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Old 07-23-2007, 10:03 PM   #1
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Question Best For Lats!!!!

Which one is more effective for lats , lats pull down or Barbell rows.
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:21 PM   #2
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Old 07-23-2007, 10:43 PM   #3
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yeah lat pulldowns are gonna give you more width i would say, but you absolutely 100% should be doing both
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Old 07-23-2007, 11:45 PM   #4
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Lat pulls will for sure help the lats more. But as an overall exercise BB rows own. But still Pullups>both for lats.
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:25 AM   #5
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In a simple answer, both. Effective is a broad term. They will both get you results, but they hit different areas of the lat belly. Vertical pulls generally are better for width, as they hit the upper lat area responsible for the v-taper. Rows tend to give thickness to the lats.

Not saying that those answers are absolutes. It's possible to get wide with rows. You should do both to have both a vertical and horizontal pull in your arsenal. Personally, I don't get results with BB rows, so I do t-bars, db rows, and lat shrugs. There's plenty of lat exercises out there; no need to just pick one, as there is no single greatest. They all have their pros and cons
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Old 07-24-2007, 12:39 AM   #7
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In a simple answer, both. Effective is a broad term. They will both get you results, but they hit different areas of the lat belly. Vertical pulls generally are better for width, as they hit the upper lat area responsible for the v-taper. Rows tend to give thickness to the lats.

Not saying that those answers are absolutes. It's possible to get wide with rows. You should do both to have both a vertical and horizontal pull in your arsenal. Personally, I don't get results with BB rows, so I do t-bars, db rows, and lat shrugs. There's plenty of lat exercises out there; no need to just pick one, as there is no single greatest. They all have their pros and cons
Totally agree, I was going to say the same. Repped (I also do pullups with a wide grip for width)
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Totally agree, I was going to say the same. Repped (I also do pullups with a wide grip for width)
Have you tried rack chins for width? I've been doing them for a while now. Great exercise to have in your arsenal
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Old 07-24-2007, 02:32 AM   #9
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i voted for the barbell rows.
the pullups and the pulldowns are great exercises (i love them, really), but my lats started growing only after i started rowing with the barbell. although by that time i was doing quite a lot of dumbbell rows and cable rows, it was the barbell rows that made the difference, even with less poundage.

but, of course, as all of the above posters said, it's best to have both types of movements.
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Old 07-24-2007, 04:17 AM   #10
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I'm leaning towards lat pull downs because of their simplicity. Of course, if you can hit the rows better than you can definitely pack on some solid mass.

I do both. I'd like to fill in my lower lats and add more thickness... I'm talking about Franco Columbo thickness and insertions... only thing in my way is genetics.
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Lat pulldowns for width and rows for thickness...so my vote was lat pulldowns.
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BB rows, pulldowns suck. If pullups were the other option though, id choose them.
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they really do 2 different things.. Lat pulls are gonna add the width, to where rows will add the thickness.. Both are necessary
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Wait, are dumbell rows not better for hitting the lats than barbell rows? Overall, I do not think that barbell rows are that great at hitting the lats, the only time I feel my lets getting worked with them is when I use my lats to control the weight on its decent.
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Wait, are dumbell rows not better for hitting the lats than barbell rows? Overall, I do not think that barbell rows are that great at hitting the lats, the only time I feel my lets getting worked with them is when I use my lats to control the weight on its decent.
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I agree...
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what a dumb thing to say
not as dumb as chins for biceps = ghey...
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:44 AM   #23
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not as dumb as chins for biceps = ghey...
let me know when you figure out how to get big arms

until then, not interested in your opinions on them

thanks!
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let me know when you figure out how to get big arms

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I would have to disagree. Personally, I think CG chins are gnarly for biceps
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Same here, Close grip under hand all the way.
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my favorite new lat exercise is taking a hammer grip handle ( the one used on cable rows) and putting it on a pullup bar and doing pullups that way

i like it bc its the closest grip possible and i really feel it in my lats

also you have a shorter range of motion at the top so it takes out the biceps at the top IMO giving you all lats

plus you can do alot more reps on this and add alot more weight
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pulldown is my favorite....no pull down= no back dayfor me!
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wait, so chins arent good for arms?
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