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    Split Workout or Full Body Workout for 13 year old?

    Recently my little brother has been taking intrest in weights. I'm just wondering whether it would be better for a younger person to start off on a split or a full body workout?
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    A progressive linear full body with emphasies on form.

    Dont negelect general endurance and power work
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    Fullbody unless hes already jacked, because fullbodies emphasize form (like big_fuzzy said), and build a good foundation. Also, the linear progression will be a good motivator for your bro.
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    cheers guys ill start havin a look into makin up something for him!
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    Originally Posted by no7beast View Post
    cheers guys ill start havin a look into makin up something for him!
    Try rippetoes. I'm doing it, and im actually 13 (not 14), and im getting great progress in all aspects
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    Originally Posted by Big_fuzzy View Post
    A progressive linear full body with emphasies on form.

    Dont negelect general endurance and power work
    Good response
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    The type of workout you do (full body) or (split) does not empathize on form. Thats working out period. You should always pay attention to form...doing full body isnt gonna help you with from...that comes from experience. I mean really....use some common sense.

    Does he just want to get in shape or actually take a interest in bodybuilding? If he wants to compete and what not go for split training...if he wants to just get in shape and impress the girls, go with the full body.
    Long term goals are extremely important, but short term goals get you there.

    When it comes to bodybuilding you get exactly what you put in.

    it doesn't matter where you start...the point is, your starting.
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    No free weights. he's still a bit too young for that.
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    Originally Posted by Big_fuzzy View Post
    A progressive linear full body with emphasies on form.

    Dont negelect general endurance and power work
    Awesome advice. Repped.


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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    No free weights. he's still a bit too young for that.
    I dont agree with that. Tell me how and why free weights is wrong for his age?
    Long term goals are extremely important, but short term goals get you there.

    When it comes to bodybuilding you get exactly what you put in.

    it doesn't matter where you start...the point is, your starting.
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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    No free weights. he's still a bit too young for that.
    Bad advice, man. Free weights will give him a stronger foundation than doing mad cable curlz.
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    **** I always get this kind of oposition on BB forums.


    There's no rush. Play it safe and no free weights until he's had the majority of his growth.
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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    **** I always get this kind of oposition on BB forums.


    There's no rush. Play it safe and no free weights until he's had the majority of his growth.
    Well until you give me proof that free weights stunts your growth then your wrong. Ive read books to where thats been stated that its just a myth. It doesnt. I have quite a few friends who have lifted hard since the 5th grade...all of them in tip top shape, at least 5'11, and decked out in muscle.
    Long term goals are extremely important, but short term goals get you there.

    When it comes to bodybuilding you get exactly what you put in.

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    hes building up for rugby. hes already six foot and 141 pounds. he doesnt really have much shape but he has a bit of potential i think!
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    Originally Posted by fog15 View Post
    Well until you give me proof that free weights stunts your growth then your wrong. Ive read books to where thats been stated that its just a myth. It doesnt. I have quite a few friends who have lifted hard since the 5th grade...all of them in tip top shape, at least 5'11, and decked out in muscle.
    I'm not going to back it with anything but common sense.

    Is it really worth the risk of injury, however small it is, just to get a few years headstart on a hobby that's filled with vanity. My point is that you can push yourself that hard, but you're going to pay for it sooner or later.
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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    **** I always get this kind of oposition on BB forums.


    There's no rush. Play it safe and no free weights until he's had the majority of his growth.
    There's a damn good reason you run into opposition, because you're wrong.

    The risk of injury when using the correct weight, good form, and if the exercise necessitates it a spotter is absolutely negligible. Much less than driving, riding a bike in a city, or playing sports.
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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    I'm not going to back it with anything but common sense.

    Is it really worth the risk of injury, however small it is, just to get a few years headstart on a hobby that's filled with vanity. My point is that you can push yourself that hard, but you're going to pay for it sooner or later.
    hes doin it for his love of rugby and he has a chance of goin sumwhere in it. And theres a risk of injury in everysport. He broke his collar bone this year and i tore the ligaments in mi left ankle. It comes with the sport
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    Originally Posted by Govithoy View Post
    There's a damn good reason you run into opposition, because you're wrong.

    The risk of injury when using the correct weight, good form, and if the exercise necessitates it a spotter is absolutely negligible. Much less than driving, riding a bike in a city, or playing sports.
    And it doesn't help that most BBs are pretty extreme in their views.

    And sure the risk of injury is less if they stay smart, but my point is, is the risk worth it. Sure you can do it, but is it worth it.
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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    And it doesn't help that most BBs are pretty extreme in their views.

    And sure the risk of injury is less if they stay smart, but my point is, is the risk worth it. Sure you can do it, but is it worth it.
    Absolutely. It will strongly boost athletic performance and not only get him into serious physical shape when he's in HS so he can not only breeze through the tryouts, but actually do very well on the team(s) when he plays.

    He'll be exponentially times healthier than any of his classmates.

    Rugby is far more "dangerous" (eg, likely to cause injury) than lifting.
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    thnx for all the help guys
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    Drek?

    What is better, lifting in biomechanical natural motions?

    Or locking yourself into one plane of motion wich is dangerous and stressful and places the centre of gravity incorrectly on the body./

    Want to look after hit health? Better off doing freeweights.

    Research before you talk
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    injury risk is higher with machines, atleast over time. Machines force your joints to use the machines ROM, which isent your joints natrual ROM. that can quickly cause overuse injuries and joint problems. Aslong as he uses good form with free weights and doesnt let his ego guide the weight he uses, he will be fine.

    Besides any sport the kid getts into has a chanse of injury, fotball, soccer, baseball, everything. People tend to get all crazy when a young person wants to start training with weights because its so dangeoraus. Well, i dont think its much more dangeoraus than other sports kids play all the time.

    Just remember that since your muscles arent fully "evolved" yet, you wont have the big strenght gains that will come when you reach your late teens and puberty is over. And this whole "muscles not fully evolved makes it dangeoraus" is crap, it just means progress will be a bit slower than if they were ready evolved.
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    Originally Posted by Drek View Post
    **** I always get this kind of oposition on BB forums.


    There's no rush. Play it safe and no free weights until he's had the majority of his growth.

    No.
    Free weights all the way. They will not hurt him.
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    fullbody, nothing ridiculous small weights but focus ALOT more on the squeeze-stretch full contractions and ROM nice and slow too, that will mean hell feel it alot more and not have to worry about injurying himself too much in the first 1-2 months... i say after 2 months you can start kicking his ass...
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    Originally Posted by no7beast View Post
    Recently my little brother has been taking intrest in weights. I'm just wondering whether it would be better for a younger person to start off on a split or a full body workout?
    I would start with full body, light weight, sticking to 10-12 reps per set, about 3 sets each exercise. Biggest thing for a new lifter is technique. Technique is the most important aspect right now. occasionally bump the reps up to12-20 range after a couple months. Dot work on power for the first 6 months or so until they have gotten used to lifting consistently. Also Power will be important after they have gone through a plateau. You need to go through a plateau to realize that hard work is involved in this. You need to then learn what exercises work best for you, in this case him, and you need time for that, before you get into power.
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