Intermittent Fasting for Strength Training and Fat Loss

[crazymutha]

I'm gonna try this approach with my students this year, see how they do. What the hell do I know anyways.

You know more most. Some teachers really suck...most are good...then there is teh few and teh proud...teh ones dat leave a mark.

My favorite teacher ever was also the cheif of pulic saftey for a county in MI. He had a history with law enforcement/courts...every session he was able to use his real life experiences to makes sense out of statistics and research methods...STUDENTS LOVE STORIES.

[buddhastalin]

Those are the stories I love to hear...reps...not to dog cardio, but...

lifting + diet wroks for me and I expect it to work for most...but who knows...

i used to do cardio every day before i found out about correct nutrition. once i got my diet straight, i quit doing planned cardio and just lifted weights while eating right. i made better gains than when i was doing cardio. i'm still active, swim, walk, etc, but i do not set a 'time frame' or include 'cardio' around my work outs.

[crazymutha]

i used to do cardio every day before i found out about correct nutrition. once i got my diet straight, i quit doing planned cardio and just lifted weights while eating right. i made better gains than when i was doing cardio. i'm still active, swim, walk, etc, but i do not set a 'time frame' or include 'cardio' around my work outs.

Awesome, Buddha!

I don't have any studies to support it (but, I'm sure they exist).

I can't explain it, but I know that weights are superior. I can't prove it and I won't try.

Good luck with the lifting!

[BabyBodybuilder]

I hate what this diet does to me.. I look all lean and sexy in the morning, but when I start my feasting I look like a cow...

[Oddball8945]

I hate what this diet does to me.. I look all lean and sexy in the morning, but when I start my feasting I look like a cow...

lol, if you think about it thats better then looking like a cow 24/7 from all the food bloat while bulking.

you get to go to school or whatever looking decent and fitting into skinny jeans and when you get home and it doesnt matter you can eat away heh.

[BabyBodybuilder]

lol, if you think about it thats better then looking like a cow 24/7 from all the food bloat while bulking.

you get to go to school or whatever looking decent and fitting into skinny jeans and when you get home and it doesnt matter you can eat away heh.

I was being sarcastic

I also hate how my stomach has shrank, so now I don't get as hungry anymore!

[Oddball8945]

I was being sarcastic

I also hate how my stomach has shrank, so now I don't get as hungry anymore!

oh ok.

how long have you been doing this btw? This is about day 9 for me, its great but i still can eat the same and not be full at all lol, im just not as hungry as i would be spaceing out the meals every 2 hours.

[W8isGR8]

Anyone notice some mad vascularity resulting from this "IF" protocol?

No






But then again I've never had vascularity

[crazymutha]

No






But then again I've never had vascularity

Well...it is mainly genetic from what I hear...don't know. Perhaps my blood pressure is better? I have no idea. My arms are starting to look ripped and they are harder too...I am doing keto IF by the way.

[Bgreise24]

i have a lot of veins in my forearms even when i was over 16% now i have them all up into my bideps at 13%

[-Aaron-]

i have a lot of veins in my forearms even when i was over 16% now i have them all up into my bideps at 13%

Good Lord, learn to use grammar correctly.

[RU4A69]

curious, but why is that? do you have any articles you have i could read about?


PS: how many trees have been destroyed in you're area?

I was walking to the motherfing tire and battery place to pick up my car, thinking the rain had stopped finally: so I went the long way.......figuring I'd get a nice walk in. BOOOOM. Rain everywhere. Tree friggin EXPLODED pretty close to me. This blows because you can't do GPP on wet grass, and the grass will be slick at least until saturday.

The metabolic slowing is believed to be the bodies' adaptive response to long duration medium-high intensity cardio. It is also believed (and I know Bally's trainer likes to use himself and the sole fing exception to this rule) that the IMPACT level of cardio can screw w/ protein synthesis and nitrogen retenetion (thus encouraging catabolism as an adaptive response, and lowering metabolism as a result).

[RU4A69]

Cornish

Game

Hen



almost 100 gms protein

almost 1000 cals

[gijoe985]

Umm.. no. I'm studying this right now in class; today in fact. The THEORY is: Homo Sapiens Sapien viewed Neanderthals as infearer and a threat, so they killed them and took their land.

I'm just throwing this out there, but are they still teaching about Neanderthal man... wasn't that proven wrong a long time ago?

"At the International Congress of Zoology (1958) Dr. A. J. E. Cave said his examination showed that the famous Neanderthal skeleton found in France over 50 years ago is that of an old man who suffered from arthritis;"

Kinda like Nebraska man came from a pig tooth... You know, "scientists" were able to even make up a wife for Nebraska man making assumptions from the one tooth they found... which again came from a pig...

Either way, I hope they stop teaching this junk someday...

[buddhastalin]

Cornish

Game

Hen



almost 100 gms protein

almost 1000 cals

with that much protein and calories, the grams of fat is liable to be close the grams of protein.

[crazymutha]

Cornish

Game

Hen



almost 100 gms protein

almost 1000 cals

Heck yeah...all over that...

I'm just throwing this out there, but are they still teaching about Neanderthal man... wasn't that proven wrong a long time ago?

"At the International Congress of Zoology (1958) Dr. A. J. E. Cave said his examination showed that the famous Neanderthal skeleton found in France over 50 years ago is that of an old man who suffered from arthritis;"

Kinda like Nebraska man came from a pig tooth... You know, "scientists" were able to even make up a wife for Nebraska man making assumptions from the one tooth they found... which again came from a pig...

Either way, I hope they stop teaching this junk someday...

I am 100% with there.

Just like the Mt St Helens eruption in 1980...

FACT: erupted 27 years ago.
FACT: K-Ar dating dates the rock up to 2 million years old

Historic Lava Flow----Potassium-Argon "age"

Hualalai basalt (Hawaii, AD 1800-1801)________1.6 million years
Mt. Etna basalt (Sicily, AD 1792)_____________1.41 million years
Mt. Lassen plagioclase (California, AD 1915)____1.1 million years
Sunset Crater basalt (Arizona, AD 1064-1065)__2.7 million years


Yet, this dating method is still used. Just one example of many LIES.

[The Director]

I've gotten some great results, but I don't know if they can be chalked up to IF in particular. I started at 6.8% body-fat 2.5 weeks ago and I'm now down to 5.2% at 190lbs (I'm using accufitness digital calipers - might be off a bit). My weight has only gone down by 1.4 lbs though. My avatar and all my pics are old because I don't have a camera anymore (broken), so yeah I look a little better now.

I've been fasting from when I'm stuffed (usually by 7PM until 1PM). I break the fast with usually a 500-600 calorie meal and then after my workout, I eat more until I am pretty full. I've been calorie cycling (high calories on intense days, low calories on not-so-intense days) between 3000 and 1600. Strength has been great when I lift (increased a bit), but I only lift 3-4 times a week. I do a lot of sprints and plyos, so it has been nice to not have crap bouncing around when I'm jumping up and down or running.

I too have been worrying about destroying my metabolism. When I got to really low bodyfat before, I was consistently eating 1800 cals/day, while doing intense 2hr track & field workouts. I became very intolerant to cold, lost my sex drive entirely (unless you consider the food network to be porn), would have huge binges every other week, and stopped losing weight. I built my maintenance and testosterone levels back up by eating more calories (4500/day) for a while w/ plenty of fat (& ZMA & tribulus). In the process, I made steroid-like gains in strength, w/o adding that much weight. So yeah, thats my life story. I'm young too, so maybe my words don't quite count as much as some of the more experienced lifters.

thats me right now man, I'm on a keto diet, intaking about 1900-2000 calories a day..sex drive is GONE, dead. I wanna binge so bad, but I'm saving myself up for new years.

[gijoe985]

Yet, this dating method is still used. Just one example of many LIES.

I just had to add one more favorite of mine...

Quote from a high school textbook-

"It is indeed very accurate to date the fossils by their layer... it is even more precise to date the layers by the fossil."

Does that seem nutty or is it just me? And to think my parents had to pay taxes for that education...

[blkbelt42]

no Alan is respected, your just a retard . He made reference to an age group without any unnecessary critisism. Why are we still on this topic will you get over it

*yawn*

[gfundaro]

thats me right now man, I'm on a keto diet, intaking about 1900-2000 calories a day..sex drive is GONE, dead. I wanna binge so bad, but I'm saving myself up for new years.

New Years??? My goodness! You can have a cheat before then you know, it won't kill you. I did dirty carbups every weekend in June, made some gains, then went back on strict keto and lost all the water weight in 2 weeks, and now I'm looking the best I ever have. It's been 5 weeks now and I deserve a cheat, so I'm having one, and 3 days afterwards I'll be back in ketosis with the water weight gone. If you're hating life THAT much, ease up a little. This isn't always going to be ha-ha-fun, but it shouldn't suck incomparably to everything else in life.

[JustLost]

New Years??? My goodness! You can have a cheat before then you know, it won't kill you.

NO! CHEATING IS WRONG!!!! THE BB GAWDS WILL PUNISH ALL WHO EAT THE UNCLEAN THING!!!

I gained 11 pounds of fat just reading your post!

[matthor]

NO! CHEATING IS WRONG!!!! THE BB GAWDS WILL PUNISH ALL WHO EAT THE UNCLEAN THING!!!

I gained 11 pounds of fat just reading your post!

Reps if u can tell which 11lbs it is

[kak39]

Someone needs to make a summary of this thread and information that came out of it, or point me at one that is already created. I have read about 15 pages into this epic post and can't see reading till page 71!

[gfundaro]

Someone needs to make a summary of this thread and information that came out of it, or point me at one that is already created. I have read about 15 pages into this epic post and can't see reading till page 71!

Eat for 8 hours
Stop eating

Work out some time in there and make sure you're getting the amount of cals needed for your bulk/cut/recomp.

[gfundaro]

Reps if u can tell which 11lbs it is

She's just bulking, those pants will fit again when she loses the water weight. She's just swole from the glycogen.

[DrFunk]

NO! CHEATING IS WRONG!!!! THE BB GAWDS WILL PUNISH ALL WHO EAT THE UNCLEAN THING!!!

I gained 11 pounds of fat just reading your post!

I planned a cheat-day for yesterday...Went to macaroni grill...I kept within the IF guidelines (time-wise), but could only get 4000-4500 calories down until I was like a beached whale in pain on my bed. Before, my cheat-days have gone up to 6000-7000 calories. My bro and I have an ice cream eating challenge coming up (15 scoops of premium in 12 minutes) and it's not looking too good for me. Is it stomach shrinking due to the fast or just so much food at once?

[SuffolkPunch]

She's just bulking, those pants will fit again when she loses the water weight. She's just swole from the glycogen.

It's just water retention from creatine

[CF10]

I planned a cheat-day for yesterday...Went to macaroni grill...I kept within the IF guidelines (time-wise), but could only get 4000-4500 calories down until I was like a beached whale in pain on my bed. Before, my cheat-days have gone up to 6000-7000 calories. My bro and I have an ice cream eating challenge coming up (15 scoops of premium in 12 minutes) and it's not looking too good for me. Is it stomach shrinking due to the fast or just so much food at once?

Maybe a little of both. It depends on what foods you eat. Like if you eat 4000 cals from carbs you'll be less full than 4000 from fat. Fat is very filling. And your stomach may have shrunk too. By the way that's a nice bet. Sometimes I joke with my friends that I could eat 50 Krystals in an hour and a half and they tell me Im crazy. Maybe someday I'll prove it to them.

[young_squatter]

I planned a cheat-day for yesterday...Went to macaroni grill...I kept within the IF guidelines (time-wise), but could only get 4000-4500 calories down until I was like a beached whale in pain on my bed. Before, my cheat-days have gone up to 6000-7000 calories. My bro and I have an ice cream eating challenge coming up (15 scoops of premium in 12 minutes) and it's not looking too good for me. Is it stomach shrinking due to the fast or just so much food at once?

Everytime I cheat I do the IF approach to it, reason being I just cant eat as much in one sitting. I go to a buffet usually for my cheats and I can get 5 plates down and im stuffed.

[ybgam]

Would it be logical to say eat within a 4 hour time frame in lieu of the 8 hours ? What I mean by this is, would gains differ ?