note I just wated to post it to let you guys know
BB.com will have a slightly better price on both shoudl be up tomorrow!
mods feel free to edit links
https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop...dde10b3da74985
Dicreatine Malate---- 8.3 grams (stable form of creatine, with Energy)
N-actytl-Glutamine--2.0 grams (stable form of glutamine, spikes G levels fast
Alpha Lipoic---------200 mgs (enhances absorption of both above)
60 servings
mix in grape juice, apple juice or crystal light
you will get sotonger faster,
ideally stacked with Ener-G
https://www.anabolicfitness.net/shop...dde10b3da74985
flavored glutamine peptides
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Thread: Volume DNA New
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11-08-2004, 02:20 PM #1
Volume DNA New
There is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-08-2004, 02:25 PM #2
the addition of lipoic was a slight mistake, but as long as you seal the lid tight there should be no probs fyi....
the stuff is not rocket science but it sure works, is a good buy, and is very effective
the high amount of NAG makes me feel energized.....
testers it will go out tommorrowThere is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-08-2004, 02:33 PM #3
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11-08-2004, 02:44 PM #4Originally Posted by drewkowsky
we try
I wanted to make a basic version like this which yields damn good results
and that does the job with umph
Volume2
will be all pretty and scientific lol for the picky people j/K
I think AVANT LABS did the same thing they had a "basic" version of a product and then a more sopshisticated version that adressed other anglesThere is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-08-2004, 02:48 PM #5
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11-08-2004, 02:52 PM #6
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That's very nice I am going to pick that up after the season and see if it really is ideal for strength athlete. I have 1 question why is it 8.3 grams of Dicreatine Malate seems like an odd number anything scientific behind such a high dosage? (I am guessing that this would only be taking once pre-workout because of the high dosage because 2 servings is like 16.6 grams which is like loading on regular creatine mono that isn't even absorbed that well)
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11-08-2004, 03:14 PM #7
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11-08-2004, 03:25 PM #8
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11-08-2004, 03:49 PM #9
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11-08-2004, 07:37 PM #10Originally Posted by Footballstar
thanks, The NAG is what puts it over the top at 4 grams it gives something you can feel( makes me buzz a little) good though
as far as the 8.3 gram serving size as I wanted the hard traning to get something "more"
just a quirck not particular reason
on the other hand I wanted to put 2 full grams of N-acetyl glutamine, pre and post workout 4 grams a day you actually feel it........
the 200 mgs of Lipoic aids in the absorption of both, its quircky but it works very well
mixed in juice its great and effective
I take it post workout and pre workout the first 7 days
then beyond 1 serving after workouts with juiceThere is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-08-2004, 07:39 PM #11
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11-08-2004, 07:41 PM #12
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11-08-2004, 07:42 PM #13
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11-08-2004, 08:09 PM #14
who's gonna be the testers???
"It's not that i'm that smart, it's just i picked a profession where everybody is stupid" Patrick Arnold
"Yes I Get That Your Balls Might Shrink While On It...but Last Time I Checked I Didnt Fuxk With My Balls Its The Shaft You Use Isnt It? And It Dosent Shrink...." Pro Lee Priest
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11-08-2004, 08:47 PM #15
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11-08-2004, 08:54 PM #16
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11-08-2004, 10:24 PM #18
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11-08-2004, 10:24 PM #19
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11-08-2004, 10:33 PM #20Originally Posted by zachattack43
Zach for sure bro second week of Decemeber Promise
anyone I promised will be gotten too eventually
and you get both EnerG and Volume (1 or 2)
the reaon both is that they go hand and hand for a Lean Body mass stack......
one is like Rebar for you body (EnerG,) and the other one is like Cement (Volume)
the all hit very specific areas of growth (recovery & power output/performanceThere is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-08-2004, 10:35 PM #21
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11-08-2004, 10:38 PM #22Originally Posted by HeartBraykKid
unfalvored, its bitter alone
consiumers are picky about flavoring thus
juice will suffice
and actually juice aids in the absorption via the carbohydrate present
thus the Alpha Lipoic acid helps asorb both the Nag and Creatine more so than alone
ther is a study let me find itThere is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-08-2004, 10:50 PM #23
1: Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2003 Sep;13(3):294-302. Related Articles, Links
Effect of alpha-lipoic acid combined with creatine monohydrate on human skeletal muscle creatine and phos****en concentration.
Burke DG, Chilibeck PD, Parise G, Tarnopolsky MA, Candow DG.
Department of Human Kinetics, St. Francis Xavier University, Antigonish, Nova Scotia, Canada B2G 2W5.
Alpha-lipoic acid has been found to enhance glucose uptake into skeletal muscle in animal models. Studies have also found that the co-ingestion of carbohydrate along with creatine increases muscle creatine uptake by a process related to insulin-stimulated glucose disposal. The purpose of this study was to determine the effect of alpha-lipoic acid on human skeletal muscle creatine uptake by directly measuring intramuscular concentrations of creatine, phosphocreatine, and adenosine triphosphate when creatine monohydrate was co-ingested with alpha-lipoic acid. Muscle biopsies were acquired from the vastus lateralis m. of 16 male subjects (18-32 y) before and after the experimental intervention. After the initial biopsy, subjects ingested 20 g x d(-1) of creatine monohydrate, 20 g x d(-1) of creatine monohydrate + 100 g x d(-1) of sucrose, or 20 g x d(-1) of creatine monohydrate + 100 g x d(-1) of sucrose + 1000 mg x d(-1) of alpha-lipoic acid for 5 days. Subjects refrained from exercise and consumed the same balanced diet for 7 days. Body weight increased by 2.1% following the nutritional intervention, with no differences between the groups. There was a significant increase in total creatine concentration following creatine supplementation, with the group ingesting alpha-lipoic acid showing a significantly greater increase (p < .05) in phosphocreatine (87.6 --> 106.2 mmol x kg(-1) dry mass [dm]) and total creatine (137.8 --> 156.8 mmol x kg(-1) dm). These findings indicate that co-ingestion of alpha-lipoic acid with creatine and a small amount of sucrose can enhance muscle total creatine content as compared to the ingestion of creatine and sucrose or creatine alone.There is no bright future for soldiers scurrying for their reward
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11-09-2004, 02:05 AM #24
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