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Old 08-02-2007, 11:01 PM   #1
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Havoc & Trenadrol pulse cycle

Currently on an Epidrol cycle (havoc clone)...
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=3533501

Thinking of running a RPN Havoc & Kilosport Trenadrol pulsing cycle toward the end of september... Pulsing meaning only taking the 2 phs on lift days (3 days a week)

Havoc is 90 pills & Tren is 60... still figuring out dosage... will try and get it to end together... start out slow and taper off....

maybe..
hav trem
wk1 2 1
wk2 2 1
wk3 2 2
wk4 3 2
wk5 3 2
wk6 3 2
wk7 3 2
wk8 3 2
wk9 3 2
wk10 3 2
wk11 2 1
wk12 1 1

Any Yeys or Neys on this stack?
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:11 PM   #2
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doesn't look like much experiences with this one... so will just have to give it a go...

pulsing will end up being 10 weeks... at 3 wo a week...

on days - 3 Havoc/2 Trenadrol... (2H/1T b4 wo & 1H/1T aft wo)
off days - 50mg DHEA (25mg x 2)

besides the usual multi-v, fish oils, niacin (for chol) and super cissus... maybe some taurine depending on if backpumps come about...
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Old 08-22-2007, 04:43 PM   #3
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Are you gonna log this? I'd be interested to see your results.

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Old 08-22-2007, 05:45 PM   #4
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yep..yep... I already have them both in hand... just gotta finish my current short pct and going to take a few weeks off for a system detox.

planning to start on Sep 16th... and will do my weekly sun morn log like I usually do...
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im interested in seeing your results as well. Havent seen many logs on PH pulsing but have read about it. Good Luck!
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Old 08-31-2007, 08:20 PM   #6
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Decided to kick it up a notch and go with a EST Methyl-Vol (SD
clone) / Kilosports Trenadrol stack for a pulse of 3 days a week.
Dosage split between pre & post workouts, for now until I find the
best dosage for me.

mv 80 tn 60
wk1 2 74 1 57
wk2 3 65 2 51
wk3 2 59 2 45
wk4 3 50 2 39
wk5 2 44 2 33
wk6 3 35 2 27
wk7 2 29 2 21
wk8 3 20 2 15
wk9 2 14 2 9
wk10 3 5 2 3
wk11 2 -1 1 0

Decided to go with the SD clone since it supposedly more powerful than
the Havocs out there, which should return more gains on this pulse.
Plus it does have some liver support mixed in already, which is good
since I wasn't planning on taking any support with this...
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12 weeks on a methlyated ph? are you crazy??!?!

not more than 4 weeks on havoc and the same goes for the tren.
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12 weeks on a methlyated ph? are you crazy??!?!

not more than 4 weeks on havoc and the same goes for the tren.
it's a pulse...so only 3 of 7 days a week...

plus check out my other logs, as I do have a little experience with ph/ps cycles... I'm not crazy... surely a little nutz though...
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Old 09-09-2007, 01:11 PM   #9
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got my log up....

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yah... kinda wanted to try a superdrol clone to see what that does for me... actually I am selling the Havoc on Ebay right now...
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yah... kinda wanted to try a superdrol clone to see what that does for me... actually I am selling the Havoc on Ebay right now...
o.O How much? I've already got my bottle, but I might want another for later on next year. I'm going to run my Havoc cycle around Jan(birthday).
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o.O How much?
oh.. whatever the high bid is w/free shipping... look up RPN HAVOC on their search... I think it has 1 days left... like $19 right now I think...
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Im a complete n00b to PHs but im guessing i shouldnt even think about trying them till ATLEAST 19 right? j/w how they work and progress reports and that so i guess ill check out ur log :$
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oh.. whatever the high bid is w/free shipping... look up RPN HAVOC on their search... I think it has 1 days left... like $19 right now I think...
I'll take a look It'd be nice to get some Havoc for 20-25 bucks

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Im a complete n00b to PHs but im guessing i shouldnt even think about trying them till ATLEAST 19 right? j/w how they work and progress reports and that so i guess ill check out ur log :$
Correct. Stay away. I shouldn't be taking something as strong as Havoc at 21, but I'm hard headed.
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Correct. Stay away. I shouldn't be taking something as strong as Havoc at 21, but I'm hard headed.
k ty for info i just wanna be educated in case l8r on i decide to use something like this do you have any literature on the effects/side effects and such
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19.... I would say 21... Isn't what you want to hear, but right now your 16... which would rank no-way in heck.... at 16 you should be starting to head towards your peak testosterone levels. Guys hit that peak about 17-19, go crazy chasing chics, thinking about sex all the time, will hump anything that moves and fappin all the time... that is the peak and it slowly go down from there. If you are using a ph which your liver pretty much converts straight to test, you could jeopardize the production amount of your natural test for life. By 21, your body is usually set chemically, unless you are a slow-starter (late puberty)...
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