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    Step By Step Keto Diet Plan!

    The Cyclical Ketogenic Diet: True Fat Loss

    In recent media, low carbohydrate diets have been THE fad for almost everybody in America wanting to lose weight. From your secretaries, elementary school teachers, and desk clerks, to bodybuilders, models, actresses, and athletes.

    However, there is a huge difference between those who follow an Atkins plan and those who follow a cyclical ketogenic diet (CKD). Atkins is a low carb plan for those who are quite sedentary, walk maybe 3 times a week at the most, and just follow normal everyday activities. So forget Atkins here. The CKD is for those who’s main concern is true fat loss and muscle preservation—muscle for sports and high intensity activities.

    My opinion for those who practice Atkins is that while they do lose fat, there is much water loss and most importantly muscle loss. Something we athletes do not want. A CKD is a true fat loss diet that works undeniably, if followed properly and strictly. Yes, low carb diets can be hell at first, but after two to three weeks, there have been anecdotal reports from many dieters that the cravings for carbohydrates decrease. This route to fat burning is unlike any traditional diet all the low-fat diet authors and FDA people have been advocating in history.

    I got turned onto this diet a few years back when I got tired of cutting fat and still not being able to lose those last percentage points of bodyfat without losing hard earned muscle. I would start a low-fat diet, and be a either a social misfit (not going out with my friends to party or not going out to eat). Or in the worse case, feel so deprived of delicious junk foods I missed and bail out on the diet all together. One advantage to this diet is that there is no true restrictions on food. One may eat anything labeled a "food"! Well, almost. I’ll explain later.

    How the diet works.

    The science behind the CKD is simple. Carbohydrates in the diet cause an insulin (a "storage" hormone) output in the pancreas. It is used to store glycogen, amino acids into muscles, while causing excess calories to be stored as fat. So common sense asks me, "How can one try to break down fat, when your body is in a storage-type mode?" Difficult to do, indeed. That is why it makes perfect sense for step one to be cutting carbs.

    The next thing that happens in your body is the rise in catecholamines (a "fat mobilizing" hormone), cortisol (a "breakdown" hormone), and growth hormone. Now your body realizes there’s no more carbs to burn for energy, so it must find another energy source: fat.

    This usually happens during a metabolic condition called "ketosis." This is when your liver is out of glycogen and starts to produce ketones (by-products of fatty acids). You can check your status of whether or not you are in ketosis with urinalysis strips you can pick up at any local drug store called "Ketostix." Just urinate and see if it turns color. If so, you have ketones in the urine.

    When the body is fed fat and protein, it will use dietary fat along with bodyfat for energy with protein going towards repair.

    As a side note, there is another reason why this diet makes the most sense to use while keeping muscle. When one follows a high carbohydrate, low-fat, reduced-calorie diet, there’s a point when some bodyfat is burned, but when the body is still in a carbohydrate burning metabolism while trying to lose "weight," it will strip down precious body protein to convert to glucose for energy.

    On the other hand, during fat metabolism, protein cannot be converted into free-fatty acids for energy. Although there is no scientific research done on this, there have been reports from followers that there truly is a "protein-sparing" effect. It makes sense doesn’t it? Where else would the body look for fat energy when all dietary fat is burned? Bodyfat.

    Diet Requirements Mon. to Fri.

    The phrase "working smarter, not harder" applies here more than any diet one has tried. One must fully understand what they must do in order to optimize their goal. To set a CKD up, one cannot just expect to cut all carbs in the diet, train hard, and lose fat! Although some have come up with variations to this plan, the one stated in this article, I have found, has worked for myself (it got me to 6% BF), and other clients I’ve trained to the leanest, hardest they’ve ever been.

    First, to set up the diet, write down your lean mass weight. Not your total weight, dough boy. If you weigh 200, but have 20% bodyfat, your lean mass weight would be around 160 pounds. Multiply this by one, getting your grams of protein requirements for a day. Make sure you eat at least one gram of protein/pound of lean mass! This is important in recovery from workouts and enough nitrogen retention to keep muscle. Next, multiply by four, to get your protein calories. Here, it is 640.

    The rest of your caloric requirements for the day should be fat. Here is the catch: you must eat fat to burn fat. There’s no way around it. There are many advantages to dietary fat on this diet: Feeling of fullness since fat digestion is slow (less hunger), tastes great, and lowers blood glucose levels (lowering insulin and allow all the fat burning hormones to do their job).

    So how much fat? I always recommend starting out with a 500 calorie deficit from your maintenance calories. If you don’t know, it is usually 15 times body weight (full body weight here) depending on an individuals metabolic rate. So here, the example would need 3000 calories a day to maintain weight, and 2500 calories to begin fat loss.

    2500 minus 640 (protein calories) is 1860 which works out to be around 206 fat grams a day. Now as you go deeper into the diet, and find the need to restrict calories more, you must cut fat calories, not protein.

    The Weekend Carb Load

    Since muscle glycogen is the main source of energy for anaerobic exercise such as weight training, we cannot simply deplete all stores while working out and not fill them back up. If that does happen, be rest-assured that the body WILL use protein for fuel then. But this won’t happen on the CKD.

    Your one and a half days of "freedom" allow you to do two things: First, reward your carb cravings from the previous days, allowing you to enjoy pleasures like pizza, pasta, breads, etc. Second, eating these things are physiologically rewarding as insulin levels run high, storing amino acids and carbs, as glycogen, into the depleted muscle allowing you to be able to workout again the following week.

    Your "carb-up" should begin Friday night and last until around midnight Saturday. Now the next important issue to address is how many carbs. Some lucky individuals find that they eat whatever they want for the 24-30 hour time interval and receive perfect glycogen compensation, while others rely on a better statistical number.

    What has been recommended by other authors of the CKD is 10-12 grams of carbs per kilogram of lean mass. Again, time to do math. Our example had 160 pounds of lean mass, so divide that by the conversion factor of 2.2, and we get roughly 73 kg.

    100 Grams of easily digested liquid carbs along with around half as many grams of carbs in protein (here 50) as a whey shake or something of that nature should be taken right after the last workout (which I will address in the workout section of the article) when insulin sensitivity will be at its greatest.

    A few hours later this individual will start to spread the remaining 630 grams of carbs, along with the important number of 160 grams of protein (remember, keep this constant) during the remainder of the compensation period.

    So what about dietary fat? I know you’re reminding yourself, "Didn’t this guy mention pizza?" Yes, I did. And here’s why. During the first 24-30 hours of carbing up, the body will use all dietary carbohydrates to refill glycogen, protein for rebuilding, and get this: fat for energy. Still?

    Just like the previous five and a half days. Makes sense. When all the carbohydrates are being used for more important functions (muscle), what else is there to be used? However, you can’t just eat all the fat you want. Keep grams of fat intake below your body weight in kilograms. Again, here our example will keep is fat below 73 during the carb-fest.

    By anecdotal reports, this should keep fat regain minimal to nil. Keeping fat intake extremely low has even caused some extra fat burning during the carb up!

    As stated before, some dietary fat should be eaten to slow digestion and keep sugar levels stable. Whether it be saturated, unsaturated, or essential fats, is the dieter’s decision. All have nine calories per gram. (Note: there is a claim that essential fatty acids such as flax seed oil increase insulin sensitivity within the muscle cells, in turn, increasing glycogen intake.)

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    So here’s how it breaks down during the week: Sunday through Friday afternoon , you will follow the low carb diet outlined above. Eat fat and protein all day everyday except on workout days because after workouts, you will need to consume strictly just protein—no fat or carbs.

    Some have found to enjoy a protein shake afterwards because they are easily digested. Do whatever works for you. But fat is not logical since you want the protein to fuel the healing process as quickly as possible and fat will only slow it down.

    Friday afternoon, around two hours before your last workout of the week, eat two to three pieces of fruit. This will get your body/liver ready to start the carb loading and give you some energy for that final, dreadful workout (trust me, during the first few weeks, you will not want to do that final workout, but you must). Then from Friday night until Saturday at midnight or until bed, eat those carbs!
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    HERE IS THE REST OF THE ARTICLE


    CKD Workout

    Now, the question is, how do we workout to optimize muscle preservation and keep our metabolism up while dieting? Before we get into that, one must realize that during any dieting scheme there is one thing that must be done, and one thing that must not be done.

    First, you must keep training volume lower than your usual routine. Overtraining is probably the number one killer in motivation, it deprives sleep, and hinders fat loss.

    Second, you must not fall into the myth of lighter weights with higher reps. You got your muscle by benching 240, and you have to bench 240 to keep that same muscle! Or at least around that area! Okay, now that we have that established, here’s what we do:

    On Monday and Tuesday we will work our weaker body parts, rest or cardio on Wednesday and Thursday mornings, Thursday do our strongest body parts, and Friday a combination of the Monday/Tuesday workouts in a loop format. The workout I have found to work optimally for myself and my clients is this:

    (Note: You may feel free to tweak, shake, and turn this example upside down.

    Everybody is different, so find what works for you.)

    MONDAY: Chest, Back, Abs

    High intensity workouts with 60 sec rest between sets, 90 sec rest between

    each exercise

    (this excludes all warm up sets)

    Bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    T-bar Row 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Incline bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Latpulldown to front 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Dips or Decline bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Shrugs 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Flys (any type) 2 sets, 10-12 reps

    Reverse flys 2 sets, 10-12 reps

    Stiff-leg deadlift 3 sets, 10-12 reps

    Rope ab crunch 3 sets, 10-15 reps

    Reverse crunch 3 sets, 10-20 reps

    TUESDAY: Shoulders, Arms

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Behind the neck shoulder press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Military press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Preacher curls 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    French press or "skull-crushers" 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Shoulder raises (any type) 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Hammers 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    V-bar tricep press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Forearm curls 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Reverse forearm curls 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Wednesday: Rest or Cardio

    Thursday morning: Rest or Cardio

    Later on Thursday: Legs

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Squat or Leg press 4 sets, 6-10 reps

    Lying leg curl 4 sets, 6-10 reps

    Standing calf raise 4 sets 6-10 reps

    Leg extensions 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Seated leg curl 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Seated calf raise 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Friday night: Final Workout

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Bench 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    T-bar Row 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Incline bench 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Latpulldown to front 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Behind the neck shoulder press 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Military press 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Either curl exercise 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Either tricep exercise 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Stiffleg deadift 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Normal floor ab crunch 2 sets, 10-20 reps

    Reverse crunches 2 sets, 10-20 reps

    Start the carb up for 24-30 hours!


    Aerobics

    Before we go on, I want to address the cardio/aerobics issue. Some people find that for the first month on a CKD, cardio/aerobics is not needed. However when fat loss does start to slow down a bit, that is when most start adding 30 min. sessions on their off days. Be careful though, you do not want to hinder your Thursday leg workout. So experiment and try to only add aerobic sessions if you feel you have to.

    Supplements

    So we have the basic diet outline stated, the workout, now what about supplements? Things that can extremely optimize this diet regime. Well, I have to admit no allegiance to any supplement company on this one: Water. Water is important on any diet, especially low carb since there is a diuretic effect, and more importantly during the carbing period. Glycogen is stored with water! You need as much water as possible to hydrate the depleted muscle. Trust me, you will feel a huge "pump" on Sunday morning from all the stored carbs and water INSIDE your muscle.

    Speaking of muscle, the god of all sports supplement right now: Creatine. It can still be used on a low carb diet. Usually 10 grams a day during the low carb days, and around 20-30 grams during the carbing period should work for most everybody. I highly recommend it for everybody who doesn’t get an upset stomach using it.

    Finally, one that everyone that’s dieted before knows about: The ECA stack. Most have not used pure ECA, but mainly herbal extracts in thermogenic products sold by sports supplement companies. For a pre-work out boost and increased fat burning through thermogenics (heat), this is my favorite supplement. It does its job, you feel it happening, and it can help you psychologically when you don’t feel like working out that day.

    Conclusion

    With all this said, I will throw my personal opinion, thanks and motivation on or for the cyclical ketogenic diet. First of all, to me, it is the greatest diet every developed. It makes sense, works and isn’t as hard to follow as one might think. Just stay motivated and concentrate on your goal.

    When you have a craving during the week for that cupcake or pasta, just go eat a delicious serving of some pepperoni and melted mozzarella cheese. Or how about a hamburger patty covered in cheddar cheese and some strips of bacon? Foods that are delicious and that can satiate hunger.

    I followed this exact plan this past summer for eight weeks and loss 18 pounds of fat without any loss in muscle. It was the leanest and most vascular I had ever seen myself.

    And I must give thanks where thanks are due since I did not come up with this diet. Dan Duchaine, who recently passed away, brought my attention to a CKD with his book BodyOpus and Lyle McDonald has done deep research and wrote his book The Ketogenic Diet: A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner.

    This diet can be for you. Oh you’re only a mass builder? Well, lower bodyfat percentages even make you look bigger! Give it some thought and decide. Then achieve your goal. It’s worth it: A diet with true fat loss.

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    Hi guys,

    After doing some lots of reading in this forum, I want to embark on this Keto journey and would like to ask some questions.

    I currently weight 180lb and I would say my bf is around 15%.
    So, I did my calculation based on what Eileen was saying in her replies.

    Total intake calories: 2160.
    Protein: 153g --> 612 calories
    fat: 160g --> 1440 calories
    carb: the rest.

    Does this macro look alright?

    My workout plan until now has been the following.
    Monday: Legs
    Tues: Chest + abs
    Wed: Shoulder
    Thur: Back + forearm
    Fri: arms + obliques
    and 30 min low intensity cardio after each workout.

    After reading some posts, I realized that I might have to change my plan to the following.

    Monday: Back
    Tues: Chest+abs
    Wed: Leg
    Thur: Shoulder
    Fri: allbody

    Would this change be necessary or can I just stick to my original workout plan and simply swap "arms + obliques" with allbody workout on Fri? I still don't understand why I want to work my weakest body parts on Mon and Tue. Don't I want to workout my strongest part (leg) when I'm carbed up?
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    Do whatever workout suits you.

    If you work your weakest body part when you are full of glycogen you can really hit them hard. I tend to leave shoulders for the end of the week, and then I'm shattered, so they always get a half-assed workout.

    But really, lift the way that gives you the best results.
    65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.

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    ckd diet will work for a woman?

    also the main article mentioned that after workouts not to eat fat....that means that you have to eat all of the fat calories prior to the excercise?...
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    No, it means no fat in your Post workout shake. That's the one meal in the day without fat. All your other meals, before and after workouts, should contain fat.

    Wait for about 60-90 minutes after your PWO shake before you eat a normal keto meal.
    65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbs = keto.

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    No-Explode before workout on CKD

    Hello,
    Would it be contrary to the Keto diet principles to take a serving (6 gr carb) or two before workout? TKD area?
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    If it fits your per-meal macros, you can do it.

    Otherwise, you're moving into more tkd territory, which I am un familiar with.
    [IIFYM]

    CKD Calculator (copy pasta):
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=784518
    Carb-Load Guide (copy pasta):
    http://www.simplyshredded.com/research-review-an-in-depth-look-into-carbing-up-on-the-cyclical-ketogenic-diet-with-lyle-mcdonald.html

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    I just start my ckd on monday....I will post my progress
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    can i do this workout routine but with circuit training so add a set of HITT through every 1/3 of that days workout?

    Originally Posted by Blindfaith View Post
    HERE IS THE REST OF THE ARTICLE


    CKD Workout

    Now, the question is, how do we workout to optimize muscle preservation and keep our metabolism up while dieting? Before we get into that, one must realize that during any dieting scheme there is one thing that must be done, and one thing that must not be done.

    First, you must keep training volume lower than your usual routine. Overtraining is probably the number one killer in motivation, it deprives sleep, and hinders fat loss.

    Second, you must not fall into the myth of lighter weights with higher reps. You got your muscle by benching 240, and you have to bench 240 to keep that same muscle! Or at least around that area! Okay, now that we have that established, here’s what we do:

    On Monday and Tuesday we will work our weaker body parts, rest or cardio on Wednesday and Thursday mornings, Thursday do our strongest body parts, and Friday a combination of the Monday/Tuesday workouts in a loop format. The workout I have found to work optimally for myself and my clients is this:

    (Note: You may feel free to tweak, shake, and turn this example upside down.

    Everybody is different, so find what works for you.)

    MONDAY: Chest, Back, Abs

    High intensity workouts with 60 sec rest between sets, 90 sec rest between

    each exercise

    HOPE THIS HELPS OUT ALL YOU BRO'S WITH ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF QUESTOINS! PEACE!
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    I've been increasing the amount of aerobic exercise I do. I've been doing about 50 minutes of fast walking and about 40 minutes of stationary bicycling in order to burn more calories and more fat. I think I should lower the amount of aerobic cardio exercise, because according to this article an excess of exercise is counter-productive


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    HERE IS THE REST OF THE ARTICLE


    CKD Workout

    Now, the question is, how do we workout to optimize muscle preservation and keep our metabolism up while dieting? Before we get into that, one must realize that during any dieting scheme there is one thing that must be done, and one thing that must not be done.

    First, you must keep training volume lower than your usual routine. Overtraining is probably the number one killer in motivation, it deprives sleep, and hinders fat loss.

    Second, you must not fall into the myth of lighter weights with higher reps. You got your muscle by benching 240, and you have to bench 240 to keep that same muscle! Or at least around that area! Okay, now that we have that established, here’s what we do:

    On Monday and Tuesday we will work our weaker body parts, rest or cardio on Wednesday and Thursday mornings, Thursday do our strongest body parts, and Friday a combination of the Monday/Tuesday workouts in a loop format. The workout I have found to work optimally for myself and my clients is this:

    (Note: You may feel free to tweak, shake, and turn this example upside down.

    Everybody is different, so find what works for you.)

    MONDAY: Chest, Back, Abs

    High intensity workouts with 60 sec rest between sets, 90 sec rest between

    each exercise

    (this excludes all warm up sets)

    Bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    T-bar Row 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Incline bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Latpulldown to front 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Dips or Decline bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Shrugs 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Flys (any type) 2 sets, 10-12 reps

    Reverse flys 2 sets, 10-12 reps

    Stiff-leg deadlift 3 sets, 10-12 reps

    Rope ab crunch 3 sets, 10-15 reps

    Reverse crunch 3 sets, 10-20 reps

    TUESDAY: Shoulders, Arms

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Behind the neck shoulder press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Military press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Preacher curls 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    French press or "skull-crushers" 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Shoulder raises (any type) 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Hammers 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    V-bar tricep press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Forearm curls 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Reverse forearm curls 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Wednesday: Rest or Cardio

    Thursday morning: Rest or Cardio

    Later on Thursday: Legs

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Squat or Leg press 4 sets, 6-10 reps

    Lying leg curl 4 sets, 6-10 reps

    Standing calf raise 4 sets 6-10 reps

    Leg extensions 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Seated leg curl 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Seated calf raise 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Friday night: Final Workout

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Bench 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    T-bar Row 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Incline bench 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Latpulldown to front 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Behind the neck shoulder press 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Military press 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Either curl exercise 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Either tricep exercise 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Stiffleg deadift 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Normal floor ab crunch 2 sets, 10-20 reps

    Reverse crunches 2 sets, 10-20 reps

    Start the carb up for 24-30 hours!


    Aerobics

    Before we go on, I want to address the cardio/aerobics issue. Some people find that for the first month on a CKD, cardio/aerobics is not needed. However when fat loss does start to slow down a bit, that is when most start adding 30 min. sessions on their off days. Be careful though, you do not want to hinder your Thursday leg workout. So experiment and try to only add aerobic sessions if you feel you have to.

    Supplements

    So we have the basic diet outline stated, the workout, now what about supplements? Things that can extremely optimize this diet regime. Well, I have to admit no allegiance to any supplement company on this one: Water. Water is important on any diet, especially low carb since there is a diuretic effect, and more importantly during the carbing period. Glycogen is stored with water! You need as much water as possible to hydrate the depleted muscle. Trust me, you will feel a huge "pump" on Sunday morning from all the stored carbs and water INSIDE your muscle.

    Speaking of muscle, the god of all sports supplement right now: Creatine. It can still be used on a low carb diet. Usually 10 grams a day during the low carb days, and around 20-30 grams during the carbing period should work for most everybody. I highly recommend it for everybody who doesn’t get an upset stomach using it.

    Finally, one that everyone that’s dieted before knows about: The ECA stack. Most have not used pure ECA, but mainly herbal extracts in thermogenic products sold by sports supplement companies. For a pre-work out boost and increased fat burning through thermogenics (heat), this is my favorite supplement. It does its job, you feel it happening, and it can help you psychologically when you don’t feel like working out that day.

    Conclusion

    With all this said, I will throw my personal opinion, thanks and motivation on or for the cyclical ketogenic diet. First of all, to me, it is the greatest diet every developed. It makes sense, works and isn’t as hard to follow as one might think. Just stay motivated and concentrate on your goal.

    When you have a craving during the week for that cupcake or pasta, just go eat a delicious serving of some pepperoni and melted mozzarella cheese. Or how about a hamburger patty covered in cheddar cheese and some strips of bacon? Foods that are delicious and that can satiate hunger.

    I followed this exact plan this past summer for eight weeks and loss 18 pounds of fat without any loss in muscle. It was the leanest and most vascular I had ever seen myself.

    And I must give thanks where thanks are due since I did not come up with this diet. Dan Duchaine, who recently passed away, brought my attention to a CKD with his book BodyOpus and Lyle McDonald has done deep research and wrote his book The Ketogenic Diet: A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner.

    This diet can be for you. Oh you’re only a mass builder? Well, lower bodyfat percentages even make you look bigger! Give it some thought and decide. Then achieve your goal. It’s worth it: A diet with true fat loss.

    COMPLIMENTS OF KAKDIESEL FROM ELITE


    HOPE THIS HELPS OUT ALL YOU BRO'S WITH ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF QUESTOINS! PEACE!
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    ... man i heard about the keto diet... but i have a problem. its the lack of information.. i dont know how to put 2 on 2 on how many proteins i can intake and carbs and fat.
    im 27 - 20 % fat. weigh 97 kg. height is 1.84 centimeters... if im right my lean bodymass is 70.4 kg.
    i dont know how to put the math up. i would like some help if its ok...
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    Confused

    Originally Posted by Blindfaith View Post
    HERE IS THE REST OF THE ARTICLE


    CKD Workout

    Now, the question is, how do we workout to optimize muscle preservation and keep our metabolism up while dieting? Before we get into that, one must realize that during any dieting scheme there is one thing that must be done, and one thing that must not be done.

    First, you must keep training volume lower than your usual routine. Overtraining is probably the number one killer in motivation, it deprives sleep, and hinders fat loss.

    Second, you must not fall into the myth of lighter weights with higher reps. You got your muscle by benching 240, and you have to bench 240 to keep that same muscle! Or at least around that area! Okay, now that we have that established, here’s what we do:

    On Monday and Tuesday we will work our weaker body parts, rest or cardio on Wednesday and Thursday mornings, Thursday do our strongest body parts, and Friday a combination of the Monday/Tuesday workouts in a loop format. The workout I have found to work optimally for myself and my clients is this:

    (Note: You may feel free to tweak, shake, and turn this example upside down.

    Everybody is different, so find what works for you.)

    MONDAY: Chest, Back, Abs

    High intensity workouts with 60 sec rest between sets, 90 sec rest between

    each exercise

    (this excludes all warm up sets)

    Bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    T-bar Row 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Incline bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Latpulldown to front 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Dips or Decline bench 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Shrugs 3 sets, 6-10 reps

    Flys (any type) 2 sets, 10-12 reps

    Reverse flys 2 sets, 10-12 reps

    Stiff-leg deadlift 3 sets, 10-12 reps

    Rope ab crunch 3 sets, 10-15 reps

    Reverse crunch 3 sets, 10-20 reps

    TUESDAY: Shoulders, Arms

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Behind the neck shoulder press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Military press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Preacher curls 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    French press or "skull-crushers" 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Shoulder raises (any type) 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Hammers 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    V-bar tricep press 3 sets, 8-10 reps

    Forearm curls 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Reverse forearm curls 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Wednesday: Rest or Cardio

    Thursday morning: Rest or Cardio

    Later on Thursday: Legs

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Squat or Leg press 4 sets, 6-10 reps

    Lying leg curl 4 sets, 6-10 reps

    Standing calf raise 4 sets 6-10 reps

    Leg extensions 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Seated leg curl 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Seated calf raise 4 sets, 10-12 reps

    Friday night: Final Workout

    Same intensity mentioned before

    Bench 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    T-bar Row 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Incline bench 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Latpulldown to front 2 sets, 6-10 reps

    Behind the neck shoulder press 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Military press 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Either curl exercise 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Either tricep exercise 2 sets, 8-10 reps

    Stiffleg deadift 1 set, 8-10 reps

    Normal floor ab crunch 2 sets, 10-20 reps

    Reverse crunches 2 sets, 10-20 reps

    Start the carb up for 24-30 hours!


    Aerobics

    Before we go on, I want to address the cardio/aerobics issue. Some people find that for the first month on a CKD, cardio/aerobics is not needed. However when fat loss does start to slow down a bit, that is when most start adding 30 min. sessions on their off days. Be careful though, you do not want to hinder your Thursday leg workout. So experiment and try to only add aerobic sessions if you feel you have to.

    Supplements

    So we have the basic diet outline stated, the workout, now what about supplements? Things that can extremely optimize this diet regime. Well, I have to admit no allegiance to any supplement company on this one: Water. Water is important on any diet, especially low carb since there is a diuretic effect, and more importantly during the carbing period. Glycogen is stored with water! You need as much water as possible to hydrate the depleted muscle. Trust me, you will feel a huge "pump" on Sunday morning from all the stored carbs and water INSIDE your muscle.

    Speaking of muscle, the god of all sports supplement right now: Creatine. It can still be used on a low carb diet. Usually 10 grams a day during the low carb days, and around 20-30 grams during the carbing period should work for most everybody. I highly recommend it for everybody who doesn’t get an upset stomach using it.

    Finally, one that everyone that’s dieted before knows about: The ECA stack. Most have not used pure ECA, but mainly herbal extracts in thermogenic products sold by sports supplement companies. For a pre-work out boost and increased fat burning through thermogenics (heat), this is my favorite supplement. It does its job, you feel it happening, and it can help you psychologically when you don’t feel like working out that day.

    Conclusion

    With all this said, I will throw my personal opinion, thanks and motivation on or for the cyclical ketogenic diet. First of all, to me, it is the greatest diet every developed. It makes sense, works and isn’t as hard to follow as one might think. Just stay motivated and concentrate on your goal.

    When you have a craving during the week for that cupcake or pasta, just go eat a delicious serving of some pepperoni and melted mozzarella cheese. Or how about a hamburger patty covered in cheddar cheese and some strips of bacon? Foods that are delicious and that can satiate hunger.

    I followed this exact plan this past summer for eight weeks and loss 18 pounds of fat without any loss in muscle. It was the leanest and most vascular I had ever seen myself.

    And I must give thanks where thanks are due since I did not come up with this diet. Dan Duchaine, who recently passed away, brought my attention to a CKD with his book BodyOpus and Lyle McDonald has done deep research and wrote his book The Ketogenic Diet: A Complete Guide for the Dieter and Practitioner.

    This diet can be for you. Oh you’re only a mass builder? Well, lower bodyfat percentages even make you look bigger! Give it some thought and decide. Then achieve your goal. It’s worth it: A diet with true fat loss.

    COMPLIMENTS OF KAKDIESEL FROM ELITE


    HOPE THIS HELPS OUT ALL YOU BRO'S WITH ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF QUESTOINS! PEACE!
    Hi I'm really confused on exactly how to calculate how much protein,fats,carbs I need to have each day. I'm a femail and weigh 132.2lb can anyone help me plz as I really want to get started. I've tyred to calculat them but doesn't quite look right. HELP PLZ
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    Originally Posted by GinelleB View Post
    Hi I'm really confused on exactly how to calculate how much protein,fats,carbs I need to have each day. I'm a femail and weigh 132.2lb can anyone help me plz as I really want to get started. I've tyred to calculat them but doesn't quite look right. HELP PLZ
    Need height too.

    A bodyfat estimate would be good as well.

    Then go here: http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

    That figures out how much energy you use sleeping, then multiply by an activity factor

    Harris Benedict Formula

    To determine your total daily calorie needs, multiply your BMR by the appropriate activity factor, as follows:

    If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
    If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
    If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
    If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
    If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

    This is an estimate of maintenance calories. You may be higher or lower.

    THEN, reduce from there. If it is remarkably low, you may need to cut a small amount, like 250 calories/day. This will equate to half pound/week.

    If you have a decent amount of calories, you can try going higher, like 500, which would be 1 lb/week

    Once you have the deficit calories, multiple by 0.65 to find your fat calories. Then divide by 9 for fat grams/day.

    deficit calories multiplied by 0.3 for protein calories. divide by 4 for grams.

    remainder to carbs
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    Plz plz can someone help me!!
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    Originally Posted by GinelleB View Post
    Plz plz can someone help me!!
    Did you read my post?
    Was 300+ lbs.
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    Originally Posted by Grifts View Post
    Did you read my post?
    Hi Grifts I've just got them thanks. So here goes hope I've calculated it right!
    I'm 5.6 age 40 body fat says 24.2 Bmr 1351.4 x 1.55 = 2094.67 so I've dropped it by 500 so 1594.67 x 0.65 = 1036.5355 divided by 9 = 115.18 (rounded it up)
    Protein 1594.67 x 0.3 = 478.401 divided by 4 = 119.7 ( rounded up)
    So does it mean I have got 115.18g fats and 119.7g protein ?
    Don't know about carbs ?
    Thank you again for your help
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    Originally Posted by GinelleB View Post
    Plz plz can someone help me!!
    Use fitday.com! It figures everything out for you (in terms of protein, fat, carbs ratios)

    The key to fat loss is constantly checking every 2 weeks and re-calculating your total calories.
    It is a good idea to learn how to measure your bodyfat with $2 calipers. Do this every 2 weeks.
    If fat drops and no muscle loss, stick with what you are doing.

    If you gain fat, lower daily calories by 200 a day and re-check in 2 weeks.

    The key to success is always checking your bodyfat levels because your body is always changing.

    Good Luck
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    Originally Posted by ckeays View Post
    Use fitday.com! It figures everything out for you (in terms of protein, fat, carbs ratios)

    The key to fat loss is constantly checking every 2 weeks and re-calculating your total calories.
    It is a good idea to learn how to measure your bodyfat with $2 calipers. Do this every 2 weeks.
    If fat drops and no muscle loss, stick with what you are doing.

    If you gain fat, lower daily calories by 200 a day and re-check in 2 weeks.

    The key to success is always checking your bodyfat levels because your body is always changing.

    Good Luck
    Thank you I have a set of calliper s but not sure how to use them properly
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    Holy shnickeys.

    Man, I can't bring myself to start a keto diet. It just seems so bloody unnatural... I know it works but it's scary in a way.
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    Originally Posted by daniel2166 View Post
    Holy shnickeys.

    Man, I can't bring myself to start a keto diet. It just seems so bloody unnatural... I know it works but it's scary in a way.
    I am starting the ketogenic diet today. I am having a hard time making a 6 meal nutrition plan. I have been looking for sample diet sites and come up with nothing. Any suggestions?
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    Originally Posted by scarlett2 View Post
    I am starting the ketogenic diet today. I am having a hard time making a 6 meal nutrition plan. I have been looking for sample diet sites and come up with nothing. Any suggestions?
    here's a link to the recipe forum;

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/forumdisplay.php?f=143
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    Originally Posted by daniel2166 View Post
    Holy shnickeys.

    Man, I can't bring myself to start a keto diet. It just seems so bloody unnatural... I know it works but it's scary in a way.
    It is hard as ****. Going low carbs is hard but, its a great challenge. I got a PM to this link and I will rep the person who sent it. I am going to try this workout routine next week. I been changing everything I do every week. Sticking to keto though, there are bumps along the way. My questions is this: is it best to go 3months straight on keto with carb up days on the weekend or better to go 4-6wks straight, switch to a calorie deficit diet to cut?

    Thanks. Reps ON RC!
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    Man, I can't bring myself to start a keto diet. It just seems so bloody unnatural
    Funny.

    The diet that humans evolved with over tens of thousands of generations is now "unnatural".

    One of my favorite articles from Psychology Today http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/...-brain-ketones
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    what is it about that diet that troubles you???
    Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated.

    The body cannot achieve what the mind cannot conceive.

    Practice doesnt make perfect....perfect practice makes perfect
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    Originally posted by Blindfaith
    what is it about that diet that troubles you???
    Eating so much fat... And I see a lot of typical keto diets where people are eating lots of sausage, etc and I get worried about saturated fat intake and LDL rocketing up. Maybe it's just part of my conditioning from the uninformed to hate fat...
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    Would be it possible to do something like this:

    Meal 1:
    2 eggs, 8oz skim, 1 tblsp olive oil

    Meal 2:
    4oz chicken breast, pepperoni stick, 1tblsp olive oil, salad

    Meal 3:
    2 pepperoni sticks, 1 tin tuna, 1tblsp olive oil

    Meal 4:
    1 6oz steak, 1 tblsp olive oil, salad

    Meal 5: Cheddar cheese, 8oz skim, 1tblsp olive oil

    I figure that's about 200p, 120f, 30c or so... Is that a good example of a keto diet?
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    Originally Posted by daniel2166 View Post
    Would be it possible to do something like this:

    Meal 1:
    2 eggs, 8oz skim, 1 tblsp olive oil

    Meal 2:
    4oz chicken breast, pepperoni stick, 1tblsp olive oil, salad

    Meal 3:
    2 pepperoni sticks, 1 tin tuna, 1tblsp olive oil

    Meal 4:
    1 6oz steak, 1 tblsp olive oil, salad

    Meal 5: Cheddar cheese, 8oz skim, 1tblsp olive oil

    I figure that's about 200p, 120f, 30c or so... Is that a good example of a keto diet?

    Hey I am a woman about 170lbs and want to shed about 5-10lbs of body fat will this type of diet work for me?? I don't have a problem eating protein. I just need to know how much and when? I also like the concept of a cheat day or day(s) LOL
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