8A,7A, and 6A High school football?

[JayoMano]

Whats this about? are these guys like really really really good or what? I have never herd of that high of A school,

There site
http://www.ihsa.org/activity/fb/x2006-07.htm

Champs of 8A for 5 years+
http://www.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=688146

[Dennis71]

my school is 5a.....it doesnt mean anything other than they have ALOT of people that attend the school

[jdubs2]

my school was 6a in florida.. pretty much means they have sick athletes.. andment i had to work that much harder

[Dennis71]

my school was 6a in florida.. pretty much means they have sick athletes.. andment i had to work that much harder

yeah im in FL too, but it mostly means that u usually have MANY people that attend the school, thus it gives u more talent to choose from....so u can have a really good team, but schools that are 5a,6a, (like my school) only end up with a 20person team at the end

[horns273]

dang, the biggest around here that i've heard of is 6A. my cousin in washington hadn't even heard of 5A

[westtexasfury]

It's the size of the school, and nothing else, it has nothing to do with football. I went to a 4A school in Texas, where there are two seperate divisions in playoffs, small school and big school, both 4A. My freshman and sophomore years, in the big school division, we played a team that beat us in the same round both years. They had trouble beating us both years, then lost the game immediately after that both years, which was the game deciding who would go to the championship game. My Junior year they reached capacity to move up to 5A. They had much more success in 5A. This team is Southlake Carrol. If your not familiar with them, they have won state their first five years in 5A, which includes this past year.

Whether it's 4A, 5A, 6A, or whatever, it doesn't matter!, that's my point.

[westtexasfury]

Not only that ^^^, SLC has been the national champs for the last three years, and there's only one national champion out of all highschools. So, 5A team over 8A team? Sounds to me like there is no superiority of one to another.

[Dennis71]

well there is some superiority.....we played a 3a school (us being 5a) and we beat them 59-3
but then again we beat a 6a school 61-25---(also our rival HS)

[OLDL6198]

yea i went to lincoln-way east a year ago and used to play there... i was a sophomore the year the varsity team won state. this year's team has 3 D1 players, an OL/DL headed to iowa, a DL headed to NIU and an ILB headed to princeton and some other guys going to play d3/NAIA ball.

8a in illinois is the really huge ass schools that have tons of kids. to get an idea of how big east was there were 955 kids in my grade. now it's so overcrowded they have a split schedule- upperclassmen have school 7 am to 1:30, younger kids start at 9 and get out at 3 something.

the 8a schools are the big dogs, this past year east lost in the semifinals to mount carmel, a school that has 6 or 7 guys going D1, and a jr. ILB that has like 30 scholarship offers including notre dame. mt carmel is the same school that produced simeon rice, donovan mcnabb, antoine walker on the miami heat, im sure theres others but i cant remember right now.

[athenafootball]

class isnt about how good they are, just enrollment in the school

[Ironstone-]

8A?7A? you have to be ****ing kidding me. I play 5A, and was under the impression it was pretty good calibur and pretty big school..

if those schools even exist they would be easily pushing 2500+ kids :O.

[apipedream0750]

im in the second highest classification in Massachusetts, and my school has around 2400 kids. there is a school in massachusetts, the city of boston that is almost 4000 kids. schools in the boston area are huge

[HenryHill]

8A?7A? you have to be ****ing kidding me. I play 5A, and was under the impression it was pretty good calibur and pretty big school..

if those schools even exist they would be easily pushing 2500+ kids :O.

You have to realize that Illinois is just seperated into more classes. There's 8 classes instead of the usual 4 or 5 in most states. All it means is that it's more watered down, but I think it works pretty well. My school is 4A, and yeah a lot of the 8A schools have 2500+.

[HenryHill]

I actually went through the list and Berwyn-Cicero from IL has 8025 students.

[mjoffball]

yea i went to lincoln-way east a year ago and used to play there... i was a sophomore the year the varsity team won state. this year's team has 3 D1 players, an OL/DL headed to iowa, a DL headed to NIU and an ILB headed to princeton and some other guys going to play d3/NAIA ball.

8a in illinois is the really huge ass schools that have tons of kids. to get an idea of how big east was there were 955 kids in my grade. now it's so overcrowded they have a split schedule- upperclassmen have school 7 am to 1:30, younger kids start at 9 and get out at 3 something.

the 8a schools are the big dogs, this past year east lost in the semifinals to mount carmel, a school that has 6 or 7 guys going D1, and a jr. ILB that has like 30 scholarship offers including notre dame. mt carmel is the same school that produced simeon rice, donovan mcnabb, antoine walker on the miami heat, im sure theres others but i cant remember right now.

Isn't NAIA division 2 not 3?

[sjr_1490]

My cousin's high school in Minnesota has over 4000 kids in it. Graduation is held at the target center.

[SDOptimist]

Isn't NAIA division 2 not 3?

NO, NAIA is NAIA, its not d-2 or d-3. d-2 is d-2, d-3 is d-3. naia comes well after all the division end. so in college it goes like this, d-1, d-2, d-3, d-4(if it goes that high) and then comes naia.

and ya about the OP. you will see amazing talent in 4A or even 3A. great players even come out of 1A. its not like every single player in that state goes to a camp and then they are like, "ok you suck so your going to 1A, but you over there, you are amazing, so you will go to 8A. thats not how it goes. all that stuff means is the enrollment. and ya they attract great talent. plus they have more kids to chose from. who do u think has better chances of getting a great player? a school with 500 kids? or a school with 3,000? plus alot more money goes into the athletic programs and schools where theres more kids. so ya that may attract a lot more people. but amazing players do come from 1A, its just they may have come from a small town where they have no choice to go elswhere but that school that has 400 kids.

[kcirdec]

wow thats nuts up here AAA is the largest with 225 kids in BOTH grade 11 and 12

[mightyH]

isnt it different from state to state? I mean, a school in a state where 5a is the biggest is the same size as a school in a state where 8a is the biggest?

They just have smaller margins

[jdubs2]

were i am from class does have to do with how good the school is in most cases... yes i understand it is decided by population but most the time a 5 or 6 a school will beat a 2 or 3a schol. not all the time but most. when i was in high school we a 6 then a 5a school played lakeland which was #1 in the nation, they may still be.. we got raped by them 3 years straight.. but for the most part higher clases are more dominant over lower cause they got more kids tho choose from

[MontanaPT]

The class depends on school size like mentioned before. I went to school in wyoming and we were 5a and we only had 1000 in our high school.The reason we were so high is because compared to the rest of the tiny ass state we were a pretty big town.We would get our asses beat by other 5a teams in the nation. As far as NAIA it is comparable to D3 but probably a better division. It goes D1,D2, then D3 and Naia is seperate. There is no D4 I don't know where that came from

[HenryHill]

isnt it different from state to state? I mean, a school in a state where 5a is the biggest is the same size as a school in a state where 8a is the biggest?

They just have smaller margins

I'm glad that somebody finally figured this out.

And NAIA is completely unrelated to D1,D2, and D3. It's a seperate division from the NCAA. NAIA schools are not NCAA members.

[Ironstone-]

isnt it different from state to state? I mean, a school in a state where 5a is the biggest is the same size as a school in a state where 8a is the biggest?

They just have smaller margins

thats what i was thinking like example, texas goes up to 5a. Schools have population all over 2000+. while these illinois schools have up to 8a(wtf?), would probably be similar competition, nothing higher or lower or texas 5a.

[HHenzler]

thats what i was thinking like example, texas goes up to 5a. Schools have population all over 2000+. while these illinois schools have up to 8a(wtf?), would probably be similar competition, nothing higher or lower or texas 5a.

Texas 5A's get up to 3000+, there's 2 of them in Lubbock (about 15 miles from where I live)

Personally, Ithink it's tougher to wi nin a state w/ fewer classifications, because more schools are all together...And the population factors are taken care of w/ the playoff rules in Texas w/ the heaviest/er populated shool(s) going to one playoff division, and the 2 least populated going to Div 2 for playoffs.

With 6-man being the only exception, they were already seperated into seperate divisions at the beginning of the season, and as a result, only send 2 from each district to state playoffs
1A-4A teams send 3 from each district (1 D2, 2 D2)...And 5A sends 4 (2 to each division)


To add to what some said, some extremely populated schools may be horrible at FB because they always have been, ror if it's a magnet school, or a private school...It's harder to recruit certain people to play if they are focused solely on nothing but academics.
Make sense?

[janssen_8_5]

NO, NAIA is NAIA, its not d-2 or d-3. d-2 is d-2, d-3 is d-3. naia comes well after all the division end. so in college it goes like this, d-1, d-2, d-3, d-4(if it goes that high) and then comes naia.

and ya about the OP. you will see amazing talent in 4A or even 3A. great players even come out of 1A. its not like every single player in that state goes to a camp and then they are like, "ok you suck so your going to 1A, but you over there, you are amazing, so you will go to 8A. thats not how it goes. all that stuff means is the enrollment. and ya they attract great talent. plus they have more kids to chose from. who do u think has better chances of getting a great player? a school with 500 kids? or a school with 3,000? plus alot more money goes into the athletic programs and schools where theres more kids. so ya that may attract a lot more people. but amazing players do come from 1A, its just they may have come from a small town where they have no choice to go elswhere but that school that has 400 kids.

Actually, NAIA is split into D1 NAIA and D2 NAIA. It compares to a mixture of NCAA D2 and D3, atleast in football. The top NAIA teams can play with most top NCAA D2 teams. The reason for this is that it gets alot of NCAA D1,D2, & D3 transfers. Just thought I would let you know that NAIA talent has increased greatly over thelast 5 years or so.

[SDOptimist]

Actually, NAIA is split into D1 NAIA and D2 NAIA. It compares to a mixture of NCAA D2 and D3, atleast in football. The top NAIA teams can play with most top NCAA D2 teams. The reason for this is that it gets alot of NCAA D1,D2, & D3 transfers. Just thought I would let you know that NAIA talent has increased greatly over thelast 5 years or so.

ya all of the division outside of NCAA D-1 has been getting better and better.

[gekkoboy14]

yea i went to lincoln-way east a year ago and used to play there... i was a sophomore the year the varsity team won state. this year's team has 3 D1 players, an OL/DL headed to iowa, a DL headed to NIU and an ILB headed to princeton and some other guys going to play d3/NAIA ball.

8a in illinois is the really huge ass schools that have tons of kids. to get an idea of how big east was there were 955 kids in my grade. now it's so overcrowded they have a split schedule- upperclassmen have school 7 am to 1:30, younger kids start at 9 and get out at 3 something.

the 8a schools are the big dogs, this past year east lost in the semifinals to mount carmel, a school that has 6 or 7 guys going D1, and a jr. ILB that has like 30 scholarship offers including notre dame. mt carmel is the same school that produced simeon rice, donovan mcnabb, antoine walker on the miami heat, im sure theres others but i cant remember right now.

I went to Lyons Township, but graduated before we played u

[watchandsee23]

You forgot JuCo and d-1AA...

[watchandsee23]

Actually, NAIA is split into D1 NAIA and D2 NAIA. It compares to a mixture of NCAA D2 and D3, atleast in football. The top NAIA teams can play with most top NCAA D2 teams. The reason for this is that it gets alot of NCAA D1,D2, & D3 transfers. Just thought I would let you know that NAIA talent has increased greatly over thelast 5 years or so.

I'm guessing you go to one?

[mightyH]

What is the difference between d1 and d1aa, or between d1aa and d2?