How to convert prohormones into real steroids!

[Patrick Arnold]

There will be a book coming out soon detailing how to take prohormones (diones and diols) and convert them to active hormones (i.e. test, nandrolone, DHT) using simple chemistry

The procedures will be outlined in great detail, and formulation tips for the finished products will be addressed

For more information on this please email me at




thanks

[pu12en12g]

Why would we want to do this ?

Would a test transdermal be better than a 1-test transdermal ? (Serious question)

[MurphMan]

Why would we want to do this ?

Would a test transdermal be better than a 1-test transdermal ? (Serious question)

That's like asking, "Is a Nandrolone transdermal better than a Winstrol transdermal?"

They are far from being closely related in terms of physiological effects.

[Ming]

Very interesting to say the least.

[ballbags1]

*subscribes to thread*

[Patrick Arnold]

Why would we want to do this ?

Would a test transdermal be better than a 1-test transdermal ? (Serious question)

boy i really dunno to be honest

[matpal]

Pat; are there no legal ramifications to you for doing this?

[Patrick Arnold]

Pat; are there no legal ramifications to you for doing this?

by the time the book is out, it will be telling people how to transform one controlled substance into another


what can be illegal about that?


people should be buying their bulk now. ** NO ADS **

[jverch]

Damn...this book would've been awesome if the ban wasn't impending...still sounds kool.
Hmmmm...and I used to think chemistry sucked in college...who knew it could be so practical .

[j_neatherlin]

Why would we want to do this ?

Would a test transdermal be better than a 1-test transdermal ? (Serious question)

I don't necessarily think so, however I would be willing to bet that a test dermal would be better than a 4AD dermal. or that a nandrolone dermal would be better than a nordiol dermal. or that a DHT dermal would be better than a 5AA dermal.

**** I wonder how much 5AA powder costs?

[NuggzTheNinja]

I love the image of seeing a 5'10 300 lb 4% bf guy going into a store and buying this book, "for educational purposes only".

[Douche_Nutz]

Patrick, would you mind posting a list of which compounds can be converted and what they can be converted into?

[bigGUNS04]

Im very interested PA, r u gonna help me?! haha

[lvtrojan]

Patrick, would you mind posting a list of which compounds can be converted and what they can be converted into?

Actually something like that would help us to know exactly which PH's to stock up on.

[DRACOMACHINE]

Actually something like that would help us to know exactly which PH's to stock up on.

I remember Patrick saying 4-AD can be turned into Test. But at that time he was unwilling to go into detail.

[reconstrukti0n]

**** i want to get some ph's but i have no clue what are the best ones to take. what give the best results with least side effects, or what are the best ph's period that if taken under the right conditions dont **** you up. i kno this is a ****ty question but only have access to a computer at very limited times. im doin research as i type this. id appreciate the help.

[Aerius]

Pat, how is that possible. Turning one compound into another using simple chemistry? 4AD to Test? Email me about that>

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[DRACOMACHINE]

Pat, how is that possible. Turning one compound into another using simple chemistry? 4AD to Test? Email me about that>

tomasq4athotmail.com

I could be wrong, but if the liver can do it, so can a scientist.

[lakevillethor2]

I could be wrong, but if the liver can do it, so can a scientist. 4AD becomes Test in the body. 1-AD becomes 1-Test. Every pro-hormone has a hormone it gets changed into once inside the body.

Something seems a bit strange about this. I would tread lightly. I already emailed PA but this does not sound like him at all. The same guy who did not release a methylated compound, or 1-test for that matter, because he was afraid of legality issues (the stuff did not exist natually in the food chain) is now going to tell you how to make legal compounds (which are soon to be illegal) into illegal ones? Something doesn't add up here...

[w i c k e d]

Something seems a bit strange about this. I would tread lightly. I already emailed PA but this does not sound like him at all. The same guy who did not release a methylated compound, or 1-test for that matter, because he was afraid of legality issues (the stuff did not exist natually in the food chain) is now going to tell you how to make legal compounds (which are soon to be illegal) into illegal ones? Something doesn't add up here...

Yeah that is pretty wierd. Have you seen all the other threads that have been started as well? Maybe his account got hacked D:

[pu12en12g]

Maybe the FDA hacked his email

[Bobo]

Something seems a bit strange about this. I would tread lightly. I already emailed PA but this does not sound like him at all. The same guy who did not release a methylated compound, or 1-test for that matter, because he was afraid of legality issues (the stuff did not exist natually in the food chain) is now going to tell you how to make legal compounds (which are soon to be illegal) into illegal ones? Something doesn't add up here...

Finally. I can't believe it took people so long to realize this.

[dio]

I think it's on the level. He's been mentioning this subject since the ban was finalized.

[j_neatherlin]

i don't see why it's a big deal. it's just information on how to do some chemistry. i don't think anyone can get into trouble for this sort of thing. ****, you can know how to make a bomb, just so long as you don't go around making them.

plus, the e-mail addy is @ proviant?

[Matt96teg]

Something seems a bit strange about this. I would tread lightly. I already emailed PA but this does not sound like him at all. The same guy who did not release a methylated compound, or 1-test for that matter, because he was afraid of legality issues (the stuff did not exist natually in the food chain) is now going to tell you how to make legal compounds (which are soon to be illegal) into illegal ones? Something doesn't add up here...

He said by the time the book is out (after PH's are banned) it will be showing you how to make an illegal compound into another illegal compound...I have no idea if that makes a difference or not.

[Bobo]

I think it's on the level. He's been mentioning this subject since the ban was finalized.

It seems out of character for Pat to ask anyone to email him, especially about this subject and especially on a board with 60k members. Even if its legit, its damn strange.

[Patrick Arnold]

Patrick, would you mind posting a list of which compounds can be converted and what they can be converted into?

4-Ad to testosterone

nor4-ad to nandrolone

nor4-adione to nandrolone

1,4-ADD to boldenone

5AA to DHT

maybe more

[j_neatherlin]

...need...to find...1,4add powder....

[lakevillethor2]

i don't see why it's a big deal. it's just information on how to do some chemistry. i don't think anyone can get into trouble for this sort of thing. ****, you can know how to make a bomb, just so long as you don't go around making them.

plus, the e-mail addy is @ proviant?

Bro's I think you're missing the point here. Mr. Holier than thou who won't do anything that would ill-effect the credibility of his empire is now going to realease something like this....I am saying that it just doesn't sound like something he would do...The hypocrisy is starting to get thick here if he really does go through with this....

[Patrick Arnold]

Something seems a bit strange about this. I would tread lightly. I already emailed PA but this does not sound like him at all. The same guy who did not release a methylated compound, or 1-test for that matter, because he was afraid of legality issues (the stuff did not exist natually in the food chain) is now going to tell you how to make legal compounds (which are soon to be illegal) into illegal ones? Something doesn't add up here...

whatever