My convo with Michal Kindred

[user87745477315471972481]

Hey all, here's my convo I had with Michal Kindred over MSN many months ago, where I didn't know nearly as much as I do now, but eitherway it's a good read..... MIchal doesn't post anymore and he doesn't get on MSN, so it's worth something that I saved this convo.

Here it is:

Vadim says:
hi
Vadim says:
Man I didn't believe what they said, I just posted a thing saying they ought to respect you more, I still want to speak to you
BB says:
MICHAL IS IN THE SHOWER RIGHT NOW, HE'LL BE HERE IN 30 MINUTES, IF YOU WILL TALK TO HIM
BB says:
IT'S ME, IVA
Vadim says:
Hi Iva, ok thanks
BB says:
HOW YOU DOING
Vadim says:
I'm good, how are you?
BB says:
OK. JUST CHECKING THE E-MAIL AND STUFF
BB says:
MICHAL IS HERE
Vadim says:
ok
BB says:
WHAT'S UP MAN! WHERE ARE YOU FROM? ARE YOU FROM RUSSIA
Vadim says:
Hi! Yes I'm from Russia
BB says:
COOL! HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN HERE?
Vadim says:
Several years
Vadim says:
My family still has business in moscow tho
BB says:
I NOTICED YOU SPEAK VERY GOOD ENGLISH
Vadim says:
Yes, I've studied speaking English a lot
BB says:
I'M JELAOUS
BB says:
LOL
Vadim says:
hehehe
BB says:
SO HOW IS YOU BODYBUILDING?
BB says:
YOUR
BB says:
SORRY
Vadim says:
It's doing fine, but I am experiencing some difficulties
BB says:
WHAT'S UP
BB says:
ANYTHING I CAN HELP WITH
Vadim says:
I am having trouble developing mass for my biceps
Vadim says:
My inner upper bicep is very weak, I could press my finger between both sides of hte bicep into the middle
BB says:
SO YOU HAVE SPLIT DOUBLE PEAK BICEP?
Vadim says:
Sort of
Vadim says:
I dont think its like that tho
BB says:
COOL!
Vadim says:
I just think I have weak inner bicep
Vadim says:
thats why it splits
Vadim says:
I'm not sure .. my problem is, my lower bicep is overpowering my upper bicep
BB says:
DO A LOT OF ISOLATED MOVEMENTS
BB says:
PREACHER CURLS, CABLE CURLS, AND THE ONE, WHEN YOU SEAT AND THE ELBOW IS ON YOUR KNEE........ YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHAT'S THE NAME FOR IT?
Vadim says:
Concentration curls I thin
Vadim says:
think
Vadim says:
Ok thanks, so that brings up the inner bicep a lot?
BB says:
YES. THE UPPER PEAK
Vadim says:
Ok thank you, what do you think of prone incline concentration curls?
Vadim says:
I will explain how it works
Vadim says:
You take a dumbell and you lie with your stomach on an incline bench
Vadim says:
then you curl the dumbell towards your stomach
Vadim says:
one hand at a time
BB says:
THAT'S A GOOD ONE
Vadim says:
ok, thanks.. btw what about the rep range?
Vadim says:
How many reps do you suggest I do for them?
BB says:
I ALWAYS SAY 6-12, WHICH IS RIGHT, BUT DO 8-12 , AND BELIEVE ME, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO CONCENTRATE ON QUALITY THAN QUANTITY [ WEIGHT ].
BB says:
BICEPS ARE SMALL MUSCLES. SO IT DOESN'T NEED A WHOLE LOT OF WEIGHT
BB says:
JUST REALLY GOOD PUMP
Vadim says:
ahh I understand
Vadim says:
Ok, thank you very much for the help
Vadim says:
BTW, why is that
Vadim says:
some ppl dont even train biceps(the only bicep work they recieve is from back training) but they still have decently-sized biceps?
BB says:
IT'S MOSTLY GENETICS
Vadim says:
ok thanks, and one more question please
BB says:
JUST ASK WHAT YOU WANT
Vadim says:
Why is it that my arms are not growing identically? My left arm is considerably larger then my right arm(10-15%)? I seem to be training them equally
BB says:
YOU MEAN ONE BICEP IS BIGGER THAN THE OTHER?
Vadim says:
Yes, also tricep
Vadim says:
my left pec is also a bit bigger then my right one
Vadim says:
but i always try to train them equally
BB says:
USE A LOT OF ALTERNATE MOVEMENTS, MEANING ALWAYS ONE ARM AT A TIME
Vadim says:
could it be because of genetics as well?
BB says:
SO THE WEAKER ONE IS GOING TO CATCH UP
BB says:
EVERYBODY HAS ONE SIDE OF A BODY STRONGER THAN THE OTHER
Vadim says:
ok thank you, maybe I should do extra set for the weaker arm?
BB says:
NO
BB says:
DO THE SAME FOR BOTH OF THEM, JUST SEPARATE IT. YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
BB says:
HOLD ON. I'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN
Vadim says:
I understand I think
Vadim says:
Do alternating dumbell curls and such
Vadim says:
One arm at a time
BB says:
RIGHT
Vadim says:
ok, and I should do about 9 sets in total, for my biceps?
BB says:
DON'T BE AFRAID TO DO 12 SETS
Vadim says:
so 12 sets then?
BB says:
YES
BB says:
WHAT'S YOUR WEIGHT, HEIGHT AND BODYFAT
Vadim says:
I weigh about 170, height 5'6, BF around 10%
Vadim says:
I'm nothing special
BB says:
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S PRETTY GOOD
Vadim says:
Really? Thanks. I am young though
BB says:
HOW OLD
Vadim says:
So I think for my age I am doing very well, I'm only 14.
BB says:
WHAT???????????????????
Vadim says:
I moved when I was about 10 to USA
Vadim says:
Ya
Vadim says:
heheh
BB says:
OH MAN. YOU ARE DOING MORE THAN PRETTY GOOD. THAT'S AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
BB says:

Vadim says:
Ya, thanks a lot man, it means much coming from you
BB says:
I MEAN IT
BB says:
I DON'T BULL**** PEOPLE LIKE OTHERS
Vadim says:
You have given me a lot of motivation, thank you
BB says:
ANYTIME. WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE, I WAS 110 LBS
BB says:
LOL
Vadim says:
heheh, when did you start BBing?
BB says:
AND LOOK AT ME NOW
Vadim says:
Ya you're amazing
BB says:
WHEN I WAS ALMOST 15
Vadim says:
I've started doing it seriously in September
Vadim says:
Before that I was interested but I was not doing things correct
BB says:
YOU HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, DON'T RUSH IT
BB says:
YOUR BODY IS STILL IN DEVELOPING, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
Vadim says:
I understand
Vadim says:
I have heard that when I turn 16 it'll be much easier to gain muscle, is this true?
BB says:
BE PATIENT , TRAIN HARD , EAT CLEAN , USE NATURAL SUPPLEMENTS, DON'T TOUCH STEROIDS FOR ANOTHER 4-5 YEARS - AND YOU'LL GET VERY FAR . FURTHER THAN MOST GUYS ON BB.COM
BB says:
THE OLDER YOU ARE, BETTER QUALITY OF MUSCLES YOU WILL GET
BB says:
BUT ABOUT GROWTH SIZE - NOW IS THE GOOD TIME
Vadim says:
wow, thank you, I definitely will try hard.. I am always improving on everything over time, such as my diet training, etc
BB says:
YOUR BODY IS RELEASING A LOT OF TESTOSTERONE RIGHT NOW AND PRODUCING MORE THAN WHEN YOU GET OLDER
BB says:
SO USE IT FOR YOUR GOOD
Vadim says:
ok

[user87745477315471972481]

CONTINUATION ... THREAD WAS TOO LONG
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Vadim says:
Should I ever cut such as say in march, or should I just constantly stay on a bulking diet?
BB says:
WHEN YOU WILL BE AROUND 20 YEARS OLD , THE TESTOSTERONE LEVEL IS A LOT LOWER. THEN IF YOU WILL BE CONSIDERING BODYBUILDING AS SERIOUS SPORT, THAN YOU CAN START GEAR
BB says:
IF YOU DON'T PLAN TO COMPETE, KEEP ON BULKING UP
Vadim says:
ok thanks, so cutting would just be a waste of time?
BB says:
YOU WOULD LOOSE TIME
Vadim says:
ok
Vadim says:
but what is it I hear that if you keep bulking you'll hit a plateau?
BB says:
WHAT IS PLATEAU?
Vadim says:
plateau is when it gets hard to gain muscle because your body has become used to what is currently being done
BB says:
THAT'S WHY IS GOOD TO START COMPETE EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, BECAUSE YOU WILL GET SO LOW ON BODYFAT, THAT THE BULK UP WILL BE EASY AGAIN
Vadim says:
but I dont even know if I'd be allowed to enter competitions at my age -
BB says:
YOU COULD COMPETE AS A TEENAGER. THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SHOWS
Vadim says:
ok, but I asked once and I heard you have to be 16 to enter a teenage competition
BB says:
REALLY? I KNOW THAT IN EUROPE YOU CAN. I'LL FIND OUT FOR YOU
Vadim says:
ok, thanks
Vadim says:
yes I asked some one
Vadim says:
who knew about these competitions
Vadim says:
and he said i have to be 16
BB says:
I'LL CHECK WITH MY BUDDIES
BB says:
DO YOU NEED TO KNOW ANYTHING ELSE FROM ME?
Vadim says:
Not for now, thank you very much for your help
BB says:
ANYTIME
Vadim says:
actually i checked right now and I didnt weigh 170(I did before but I cut down a bit), right now im at 165
BB says:
LOL. THAT'S STILL GREAT. I BET NEXT WEEK YOU ARE AGAIN 170
Vadim says:
ya most likely, the way I've been eating.. I've eat every 2 hours
Vadim says:
Im not sure how much, I think around 4200 calories a day
BB says:
WOW ! WHAT ARE YOU EATING?
Vadim says:
a lot of meat, patato, dairy, etc, and I have protien shakes often as well
BB says:
GOOD, KEEP IT UP ! LOL
Vadim says:
hehehe thanks, my stomach is bloated often though
Vadim says:
That doesnt bother me at all tho
BB says:
EAT A LOT OF COMPLEX CARBS AND LEAN MEAT
Vadim says:
ya, should I eat 2x as many carbs as protien?
BB says:
DON'T WORRY , I HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM
BB says:
HAVE 1.8 - 2.0 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND AND ABOUT 3-4 GRAMS OF CARBS PER POUND
Vadim says:
ok thanks
Vadim says:
Thats what I am trying to have everyday
BB says:
GOOD.
Vadim says:
what is your opinion on cardio? If you do it like 1-2x a week will it affect mass gains?
BB says:
THANKS FOR THE THREAD ABOUT THE RESPECT. THAT WAS VERY NICE OF YOU.
BB says:
DON'T DO CARDIO IN OFF SEASON
BB says:
YOU WANT BULK UP, NOT TO LOSE WEIGHT
Vadim says:
Ok. It is no problem, you help a lot of people
Vadim says:
Oh I have thought of another question.. for shoulders, should you do about 9-12 sets for them since they are a small muscle like the triceps and biceps? or are they a bigger muscle and need more sets?
BB says:
BUT THE THING IS, THAT I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT, AND THEN WHEN YOU READ SOME OF THOSE POST, WHAT OTHERS ARE ADVESING THERE, YOU WANT TO CRY...... THEY HAVE NO CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT - HALF OF THEM
BB says:
DO LIKE 10 - 14
Vadim says:
But the thing is, this is what you should expect on the internet
Vadim says:
Always there are those type of people on the internet who will post this stuff
Vadim says:
also, you have very big forearms.. can you please tell me how to train them? I do all of those wrist curls and such but they dont seem to have big affect on my forearms(I am not sure why)
BB says:
YES, BUT IF I AM TRYING TO HELP SOMEONE, AND THERE ARE COUPLE OTHERS WITH DIFFERENT ADVICES, WHICH ARE GOOD ALSO - AND THE PERSON WILL CHOOSE FROM US - THAN IT'S GREAT. BUT IF THERE IS PLUS SOME IDIOTS TALKING BULL**** - AND THE PERSON BELIEVES HIM - THAN IT MAKES ME WONDER, WHY I EVEN BOTHER.
Vadim says:
maybe I am not doing them properly.. but it seems my forearms get more work on back day then when I try to isolate forearms
BB says:
I DON'T WORKOUT FOREARMS.
Vadim says:
You're right, it's a shame that this is the way it is..
Vadim says:
really?
Vadim says:
they grew by themselves like that?
BB says:
WHEN YOU WORKOUT YOUR BACK, BICEP,.. YOU ALSO WORKOUT YOUR FOREARMS.
BB says:
LOL. YES
BB says:
I DON'T WORKOUT TRAPS AND FOREARMS. NO NEED FOR IT
Vadim says:
wow I thought that to get big forearms you eventually have to work them
BB says:
WELL AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO . IT'S GROWING ALONG WITH YOUR ARMS
Vadim says:
oh, so your muscles grow if other parts of your body grow?
Vadim says:
Before I didn't train legs that often(that was a mistake), but now I train my legs well and they are growing, and i think the rest of my body started growing better as well because of this
BB says:
IF YOU WILL WORKOUT YOUR BICEP AND IT WILL GROW, THE FOREARM WILL GROW TOO WITH IT
BB says:
YES
Vadim says:
Can you please tell me your opinion on my split? This is what I currently do and it has been working well for me:
Vadim says:
Monday: Chest Tuesday: Back Wednesday: Rest
Vadim says:
Thursday: Shoulders/Legs friday: Triceps/ Biceps
Vadim says:
Saturday/Sunday: Rest
Vadim says:
Sometimes after Chest or Back I might do forearms neck or traps.. nothing important, maybe like 5-10 minutes some isolation work

[user87745477315471972481]

BB says:
THAT'S GOOD. AND I'M GLAD IT'S WORKING FOR YOU.
Vadim says:
ok thanks.. Although it takes me about 1 hour and 30 minutes on thursday, is this too much time for a workout or should it take this long?
Vadim says:
maybe even more
Vadim says:
it takes me about 1:45 I think
Vadim says:
1:30-1:45 aprox.
BB says:
IT SHOULD TAKE ABOUT 1 HOUR [ +10 -10 MINUTES] WITH WARMUP, IF YOU DO TWO BODYPARTS.
BB says:
MAYBE IT WOULD HELP, IF YOU WOULD SEPARATE THE LEG WORKOUT IN TWO DAYS
Vadim says:
Hmmm
Vadim says:
So maybe do calves with Chest?
Vadim says:
then I can do shoulders hams quads on the same day?
BB says:
DO HAMSTRING WITH CHEST, AND QUADS AND CALVES WITH SHOULDERS
Vadim says:
Hmm
BB says:
YOU SHOULD NOT DO CHEST AND QUADS - BECAUSE IT'S TWO BIG BODY PATS
Vadim says:
but that means I cant do any squats or leg press because doesnt that work quads and hams equally?
BB says:
ARE YOU GOING UNDER 90 DEGREES?
Vadim says:
I think so
BB says:
WRONG
Vadim says:
?
BB says:
IF YOU WILL NOT GO UNDER 90 DEGREES, YOU WILL MORE THAN MOSTLY WORK YOUR QUADS [ AND LITTLE BIT HAMS AND GLUTES]. IF YOU WILL GO BELOW 90 - YOU WORK ALSO HAMS + YOUR GLUTES WILL GROW AND YOU WILL LOOK LIKE BLACK MAN...LOL, AND IT'S TOO BIG PRESSURE FOR YOUR KNEES
Vadim says:
hehe ok
BB says:
ALL THOSE GUYS , WHO SAYS TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN - ARE THE ONES, WHO DON'T KNOW A THING
Vadim says:
hmm but maybe I should do calves with chest? I think it makes it more simple
Vadim says:
Since Quads and halms work with each other
Vadim says:
and calves dont take that much work
BB says:
YOU MEAN TO DO HAMS AND QUADS TOGETHER WITH SHOULDERS?
Vadim says:
yes, so it takes about 30 minutes for shoulders, then 40-45 minutes for quads and hams(heavy leg presses, squats, etc)
BB says:
LOOK, DO WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU, JUST MAKE SURE, THAT THE WORKOUT WON'T BE LONGER THAN 60 - 70 MINUTES.
Vadim says:
ok thanks
Vadim says:
I guess 30 minutes for shoulders and 40 minutes for legs?
Vadim says:
Because when I do triceps and biceps it takes me 30 minutes for tris and 30 minutes for bis so it takes about 30 minutes for shoulders as well
Vadim says:
also I am inexperienced with doing calves, can you please tell me ideally how many sets I should be doing?
BB says:
YES.
BB says:
DO 8 SETS
Vadim says:
8 sets? ok thanks
BB says:
BUT I STILL THINK YOU SHOULD GIVE IT A TRY - TO WORK YOUR HAMS WITH CHEST AND YOUR QUADS WITH SHOULDERS AND CALVES - IT MAY WORK FOR YOU.
Vadim says:
also before i was making a big mistake.. I trained tris and bis 2x a week because they were sort of lagging behind my other bodyparts, I trained them hard and well but I did not give enough time for healing, but i dont make that mistake now
Vadim says:
Ok , thanks I'll consider it
Vadim says:
only thing is tho, for some reason it takes me almost a full hour to work my chest and back
Vadim says:
I am not sure why but it takes me more time to do chest and back
BB says:
REMEMBER - YOUR MUSCLES GROW, WHEN YOUR BODY IS RESTING.
BB says:
WHAT'S YOUR BRAKE BETWEEN SETS?
BB says:
HOW MANY SETS YOU DO FOR CHEST AND BACK?
Vadim says:
Hmm
Vadim says:
I think about 17 sets for back, 15 or so sets for chest
Vadim says:
I don't really count all of the sets, sometimes i do sometimes I don't, I just do as many sets as it takes to completely destroy my target muscle
BB says:
I THINK FOR YOU IT'S TOO MUCH. DO ABOUT 12 SETS. YOU ARE YOUNG AND YOU CAN OVERTRAIN REAL FAST.
Vadim says:
ok, but I have not really felt any overtraining, my back is my best bodypart
BB says:
DO YOU TRAIN HEAVY?
Vadim says:
Well, I use variety
Vadim says:
Some of my sets are higher rep, some are lower
Vadim says:
i dont like training only heavy or only high-rep, I like to mix it up.. it has better effect I think
BB says:
WHAT YOU MEAN BY HIGH AND LOW REPS? HOW MUCH IS THAT?
Vadim says:
well , for my back especially I've noticed it's not good to do 4 reps.. so for back, low reps means about 6 reps, and high reps maybe about 15, I do many around 8-10 reps tho
Vadim says:
I've noticed my back responds better if I do 6-15 reps (do some around 8 some around 10 some around 6 and some around 15) rather then below 6
Vadim says:
for example, for wide grip pull ups I do 10-15 reps, for deadlifts I like to do low rep, and for things such as rows, t-bar rows, etc I like to do pyramid sets
Vadim says:
I like to do first around 10-15 reps, then around 8, then around 6
Vadim says:
usually i do something like this for back: 3 sets wide grip pull ups, 3 sets pull downs, 3 sets deadlifts, 3 sets rows, 3 sets t-bar rows, 1 dropset on a back-machine
BB says:
DON'T GO OVER 12 REPS
Vadim says:
really?
Vadim says:
I thought it would be good to get a high pump into the region
BB says:
HOLD ON - PHONE CALL
Vadim says:
ok
BB says:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT MANY EXERCISES , BETTER IS , IF YOU WILL RAISE THE AMOUNT OF SETS. YOU SHOULD GET PUMPED WITHIN 12 REPS
Vadim says:
ok but dont you think it would be more effective to do 3 sets of 2 different exercises which do the same thing(like pulldowns and pullups) instead of doing on exercise for 6 sets?
BB says:
IF I WERE YOU, I WOULD DO 3 EXERCISES 4 SETS EACH AND THAN NEXT WORKOUT YOU CAN JUST SWITH THE EXERCISES. THIS WAY YOU WILL AVOID TO HIT THE PLATEAU SO QUICK, BECAUSE YOU WILL SHOCK THE BODY WITH DIFFERENT TYPE OF EXERCISES, GRIP,....... . KEEP IT SIMPLE. CHANGE THE GRIP, THE INTENSITE, THE EXERCISES,........ IT WILL HELP YOU
Vadim says:
ok , thanks for the help I'll definitely make it more simple
BB says:
ANYTIME YOU'LL NEED SOMETHING FROM ME, I'M HERE.
Vadim says:
Ok, thank you very much my friend, you have been excellent help.
BB says:
NO PROBLEM.
BB says:
I'M GONNA CHECK NEW POSTS AT BB.COM
Vadim says:
ok

[SpartanHuge]

wow, didn't really read any of that. but from the looks of things it didn't look very interesting. looked more or less pointless.

so what are you now? 300 0.35% bodyfat 22" biceps 400lbs bench or so??

[Destroyer]

He may be big an all but he does seem to make a few mistakes and give some pretty dumb advice in that convo.

[beatbox]

Is this Michael guy GMAVs bum buddy or something ? I dont get the point of this thread; the only purpose I can extrapolate from it, is GMAVs infactuation with this guy.

[str8flexed]

don't be dickheads.

[SpartanHuge]

seriously, this is a really stupid thread

[dez/null]

whats this about? kindred?? why?

[user87745477315471972481]

www.michalkindred.com , what a bunch of asses

[ex_banana-eater]

i know alot of these new guys that started showing up this month can be real jerks.

[Matthew Shepard]

i started reading it at first but when i saw it was 3 posts long i stopped

[user87745477315471972481]

Originally posted by ex_banana-eater
i know alot of these new guys that started showing up this month can be real jerks.

yea, im with you on that one, bro.

[Joske]

Was an interresting read

he sure as hell seems to love capslock

I think it's allways interresting what kinda advice those "pros" give.

[user87745477315471972481]

Originally posted by Joske
Was an interresting read

he sure as hell seems to love capslock

I think it's allways interresting what kinda advice those "pros" give.

yea thanks, tahts the kind of reply i was looking for

[RealDeal2099]

Originally posted by Joske
Was an interresting read

he sure as hell seems to love capslock

I think it's allways interresting what kinda advice those "pros" give.

Agreed, though I believe he's not IFBB quite yet. Peace!

[Templar]

Originally posted by Gmav


yea thanks, tahts the kind of reply i was looking for

another bro supporting you.
bump

[amusclehead]

I'm curious what gmav's measurements of the week are today

[cyberxAcE]

This Michal guy looks pretty f'n huge, and more than likely, bigger than most of the people on this board. I don't understand how some of you guyz can rag on his advice so easily.

I read the entire convo and it very much seems like he knows what he's talking about. I'm curious to know how you guys think that you are more knowledgable about bodybuilding than this huge guy. I guess there's the wee chance that you guys are bigger than him and I just haven't seen your pictures...

Thanks for the posts GMAV.

One more thing...
"YOU WORK ALSO HAMS + YOUR GLUTES WILL GROW AND YOU WILL LOOK LIKE BLACK MAN...LOL"

lmao. f'n rooskies....what jokers.

[amusclehead]

i actually read that and now i have a question for gmav:

after you did your suicide arm workout(full day thing) a few days later you claimed your inner bicep put on some insane mass, yet here you're saying it sucks. Um, okay. I guess today Gmav's worst bodypart is his inner bicep

[Jay]

What ever happened to him? Maybe he doesn't like the boards and he just bocked gmav, haha.


Jay

[Awais]

Originally posted by Jay
What ever happened to him? Maybe he doesn't like the boards and he just bocked gmav, haha.


Jay

he is a VERY VERY VERY busy person dude. i think he gets like million clients a day! u know wat i mean right.

but i think he is one of the nicest ppl on planet. who would be willing to help out just about EVERYONE?
he has helped me alot too, and most of the credit of my achievements ( little bb achievements) go to him.
wish i could workout with him some day..

[Awais]

and hey GMAV! thanks for posting the conversation! it answered alot of my questions. if u have any more, post it bro!

[Robert]

I actually enjoyed the post, and got some info from it. Michal and I were actually suppose to grab some lunch and hang out at the natural show in my town this past april. Since he quit posting I didn't get ahold of him, but I guess he did do some guest posing at the Emerald Cup I believe. Anyhow, if you talk to him GMAV tell him to hit me up on here.

thanks

[Joske]

Originally posted by RealDeal2099


Agreed, though I believe he's not IFBB quite yet. Peace!

Yeah i know, alltho is getting real close... That's why i put "pros" and not pros

[Destroyer]

Im not saying it wasnt an interesting post to read I just dont agree with some of his advice/views and dont see what he is basing them on.

And sure he may be big but that doesnt nescessarily means he knows what hes talking about.

[user87745477315471972481]

Originally posted by amusclehead
i actually read that and now i have a question for gmav:

after you did your suicide arm workout(full day thing) a few days later you claimed your inner bicep put on some insane mass, yet here you're saying it sucks. Um, okay. I guess today Gmav's worst bodypart is his inner bicep

np all , you're welcome.

oh and amusclehead, incase you can't read , this was from MANY MONTHS AGO , it was before i did the suicide arm workout.

[raprazant]

Originally posted by beatbox
Is this Michael guy GMAVs bum buddy or something ? I dont get the point of this thread; the only purpose I can extrapolate from it, is GMAVs infactuation with this guy.

you festering assbag kindred is the biggest member of this whole damn board.

[Tyler]

lol you save your internet conversations and keep them for months?