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07-11-2007, 11:36 AM #1
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07-11-2007, 11:39 AM #2
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There are too many variables to say a yes or no answer.
Short answer, in the post workout scenario you are less likely to gain fat. In fact the majority of competitive bodybuilders use simple carbs post workout throught their contest diets and that is when they get their leanest.
I use simple carbs when cutting with no problem.Free Agent
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07-11-2007, 11:39 AM #3
Results will vary... big time
Read up:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=170643Free agent
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07-11-2007, 11:40 AM #4
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dextrose doesnt inihibit fat loss at all for me or anything, i just hate how it bloats me when trying to cut
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07-11-2007, 11:41 AM #5
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07-11-2007, 11:48 AM #8
The current line of PWO products are ideal in my opinion. Quality Protein source, sufficent amount of carbs for glycogen replenishment, and other goodies necesary for growth and repair. POST WORKOUT is one time of the day that you want high insulin levels. Now the secret to effective fat loss is managing insulin spikes during the day to ensure you dont have a large increase.
Simple carbs are not "bad" when used in moderation and properly timed. Products like Alpha Lipoic Acid are also helpful in managing insulin levels
The poster you referenced is rather faulty in their logic.
spiking insulin levels in a caluculated manner is good. Eating haphazardly during the day within looking to manage insulin levels is bad.
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07-11-2007, 11:50 AM #10
"...The addition of certain amino acids and/or proteins to a carbohydrate supplement can increase muscle glycogen synthesis rates, most probably because of an enhanced insulin response. However, when carbohydrate intake is high (>/=1.2 g/kg/h) and provided at regular intervals, a further increase in insulin concentrations by additional supplementation of protein and/or amino acids does not further increase the rate of muscle glycogen synthesis. Thus, when carbohydrate intake is insufficient (<1.2 g/kg/h), the addition of certain amino acids and/or proteins may be beneficial for muscle glycogen synthesis. Furthermore, ingestion of insulinotropic protein and/or amino acid mixtures might stimulate post-exercise net muscle protein anabolism. Suggestions have been made that carbohydrate availability is the main limiting factor for glycogen synthesis. A large part of the ingested glucose that enters the bloodstream appears to be extracted by tissues other than the exercise muscle (i.e. liver, other muscle groups or fat tissue) and may therefore limit the amount of glucose available to maximise muscle glycogen synthesis rates. Furthermore, intestinal glucose absorption may also be a rate-limiting factor for muscle glycogen synthesis when large quantities (>1 g/min) of glucose are ingested following exercise."
Determinants of post-exercise glycogen synthesis during short-term recovery.
Jentjens R, Jeukendrup A.
Human Performance Laboratory, School of Sport and Exercise Sciences, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham, UK.
I guess Pu12 got it down.
I hate him.Kill the Hype.
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07-11-2007, 11:50 AM #11
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07-11-2007, 11:54 AM #15
Here is a little summary that *MIGHT* help:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...&postcount=162
It explains why some choose to go with food sources (carbs + nutrients) instead of just sugars etc..Free agent
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07-11-2007, 11:58 AM #16
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07-11-2007, 11:59 AM #17
agreed.
I love people, especially Marines I know who claim to be workout fanatics/health freaks and their diet all day consists of mostly high-GI foods.
"AAAGH WHY can't I get this six pack"
*As they eat 2 slices of pizza, a hamburger, and a soda*
"I think I need more Hydroxycut Hardcore"Kill the Hype.
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07-11-2007, 11:59 AM #18
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07-11-2007, 12:38 PM #20
Thanks! I think far too often people get too deep into the weeds and fall victims to the paralysis of analysis. It is not really as difficult as sometimes it is made to be. For me low carbs (mostly centered around post workout) , moderate fat, moderate protein have been the key for me looking in shape consistently. When my carb intake was much higher, sure I decieved myself to believe i was bigger.........I wasn't I was just fatter
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