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    Can Lays Salt & Vinegar chips be good for you?

    Before you guys say no, let me try to prove why it "could" be good. I'm not saying this should be a replacement of oatmeal; infact chips should be avoided on any diet weather bulking or cutting. I just wanna see if you guys can explain why it is still bad even with all the benifits I will post.

    Lays Salt and Vinegar Chips
    Serving of 17 chips
    Caloires 150
    Total Fat 10G
    Saturated Fat 1G
    Sodium 380mg
    Potassium 280mg
    Total Carbohydrates 15g
    Fiber 1g
    Sugars 1g
    Protein 2g
    vitamins- C 10%, Iron2%, Thiamin 2%, Niacin 4%, Phosphorus 2%, Zinc 2%, Magnesium 2%, Vitamin B6 8%, Riboflavin 2%, Vitamin E 10%

    Benefits
    1.) Lays Sunflower Oil Salt and Vinegar chips contain good fats. Out of 10 Grams only 1 gram is bad. Your diet should be less then 33% bad fats. With these chips only 1/10 of the chips are bad. Only 1g of saturated and 0 trans. The rest are from Polyunsaturated (3g) and Monounsaturated (6g)

    2.) These chips contain lots of sodium. Bad for you ofcourse but this can be negated with lots of water. (except it will still raise your blood pressure either way...)

    3.) The chips contain Potassium 280mg.

    4.) There is a little protein although you won't have the entire chain of amino acids. The entire bag is 22grams. Better proteins should always come from meats.

    5.) Theres vitamins and minerals.

    6.) Last but not least the carbs. This is the one that is going to be debated. The carbohydrates in these chips are horrible coming from potatoes. "Potatoes are often broadly classified as ?high? on the glycemic index (GI) and thus are frequently excluded from the diets of individuals trying to follow a ?low GI? eating regimen." However, these chips contain large amounts of vinegar which actually lower the GI of foods and there is 1 gram of fiber that can also lower the GI a little bit. "adding vinegar for example, will lower the GI. The presence of fat or soluble dietary fibre can slower gastric emptying rate thus lowering the GI."

    What do you think?
    1.) Are these the best chips to eat if you decide to cheat?
    2.) Will the vinegar and 1 gram of dietary fiber negate the horrible high GI of the potatos (which is the main incredient)?
    3.) Can these actually be a good post-workout food?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index
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    If you're gonna eat chips, there are whole grain and multi grain types available, but the proteins in chips are normally not full or complete chain proteins and are not equivalent to higher quality proteins found in other foods, in a nutshell don't eat chips. However, you've made some valid points but it isn't really enough to justify eating them while on a serious diet. There are a ton of other healthier ways to get healthy fats and carbs from potatoes, and protein.
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    Originally Posted by JHart666 View Post
    If you're gonna eat chips, there are whole grain and multi grain types available, but the proteins in chips are normally not full or complete chain proteins and are not equivalent to higher quality proteins found in other foods, in a nutshell don't eat chips. However, you've made some valid points but it isn't really enough to justify eating them while on a serious diet. There are a ton of other healthier ways to get healthy fats and carbs from potatoes, and protein.
    They should make whole grain salt and vinegar chips! Good points posted. And of course there are healthier ways to get the fats, carbs, and proteins in a serious diet. Proteins- Meats, Fish, Carbs- oatmeal, brown rice, Fats- Almonds, nuts. Thanks for posting.
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    No prob thanks for at least showing the ability to think and try and figure some stuff out on your own. That's the first step.
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    Originally Posted by JHart666 View Post
    No prob thanks for at least showing the ability to think and try and figure some stuff out on your own. That's the first step.
    Whats the next

    Any other opinions? thought this would make for a good discussion
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    Sorry man, but this is a stretch... if you count this as a cheat meal, then okay. But these are not healthy.

    -The carbs are refined and processed.

    -The protein is going to be incomplete. You need full chains to build muscles. There is protein in some beers... doesn't mean it is going to help you out.

    -These are not good fats! They may list only 1 gram of saturated fat, but this simply means 1g before they fried the chips. Sunflower oil is actually not very good to cook with because it is not very stable. It is about 2/3 polyunsaturated fat and is therefore much more prone to damage from heat and light than something like olive oil, which is about 75% monounsaturated.

    The best oils to cook with are Coconut oil and olive oil. Believe it or not, but butter would probably be better to cook with than Sunflower oil. The idea that this is healthy is a marketing scam.
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    Originally Posted by austinjt View Post
    Sorry man, but this is a stretch... if you count this as a cheat meal, then okay. But these are not healthy.

    -The carbs are refined and processed.

    -The protein is going to be incomplete. You need full chains to build muscles. There is protein in some beers... doesn't mean it is going to help you out.

    -These are not good fats! They may list only 1 gram of saturated fat, but this simply means 1g before they fried the chips. Sunflower oil is actually not very good to cook with because it is not very stable. It is about 2/3 polyunsaturated fat and is therefore much more prone to damage from heat and light than something like olive oil, which is about 75% monounsaturated.

    The best oils to cook with are Coconut oil and olive oil. Believe it or not, but butter would probably be better to cook with than Sunflower oil. The idea that this is healthy is a marketing scam.
    Good points. Didn't think about how it was cooked or possible marketing scams. I'll invent the healthy chip!!

    For a cheat meal, I love these.
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    Originally Posted by austinjt View Post
    Sorry man, but this is a stretch... if you count this as a cheat meal, then okay. But these are not healthy.

    -The carbs are refined and processed.

    -The protein is going to be incomplete. You need full chains to build muscles. There is protein in some beers... doesn't mean it is going to help you out.

    -These are not good fats! They may list only 1 gram of saturated fat, but this simply means 1g before they fried the chips. Sunflower oil is actually not very good to cook with because it is not very stable. It is about 2/3 polyunsaturated fat and is therefore much more prone to damage from heat and light than something like olive oil, which is about 75% monounsaturated.

    The best oils to cook with are Coconut oil and olive oil. Believe it or not, but butter would probably be better to cook with than Sunflower oil.The idea that this is healthy is a marketing scam.
    since potatoes dont have very much fat in them to begin with im guessing the fat comes from the oil its fried in. the fat listed on the nutrition label is real, are you saying your body wont use it because of the heat? by your rationale people who cook with olive oil wont benefit from consuming it after its been heated. cmon now

    poly and monounsaturated fat is good for you, it doesnt matter where they come from.

    also sat fats arent bad for you. you probably didnt know that in 2007 though..
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    Why should chips be avoided on a cut? I would not eat these on a cutting day if:

    I did not fulfill my protein requirements for the day, and by consuming chips I would not have enough calories left to eat more protein.
    It pushed me over my desired caloric intake for the day.
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    Originally Posted by austinjt View Post
    Sorry man, but this is a stretch... if you count this as a cheat meal, then okay. But these are not healthy.

    -The carbs are refined and processed.

    -The protein is going to be incomplete. You need full chains to build muscles. There is protein in some beers... doesn't mean it is going to help you out.

    -These are not good fats! They may list only 1 gram of saturated fat, but this simply means 1g before they fried the chips. Sunflower oil is actually not very good to cook with because it is not very stable. It is about 2/3 polyunsaturated fat and is therefore much more prone to damage from heat and light than something like olive oil, which is about 75% monounsaturated.

    The best oils to cook with are Coconut oil and olive oil. Believe it or not, but butter would probably be better to cook with than Sunflower oil. The idea that this is healthy is a marketing scam.
    Good post... the fats have been transformed into transfats from frying.
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    they're great i eat them every couple days, not more than 1-2 servings worth though. they're high in calories, low in protein, and not very filling

    chips have been labeled as the least healthy food, the reason being people dont buy 8 bags of 150 calories, they buy one bag of 1600 calories and they "accidentally" eat the whole bag in one sitting...

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    I've tried the multigrain Pringles before and they weren't very good.
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    Originally Posted by synthetic View Post
    Good post... the fats have been transformed into transfats from frying.
    are you being sarcastic?
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    are you being sarcastic?
    no, you are correct
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