lung cancer last year he told me that they used to come to the playground in grade school and hand out mini packs of lucky strikes to get em started early....at least MOST Supplement companies are a bit more responsible than that..thank god....but I don't think they'd actively hunt down and destroy a 16 year old swallowing a scoop of "git-swole"
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    L-tyrosine is dirt-cheap, safe, and extremely effective. Lyle McDonald is even pretty fond of the stuff, and trust me, the guy isn't fond of much.
    True that. Bulk amino's are a good way to go as well. Tyrosine, Taurine, Beta Alanine, all can be had on the cheap, and all 3 of those seem to mix pretty decently too.
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    Originally Posted by ElMariachi View Post
    True that. Bulk amino's are a good way to go as well. Tyrosine, Taurine, Beta Alanine, all can be had on the cheap, and all 3 of those seem to mix pretty decently too.
    I agree, though I prefer altyr to tyr.
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