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    Not feeling my lats the day after

    Normally the day after a workout i feel my muscles ache a little bit, like my chest or biceps...but iv never felt my lats be sore. Does any1 else find this?
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    no all mu muscles ache but my biceps
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    No i don't usually feel it in my lats either. I do if have taken a break for a while. Jus keep doing the pullups and increasing the weight
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    Try working them in a diffent order.like if you work your bis first work your back first.
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    If your lats are growing , who cares if you are feeling it or not , if you want lat soreness do 4 second negatives on weighted pullups / chins and rows
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    I have some big lats. Some Bruce Lee **** lol. Probably because im Asian. HAHA. I always feel my lats after I work out. I have a naturally strong back and go heavy. Im 5'7 solid 140.

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    Lat pull downs with a grip width a little wider than shoulder width

    Underhand pull downs shoulder width grip

    Vbar pull downs

    Pullups

    I do three sets for each exercise, rep range from 6-8
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    don't worry about feeling. if you're growing slowly/getting stronger, you're doing it right. if you arn't, well then you arn't doing it right.
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    I used to have the same problem, I found that doing pullups/pulldowns with your elbows flared out really helps target the lats
    Remember: Go wide to get wide. Chins are good for the lower lats becuase they let you go with a good, full range of motion, but for instant width, go for wide grip. I do pullups till failure, I'm kinda weak so after the 2nd set or so I do assisted. But I'm progressing and I'll soon be able to do them unassisted.

    Remember: pullups, wide grip, elbows flared out. Not behind your head though, that'll give you problems with your RC. Squeeze your shoulder blades at the top of the movement.

    Is this lats, or middle back? I remeber to hit my lats hard, and then do rows for thickness. My back feels good and sore the next day.

    Try a pullover machine as well.
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    Originally Posted by EGun247
    I used to have the same problem, I found that doing pullups/pulldowns with your elbows flared out really helps target the lats
    Remember: Go wide to get wide. Chins are good for the lower lats becuase they let you go with a good, full range of motion, but for instant width, go for wide grip. I do pullups till failure, I'm kinda weak so after the 2nd set or so I do assisted. But I'm progressing and I'll soon be able to do them unassisted.

    Remember: pullups, wide grip, elbows flared out. Not behind your head though, that'll give you problems with your RC. Squeeze your shoulder blades at the top of the movement.

    Is this lats, or middle back? I remeber to hit my lats hard, and then do rows for thickness. My back feels good and sore the next day.

    Try a pullover machine as well.
    that's just a myth - wider != wider lats. wider = less rom, leverage, more chance of r/c injury.
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    i made the exact same thread about this like 2 weeks ago. at the end of the contraction, squeeze your shoulder blades together like you're trying to hold a pencil between them. now dont say "yeah they go together because im pulling back"... u need to conciously squeeze as hard as u can to get the best contraction. hows that, $AJ?
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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    that's just a myth - wider != wider lats. wider = less rom, leverage, more chance of r/c injury.
    Really? How wide should my grip be? When i do them i go wide as the door frame(palms out)... Palms facing i go shoulder width.
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    Red face hmmm...

    Of all muscles my lats experience the most soreness...

    When i wake up the day after a back workout they are so tender and beaten up its a good ol' feeling. I concentrate on getting the most stretch posssible when doing lat-pulldowns, rows and/or chins etc. Also to finish off my back workout i just hang from a chin bar for as long as possible. But i guess everyones different, some groups of muscles dont get sore for me either dependes on the person.
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    Originally Posted by Ez_Motion
    Really? How wide should my grip be? When i do them i go wide as the door frame(palms out)... Palms facing i go shoulder width.
    shoulder width or a few inchs past is fine.
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    shoulder width or a few inchs past is fine.
    Always shoulder width IMO
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    It's amazing, but when I train my lats, I feel my lats get torqued. I feel them squeeze all the way down my back to the origins on my spine. And when I'm done, it feels like an electrical charge is buzzing through them for quite a while. That's very satisfying. The growth is even better.

    And when someone tries my exercise for the first time, they say they've never felt that in their lats before. That's because most "lat" exercises are really biceps exercises, and poor lat exercises.
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    Originally Posted by ATrainer
    It's amazing, but when I train my lats, I feel my lats get torqued. I feel them squeeze all the way down my back to the origins on my spine. And when I'm done, it feels like an electrical charge is buzzing through them for quite a while. That's very satisfying. The growth is even better.

    And when someone tries my exercise for the first time, they say they've never felt that in their lats before. That's because most "lat" exercises are really biceps exercises, and poor lat exercises.
    He's right. His lat exercise has blown my and my training partner's lats up, I've personally encountered more growth of them than with any other exercise. while im on the subject ATrainer, is it imperative to remain vertical whilst performing this or is a slight angle ok?
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    Originally Posted by $AJ
    that's just a myth - wider != wider lats. wider = less rom, leverage, more chance of r/c injury.
    Wide grip IS less range of motion. So? You are a MAJOR proponent of "rack pulls" or PARTIAL deadlift, and of partial rom dips etc. So, do you like partial rom or not?

    The wide grip: a. pulls the scapula out b. makes the UPPER fibers of the lats/teres pull in a straighter line. The lats are a fan shaped muscle like the pectorals.
    c. removes the leverage of the humerus flexors, forcing the lats to do more work.

    That is why guys like Dorian Yates, Lee Haney and Ronnie Coleman, while using rows and narrow grip pulldowns/chins to work the lat BELLY (thickness) have ALL acknowledged that they LOSE width when they have stopped doing wide grip back exercises in the past, and have come back to them.
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    Originally Posted by GGHT
    He's right. His lat exercise has blown my and my training partner's lats up, I've personally encountered more growth of them than with any other exercise. while im on the subject ATrainer, is it imperative to remain vertical whilst performing this or is a slight angle ok?
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