Hi,
I am a little confused about this diet so I wanted to get a few things cleared up
Correct me if I am wrong but this is how the diet works:
Sunday - Friday: Eat a really low amount of carbs(pretty much none) just fat + protien
Friday - Sat: Carb build up
It says here "Eat fat and protein all day everyday except on workout days because after workouts, you will need to consume strictly just protein—no fat or carbs."
Im confused here, your saying to not eat fat/protein on workout days? So does that mean all you eat is carbs on your workout days.....??
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Thread: Step By Step Keto Diet Plan!
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07-13-2009, 10:53 AM #1621
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07-13-2009, 11:28 AM #1622
haha that is a little confusing how they word it but yes u are definitely on the right track. It means after you work out take your whey protein and water only (so not fat right after working out). 60-90 minutes you can continue eating fats and the very little carbs (under 30g/per day but for the first week I would try to stay under 20g to really shock your body) It may take a little searching to figure out your diet macros, but keto is 65% of your calories from fat, 30% from protein, and 5% from carbs.
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07-13-2009, 12:35 PM #1623
Thanks for your response.
So what is the difference between a low-carb diet and a keto diet? (sorry if this was in the first post)
and are there any effects during the week - during the no carb days? will you feel more tired? What happens if you do not eat sufficient fat/protein but still maintain the 30carb/day limit?
And how important is following the workout schedule you give?
(Working out Mon, Tue, Cardio WEd, Thur, Fri)
So weekends are completly off?
Lastly, you mention eating bacon and other saturated fats, wouldnt that be unhealthy?Last edited by Sircrayon; 07-13-2009 at 12:39 PM.
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07-13-2009, 01:23 PM #1624
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07-15-2009, 09:16 AM #1625
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07-15-2009, 10:06 AM #1626
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07-17-2009, 12:28 PM #1627
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07-17-2009, 01:25 PM #1628
I'd strongly suggest you read the threads stickied at the top of the forum, but here are some quick answers. You don't carb up when you start the diet, you need about two weeks on it first. There are a number of physical symptoms, well documented in the threads. When you aren't eating enough fat you will have to utilize another source of energy, protein. Likely from muscles.
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07-17-2009, 01:37 PM #1629
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07-17-2009, 01:41 PM #1630
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07-20-2009, 04:40 AM #1631
I did this diet for about a week and a half. I was 152 pounds and about 5'6". My reason for doing it was to try to cut down the fat around my stomach and to work towards a six pack. I am moderately toned everywhere else. After a week and a half, my weight dropped to 148. I did lose some fat around the stomach but I also look "smaller" everywhere else. It looks like my arms and chest got smaller too. I was lifting everyday moderately and taking creatine. Some days I would walk 4 miles too but that would be the only time I moved that day so it could have been negligible.
I stopped because that wasn't what I was going for but I still have to try to get a six pack some how!
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07-20-2009, 01:32 PM #1632
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07-20-2009, 02:10 PM #1633
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07-20-2009, 02:11 PM #1634
Whatever works for you. In the first couple of weeks, I would concentrate on weights and not worry about cardio. LISS if you want to do some. HIIT will leave you feeling shattered. But once you are used to keto and your body can run on fat, you'll find you can do HIIT if you want to.
65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-04-2009, 07:26 PM #1635
Ok, here's the way I understand it. (And I am going to stick to a strict 2000 calorie diet to increase fat loss by not taking in as much fat.)
Monday - Friday:
Protein - 125 grams
Protein - 500 calories
Fat - 167 grams
Fat - 1500 calories
Saturday - Sunday (Carb up days):
Carbs - 90 grams
Carbs - 909 calories
Fat - Below 90 grams
Fat - Below 810 calories
Sound about right? I will continue to do my weightlifting routine, along with walking every day to increase fat loss.
Should I definitely see results, and will my body go into ketosis?
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08-05-2009, 10:11 AM #1636
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08-05-2009, 01:08 PM #1637
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08-05-2009, 04:55 PM #1638
If you know your maintenance calories, work from those. Drop a few hundred to create a deficit, then go 30% cals as protein, 65% as fat, and 5% as carbs. As a general rule, 20g of carbs is a good working number.
Or you can work from your lean mass. 1g of protein and 1g of fat per pound of lean mass, and 20g of carbs.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-11-2009, 11:40 PM #1639So here?€™s how it breaks down during the week: Sunday through Friday afternoon , you will follow the low carb diet outlined above. Eat fat and protein all day everyday except on workout days because after workouts, you will need to consume strictly just protein?€”no fat or carbs.
Sorry, I just want to get this right, it's a bit confusing if you're stepping into it for the first time ^^
*edit* NVM, saw that Livingitup44 seems to have answered itLast edited by Aoshi1; 08-12-2009 at 02:14 AM.
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08-12-2009, 04:48 AM #1640
On workout days, you eat normal keto (fat and protein and veg) meals all day long, except for immediate after a weights workout, when you have a protein shake. This should be mainly protein, might have a small amount of high-gi carbs and should have no fat. Wait for 60-90 minutes after this shake, then resume normal keto meals.
65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-12-2009, 10:01 AM #1641
Just an answer I was looking for! Couple quick ones on this. I did make a thread but I am glad you answered in here.
1. Would fruit be ok to consume 30 min pre work and post work out. 15 gram Carb pre 15 gram Post?
2. If I choose to do this should I eliminate my friday Carb up?
Thanks Eileen!That that don't kill me.. can only make me stronger..
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08-12-2009, 10:09 AM #1642
Fruit has the interesting characteristic that it knocks you out of ketosis like lightening. You'd be better with something without fructose like oatmeal or wholegrain bread if you were planning on eating a carb meal before your workout.
However, what is the point of that? Your workout is a great chance to burn mega calories, so why give your body carbs to burn instead? It's one thing if you are competitive, and you have training sessions where you are expected to preform to a certain standard, but if you are lifting to get bigger and stronger and more ripped, then stay on keto and take a slightly longer rest if necessary.
A cup of expresso, possibly with whipped cream or coconut oil before a workout is an alternative.
Normally, you either go TKD (carb meals before workouts, big shake after, no carb-up) or CKD (no carbs before, small whey shake after, regular carb-ups). Not both.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-12-2009, 10:17 AM #1643
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08-12-2009, 10:20 AM #1644
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08-12-2009, 10:33 AM #1645
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08-12-2009, 03:42 PM #1646
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So I used the keto diet calculator on this page http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sclark91.htm . I entered my weight 245lbs, my body fat %-30 and meals per day-6. These are the daily numbers it shot back at me.
protein/day-172grams 689 calories
fat/day- 306grams 3247 calories
This has me reeeeeeaaaaaalllly confused. I thought the % ratio on fat, protein, carbs was supposed to be 65,30, 5. This is showing my fat calories to be over 4x what my protein cals are when it should be roughly doubled correct? What am I missing here?
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08-12-2009, 03:46 PM #1647
That's too high for you. Work out your lean mass, and eat that number of grams of protein and fat a day, pluse 20g of carbs.
That's a bad calculator. You'd be a loooong time trying to cut on those calculators.65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.
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08-12-2009, 04:19 PM #1648
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08-13-2009, 08:31 AM #1649
Just want to make sure this sounds right
I weight 230 with 35%BF
Lean body =149.5
calories protein = 598
2500 total calorie intake per day
1902 calories from fat = 211 grams
Carb loading friday night to sat midnight
149.5lb/2.2=67.95kgX10=679.5 grams of carbs
fat below 67grams during this period
I have a few questions. Are their certian kinds of fat i should eat/avoid? On the first post is says for after workouts protein only no carbs or fat and to do it with a whey shake. Aren't there a good amount of carbs in protein shakes? Also for the workouts. I have a back injury that doesn't allow me to lift heavy weights. I have a herniate T5 and 3 ribs out of place. What kind of workouts are reccommended? I like doing kettlebell circuits with low weight, between 10-25lbs. is that enough of a workout to make this diet work? I would like to get down to around 180
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08-13-2009, 10:07 AM #1650
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