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    bear with me. I am asking if when trying for positions in the military do you think that the recruiters are influenced by your physical stature? (hieght weight) I asked here because I thought this was the best place to get information.
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    I believe there is a height requirement for certain positions in the military, like MP and other guard positions.
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    Originally Posted by CAE2008 View Post
    bear with me. I am asking if when trying for positions in the military do you think that the recruiters are influenced by your physical stature? (hieght weight) I asked here because I thought this was the best place to get information.
    I don't think so, they are numbers driven and they mostly go off of your asvab score. There are some physical standards for certain fields though. What are your stats?
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    Here's the height and weight charts for the Army.

    http://usmilitary.about.com/od/army/l/blmaleweight.htm

    They're not strict. The military needs people. Special units like the Old Guard have very tight requirements for height and weight, but they're meant to look good, and they can be selective. Otherwise, as long as you can pass the minimum standards of fitness, you'll be fine.

    Hope that's what you were looking for.
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    Did some recruiting while in USMC.
    Main thing was a passing ASVAB score, no serious health problems, no habitual drug use, and a reasonably clear criminal record.
    I was 18 years old when I enlisted. I weighed 147lbs and was assigned to a tank unit. I only weighed a bit more than the m2 50 caliber machinegun I was assigned to.
    When I complained to my squad leader about how heavy it was he told me,"Don't worry kid, once you drag it around for 6 months it gets lighter."

    Here's a pic of me at 19, carrying an m249 SAW. This was during a break, somewhere between mile 8 and 10 of a 27 mile stroll. It was kind of a running joke in my unit to give the skinniest guys, the heaviest guns.
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    Originally Posted by CAE2008 View Post
    bear with me. I am asking if when trying for positions in the military do you think that the recruiters are influenced by your physical stature? (hieght weight) I asked here because I thought this was the best place to get information.

    Hi CAE2008,
    CAE2008.... That's not a name.... so I will just call you.... Kid.

    Ok Kid, Here is the real deal on recruiters.... They don't care a damn thing about you except that you are alive and breathing and can pass the entry tests. All you are is a number to them and money in their pocket. They will (LIE) tell you anything to get you to enlist. It's their job. What you need to know is the only thing that counts about what they tell you is what they put down in WRITING and that they have to sign it to make it an official contract. If whatever they tell you is not in writing then it will not happen. Don't let them BS you, get all promises in Writing before you sign anything. Considering you are signing your LIFE away get a lawyer to go over any enlistment documents you are thinking about signing, "Before" you sign them.

    You want a guaranteed job.... Get it in writing.
    You want a guaranteed Station / Post / Base.... Get it in writing.
    You want a guaranteed Sign Up Bonus.... Get it in writing.
    You want a guaranteed College Fund.... Get it in writing.

    I hope you are getting my message Kid. The only one looking out for you is yourself. The military is at war and needs bodies to replace the people getting killed. It is just that simple. So think about what you are doing. There is nothing wrong with serving your country, I did. I am a veteran of the U.S. Air Force and The U.S. Army Reserves. If I had it to do over I would join up again even now. I just wanted to give it to you straight with no BS so you can make the best decision with your life.

    Whatever you do I wish you the best of luck.... Just remember to keep your head down and your ass low to the ground!

    Take care,
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    One last thing about recruiters.... Just think of them as Con Men and you're their Mark.... They have been playing the game for a long time and you haven't so keep your guard up!

    Just so you know, the above may sound like sour grapes but it is not.... I was not screwed over by my recruiter because someone I trusted told me the information that I have just told you. It was the best advice I ever got.
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    Originally Posted by farsscf View Post
    I don't think so, they are numbers driven and they mostly go off of your asvab score. There are some physical standards for certain fields though. What are your stats?
    Exactly - as long as you are not a fat slob, they are pretty much only interested in what you have between your ears (Brain). Of course, you need to be in a certain condition, but they will "mold" you in boot camp.
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    Originally Posted by crow223 View Post
    Did some recruiting while in USMC.
    Main thing was a passing ASVAB score, no serious health problems, no habitual drug use, and a reasonably clear criminal record.
    I was 18 years old when I enlisted. I weighed 147lbs and was assigned to a tank unit. I only weighed a bit more than the m2 50 caliber machinegun I was assigned to.
    When I complained to my squad leader about how heavy it was he told me,"Don't worry kid, once you drag it around for 6 months it gets lighter."

    Here's a pic of me at 19, carrying an m249 SAW. This was during a break, somewhere between mile 8 and 10 of a 27 mile stroll. It was kind of a running joke in my unit to give the skinniest guys, the heaviest guns.
    Yeah, when I was in the Saws and 60's always went to the skinniest guys or the girls. I never understood that.
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    Originally Posted by crow223 View Post
    Did some recruiting while in USMC.
    Main thing was a passing ASVAB score, no serious health problems, no habitual drug use, and a reasonably clear criminal record.
    I was 18 years old when I enlisted. I weighed 147lbs and was assigned to a tank unit. I only weighed a bit more than the m2 50 caliber machinegun I was assigned to.
    When I complained to my squad leader about how heavy it was he told me,"Don't worry kid, once you drag it around for 6 months it gets lighter."

    Here's a pic of me at 19, carrying an m249 SAW. This was during a break, somewhere between mile 8 and 10 of a 27 mile stroll. It was kind of a running joke in my unit to give the skinniest guys, the heaviest guns.
    Not always the smallest guys - I always carried a 60, extrat ammo and the mortar plate at the start - and them whem lame asses dropped out I ended up with their 16s as well!
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    Not always the smallest guys - I always carried a 60, extrat ammo and the mortar plate at the start - and them whem lame asses dropped out I ended up with their 16s as well!
    yeah, but you are a beast
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    Originally Posted by CAE2008 View Post
    bear with me. I am asking if when trying for positions in the military do you think that the recruiters are influenced by your physical stature? (height weight) I asked here because I thought this was the best place to get information.
    Some good info posted so far. I am a honorably discharged US Navy vet. Brother Steel is giving it to you straight.

    Don't worry if there's a weight issue. Boot camp will fix that problem. The military will give you a wavier if they feel the problem can be fixed.

    Get in there and serve your country. I gave 4 years of my life to it and wouldn't have it any other way. I'm a better man because of it. Would I join again...........Hell NO!
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    Originally Posted by newmexico123 View Post
    Not always the smallest guys - I always carried a 60, extrat ammo and the mortar plate at the start - and them whem lame asses dropped out I ended up with their 16s as well!


    Have to agree on this one. My husband was 220lbs when he was 19 and carried the 60.

    If you have a high ASVAB score they might want to pressure you into an MOS that you don't want to do. As stated before "GET IT ALL IN WRITING"

    All the men in my family (both sides) have served in the military. I was an active duty Army wife for 8 years. Wore alot of hats durring that time and learned alot. Wouldn't give it up for anything. My husband enjoyed his time in and he is also an Army brat.
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    Originally Posted by newmexico123 View Post
    Not always the smallest guys - I always carried a 60, extrat ammo and the mortar plate at the start - and them whem lame asses dropped out I ended up with their 16s as well!
    YEAH!! I humped and jumped "The Pig" (23 lbs without ammo) many a time....
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    [QUOTE=Joe Go;68494103] Boot camp will fix that problem.

    Oh yea, among other things.
    Got some chuckles out of some of the responses.

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    Originally Posted by Joe Go View Post
    Get in there and serve your country. I gave 4 years of my life to it and wouldn't have it any other way. I'm a better man because of it. Would I join again...........Hell NO!
    I'm in total concurrance here too.
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