Why is it God wants us to pray so badly to him (especially Islam for example) and believe in him? If he's a allmighty being and so far ahead of us, our actions should do nothing to his emotions, in fact not being human, he probably doesn't even have the emotions we got right?
He allowed different religions to happen on earth, and now punishes people who have been influenced by their parents that their path is the correct one.
The god in religion is not merciful but rather a cruel war loving and hateful god.
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Thread: Why Pray and Believe?
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08-05-2007, 06:29 AM #1
Why Pray and Believe?
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08-05-2007, 06:58 AM #2Daily Galleria Loving!
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You just summarized religion in one paragraph, something most religious posters here will not accept or want to read (truth hurt). Good job. I must say this though: post something new. What you said has been rehashed over and over and over and over and over.Originally Posted by farzamk
We know the Abraham god (Christian for example) is evil. We know he wants us to worship him, we know he is a jealous god, etcetc.
The truth is, we made him so we can feel better about death. Really there is no god. Humans are the only animal that worship something, animals and insects don't.
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08-05-2007, 06:59 AM #3Registered User
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Its for us to get closer to God, God doesn't need anyone(obviously)Originally Posted by farzamk
Where does it state that? I can only go by what I believe, the bible, and there is nothing of that kind contained in it.Originally Posted by farzamk
See Micah 4:3Originally Posted by farzamk
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08-05-2007, 07:09 AM #4
Why does he punish us then if we dont believe in him?
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08-05-2007, 07:16 AM #5Daily Galleria Loving!
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According to Christianity, you can be Hitler but be in heaven if you believed in him and just say these words "please forgive me lord for all the murders I have ever committed". Just say these words before you die and you're in heaven. Yep, that's love too but a bad one. It just means Christian god is blind to justice.Originally Posted by farzamk
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08-05-2007, 07:19 AM #6
a book told me too
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08-05-2007, 07:21 AM #7Registered User
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From my understanding we are not punished for simply not believing in God. We can be punished though if we deliberately turn away from God.Originally Posted by farzamk
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08-05-2007, 07:21 AM #8The accidental bulker : (
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Actually thats not true...Originally Posted by swirl_journ
You go have all your sins wiped away IF you take Christ into your heart accept your own failings and inevitable sinning and give oer your soul to Jesus and take him on as your savior.
Given the megalomania of Hitler these steps would seemingly be impossible.
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08-05-2007, 07:23 AM #9Registered User
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actually god does have emotions/personality, for we were made in his image. And i noticed you like to stir up lots of controversey with your threads....don't you have a life or something better to do???Originally Posted by farzamk
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08-05-2007, 07:25 AM #10Registered User
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yes true but to most evil people that doesn't happen.....most evil people sorry to say go to hell.Originally Posted by swirl_journ
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08-05-2007, 07:38 AM #11BOILER UP!
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We know that from the old testament. Thats why Jesus came down here.Originally Posted by farzamk
Thats life, son!
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08-05-2007, 09:15 AM #12Dick and poop jokes
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Wait, wait, wait.. You think that he's evil because you've probably read Atheism: The Case Against God or The God Delusion and decided to let the arguments from outrage go to your head, but in fact have never actually read the Old or New Testament. I like how people cherry-pick the verses of calamity in the Bible without every adding in the other passages that show why the calamity was brought. I'm sure if your city was nothing but ****philac, angel-raping, children-sacrificing sorcerers after they made an Oath to worship and serve you, you would bring in some sort of justice.Originally Posted by swirl_journ
It's a "the Lord giveth, and the Lord taketh away" situation. Who are we to complain if he is the first cause of life? He can take it away if he pleases.
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.Originally Posted by swirl_journ
"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'" Matthew 7:15-23
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08-05-2007, 09:38 AM #13Registered User
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x2Originally Posted by farzamk
The fact is, the bible is filled with hate. For example, it clearly states that anyone working on the sabbath should be killed, there is nothing wrong with slavery, if your children are direspectful, they should be stoned, and much more...
source: the biblecall 213-DU WERDEST EINE KRANKENSCHWESTER BRAUCHEN!!!
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08-05-2007, 09:41 AM #14That is by far the dumbest reason not to believe in God I've ever heard/read.Originally Posted by swirl_journ
Last edited by Black_Spit; 08-05-2007 at 09:43 AM.
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08-05-2007, 10:05 AM #15Dick and poop jokes
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*buzzer noise*Originally Posted by HardcoreVlad
I suggest you read up on Deuteronomical criticism before you make an ignorant comment like that again.
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08-05-2007, 10:09 AM #16Watch the triangle brah
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*buzzer noise and anvil drop*Originally Posted by slowbus
Stop throwing around big words and telling people to "research" and refute a point for once. Kthnxbye."If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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08-05-2007, 11:44 AM #17
The bible is scientifically incorrect as well.
Such as saying night and day were made before the sun. Or the flat earth having mountains as its pillars to hold up the sky as a roof. Or how about flowers being made before the sun was? This and maybe 70-80 other verses in the bible are incorrect.
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08-05-2007, 11:48 AM #18Watch the triangle brah
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But GOD DID IT! Sheesh, what don't you atheist get about that!??!Originally Posted by farzamk
"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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08-05-2007, 12:00 PM #19A lot actually. How can it be night or day when there is no light to determine this? How did the flowers survive without food? And what about all those fables and fairytales in the bible?Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
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08-05-2007, 12:03 PM #20Registered User
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Let me guessOriginally Posted by farzamk
You didn't get your pony when you were a child?Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-05-2007, 12:07 PM #21Watch the triangle brah
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GOD did it.Originally Posted by farzamk
"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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08-05-2007, 12:08 PM #22u seem the only childish one here, and most ignorant.Originally Posted by Evolution_Z
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08-05-2007, 12:14 PM #23Registered User
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Originally Posted by 304
Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
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Originally Posted by farzamk
So as long as an atheist does it then its mature?
Don't answer as you will only make yourself look stupid.Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-05-2007, 12:15 PM #24Watch the triangle brah
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Dude...GOD DID ITOriginally Posted by Evolution_Z
"If the data is overwhelmingly in favor of evolution, to deny that reality will make us a cult -- some odd group that is not really interacting with the world"- Evangelical Bible scholar Bruce Waltke
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08-05-2007, 12:18 PM #25Jagerboy, you really deserve reps...Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
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08-05-2007, 12:23 PM #26Registered User
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Originally Posted by JAGERBOY
lol double ownageOriginally Posted by farzamk
Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-05-2007, 12:27 PM #27
maybe you should visit the 3 threads named: 101 contradictions in the bible. Maybe that'll prove to you your good old fairytale book is false. The threads are in this forum.
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08-05-2007, 12:32 PM #28Registered User
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nah I'll stay here with my buddies the atheists, only of course if you want me to leaveOriginally Posted by farzamk
Know then thyself, presume not God to scan
The proper study of Mankind is Man.
He hangs between; in doubt to act, or rest;
In doubt to deem himself a God, or Beast;
Born but to die, and reas'ning but to err;
Whether he thinks to little, or too much;
Chaos of Thought and Passion, all confus'd;
Created half to rise and half to fall;
Great Lord of all things, yet a prey to all,
Sole judge of truth, in endless error hurl'd;
The glory, jest and riddle of the world.
-Alexander Pope
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08-05-2007, 12:36 PM #29
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08-05-2007, 02:13 PM #30date +%H:%M | grep 4:20
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actually, he did. however, it was sacrificed to god because he loves the sweet sweet burning aroma of animal carcass.Originally Posted by Evolution_Z
There exists no separation between gods and men; one blends softly casual into the other. - Proverbs of Muad'dib
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