Anti-Gyno supplements??

[likewhoa8]

I know about 6-oxo, novedex, nolvadex, clomid, etc those are mostly for pct's.. however is there any chemical/supplement out there than can get rid of gyno thats already there? I was pretty much born with gyno, thanks dad! It's subtle but I hate it, good physique ruiner. I am contemplating surgery later in life, but for the time being (I'm 22), is there anything out there that could say eat away at the tissue? Maybe enzymes or something? Or a chemical? Thanks a lot....

[rothyman]

Some say that Havoc/Epistane gets rid of some gyno. But remember, never do a cycle soley to eliminate gyno! It could come back afterwards!

[fratboi850]

Letro

[Serpens Aeon]

Originally Posted by fratboi850

Letro

That's not quite a supplement.

To the OP, you'll have to go the pharmaceutical route, and even then it might be sketchy. What BF% are you?

[XCriticalBenchX]

Letro is probobly the best out there. U could do the OTC way and run an AI like regenesen at a high dosage (6 caps a day) in hopes it will eliminate it, but with that... theres no gurentee.

If it bothers u that much, see a doctor that specializes in gynochomastia.

Mike

[sXeWarrior]

Surgery

[BreakingPoint8]

Supplement: Neogenix Regenesen, Havoc (Or one of the many clones)
Aromatase Inhibitor: Letrozole (Femara)
If All Else Fails: Surgery

[Interlocutor]

Originally Posted by likewhoa8

I know about 6-oxo, novedex, nolvadex, clomid, etc those are mostly for pct's.. however is there any chemical/supplement out there than can get rid of gyno thats already there? I was pretty much born with gyno, thanks dad! It's subtle but I hate it, good physique ruiner. I am contemplating surgery later in life, but for the time being (I'm 22), is there anything out there that could say eat away at the tissue? Maybe enzymes or something? Or a chemical? Thanks a lot....

there are studies on several of the commonly used SERMs and/or AIs concerning the management of pre-existing gynecomastia. do a search on pubmed for gynecomastia and your chemical of choice.

example:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...ubmed_RVDocSum

Men with painful gynaecomastia were given 10 mg of tamoxifen for 3 months. Response to treatment was categorised as good, moderate and no response. Thirteen men (median age 36) were placed on tamoxifen. Ten patients responded well to tamoxifen. One patient developed calf tenderness and stopped the medication. No other adverse effects were reported. Two patients could not be followed up. Tamoxifen appears safe and effective in men with painful idiopathic or physiological gynaecomastia and should be considered as an initial option before contemplating surgery.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus

Men referred with gynaecomastia had clinical signs recorded, e.g., type (diffuse 'fatty' or retro-areolar 'lump'), size and possible aetiology. They were offered oral tamoxifen 20mg once daily for 6-12 weeks. On follow-up patients were assessed for complete resolution (CR), partial resolution where patient is satisfied with outcome (PR) or no resolution (NR). Success was either CR or PR. RESULTS: Thirty-six men accepted tamoxifen for physiological gynaecomastia. Median age was 31 (range 18-64). Tenderness was present in 25 (71%) cases. Sixteen men (45%) had 'fatty' gynaecomastia and 20 had 'lump' gynaecomastia. Tamoxifen resolved the mass in 30 patients (83.3%; CR=22, PR=8) and tenderness in 21 cases (84%; CR=0, PR=0). Lump gynaecomastia was more responsive to tamoxifen than the fatty type (100% vs. 62.5%; P=0.0041). CONCLUSIONS: Oral tamoxifen is an effective treatment for physiological gynaecomastia, especially for the lump type.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...RVAbstractPlus

Patients received reassurance alone or a 3- to 9-month course of an estrogen receptor modifier (tamoxifen or raloxifene). ... Some improvement was seen in 86% of patients receiving tamoxifen and in 91% receiving raloxifene, but a greater proportion had a significant decrease (>50%) with raloxifene (86%) than tamoxifen (41%). No side effects were seen in any patients. CONCLUSION: Inhibition of estrogen receptor action in the breast appears to be safe and effective in reducing persistent pubertal gynecomastia, with a better response to raloxifene than to tamoxifen. Further study is required to determine that this is truly a treatment effect.

IMHO a lot of those people reporting that Nolva (or other SERMs or even AIs) did not help their gyno, or had a relapse, have not taken it for the duration seen in those studies.

if you think about self-administered course of such, be aware of possible hepatotoxic effects (can cause fatty liver, dpon't drink and take the usual supps for liver health) and carcinogenic concerns, esp. with Nolva.

THE INTERLOCUTOR

[likewhoa8]

Awesome thanks for the studies.. I definitely would resort to the chemical fix before surgery.. of course I prob need to see a doctor and give him reason to believe nolvadex could work.. by showing him studies.. that be nice.. but yeah i'm about 15% bf I'd say.. my electric scale says like 18% but I never believe that thing fluctuates too much.. you can see my abs.. and there was times I was even thinner than now and I still had the damn gyno tissue.. I'm fine if I'm like in a pool or come out of a shower, cuz the nipple tightens.. but other its gross.. I think I have loose skin as well which gives the hanging effect when I bend over.. its funny too I work out so hard and have my abs gleaming in glory at times.. and people think I should be at the beach all day.. but what they don't know is that my damn gyno leaves me insecure in the face of them thinking i have an amazing body.. ugh.. damn genes..

[mattzor]

ya the best thing to do is either get surgery or fill in ur chest. I have pubertal gyno as well but u cant notice it anymore becuase I have gained so much muscle.