Illegal rapes 15 year old

[rockstarsar]

all u people trying to blame that its the immigrants that rapes.

yes rape is a bad crime. but ur all saying its the influence of the home countries. stop being ignorant

No we didn't. We expressed disbelief at the fact he was released after multiple stints in jail and on top of it all raped another girl. If he was a white American citizen I'd feel the same way. In this case, he's also an illegal immigrant and after the first offense he should have been detained.

[JJJJ4]

Then support enacting a law that will naturalize them all immediately.

One of the stupidest things ive heard. Thats like saying the solution to crime is to make everything legal, leaving us with a 0% crime rate!

[tribkidd]

You are a peice of ****. I am Indian (from family in India) and know its perfectly fine to refer to the tribes that wandered North America as Indian. Canada and the US still have boards for Indian Affairs and the law still recognizes "Indian" reserves.

you're a very smart man dixon

[CandyStripes]

One of the stupidest things ive heard. Thats like saying the solution to crime is to make everything legal, leaving us with a 0% crime rate!

I think this is the first time I've ever agreed with you.

[JJJJ4]

you're a very smart man dixon

you just smoked meth (serious)

[dixon]

One of the stupidest things ive heard. Thats like saying the solution to crime is to make everything legal, leaving us with a 0% crime rate!

The only crime is that citizens engaged in a peaceful act of being *employed* are being deported. It is a violation of the rights of both the employers and the immigrants.

[bttrthnb4]

You are a peice of ****. I am Indian (from family in India) and know its perfectly fine to refer to the tribes that wandered North America as Indian. Canada and the US still have boards for Indian Affairs and the law still recognizes "Indian" reserves.

Okay, ****tard, then go talk to the NATIVE AMERICANS that live on those reservations. Ask them what they are. Regardless of what the government institutions are called, I prefer to have my ancestors referred to as what they are: the NATIVE Americans.

So. Go **** yourself.

[JJJJ4]

The only crime is that citizens engaged in a peaceful act of being *employed* are being deported. It is a violation of the rights of both the employers and the immigrants.

Are you talking about legal or illegal immigrants? Because if were talking about illegal immigrants, every breath they take in this country is a crime and they have no rights.

[CandyStripes]

The only crime is that citizens engaged in a peaceful act of being *employed* are being deported. It is a violation of the rights of both the employers and the immigrants.

So you're saying laws should be disregarded? They gave up their "rights" when they broke the law.

[dixon]

Okay, ****tard, then go talk to the NATIVE AMERICANS that live on those reservations. Regardless of what the government institutions are called, I prefer to have my ancestors referred to as what they are: the NATIVE Americans.

So. Go **** yourself.

lolumad?

[dixon]

So you're saying laws should be disregarded? They gave up their "rights" when they broke the law.

No, I am saying the current laws on the books are *wrong*. If you break a law that is wrong in the first place, you do not give up your rights.

For example, Jews did not give up their rights in Nazi Germany because they wanted to own businesses but the government disallowed them to. The government was wrong, not them.

As far as "illegal" immigration--the government is currently violating the rights of employers (American citizens) who wish to engage in hiring the immigrants, with landlords who want to rent to them, and any one else engaging in an act of trade with them.

[bttrthnb4]

lolumad?

Meh, not so much....not worth it.

[dixon]

Meh, not so much....not worth it.

Nah, you're mad. You're one of those people who has to jump into a conversation and go "They're not Indian don't call em dat!!!!OMG" and go red in your face--like you did in this thread.

[CandyStripes]

No, I am saying the current laws on the books are *wrong*. If you break a law that is wrong in the first place, you do not give up your rights.

For example, Jews did not give up their rights in Nazi Germany because they wanted to own businesses but the government disallowed them to. The government was wrong, not them.

As far as "illegal" immigration--the government is currently violating the rights of employers (American citizens) who wish to engage in hiring the immigrants, with landlords who want to rent to them, and any one else engaging in an act of trade with them.

Comparing Nazi Germany and Jews to this current situation?

Talk about far fetched, I'm not going to give this a serious response.

[JJJJ4]

No, I am saying the current laws on the books are *wrong*. If you break a law that is wrong in the first place, you do not give up your rights.

For example, Jews did not give up their rights in Nazi Germany because they wanted to own businesses but the government disallowed them to. The government was wrong, not them.

As far as "illegal" immigration--the government is currently violating the rights of employers (American citizens) who wish to engage in hiring the immigrants, with landlords who want to rent to them, and any one else engaging in an act of trade with them.

The most fundamental right of a nation is to be able to protect its borders...its not even a right, its a responsibility. America would no longer be considered a sovereign nation without those laws.

[bavi]

"Juan Villa, 24, has been in the Maury County Jail 11 times since 2001 on charges of assault, public intoxication, driving without a license and contempt of court."

11 times in jail?? If he is illegal, then thats quite a ****ed up system that allows an illegal to go to jail 11 times and not get deported.

[Mises]

Nice system we got going here, if an illegal breaks the law why the hell is he put in jail instead of just being deported?

He raped a 15 year old girl, yes that is tragic but many LEGAL people rape. I think you guys are getting caught up on the fact that he's illegal and are not looking at the real problem which is our system. It has clearly failed here and a 15yr old girl had to pay for it.

[DangerDan]

**** illegals. They can go to hell.

The Mexicans, the Canadians, the whoever, I don't care.

If you're in this country illegally you really have no initiative to follow the laws and get insurance for your car or anything like that.

[bttrthnb4]

Nah, you're mad. You're one of those people who has to jump into a conversation and go "They're not Indian don't call em dat!!!!OMG" and go red in your face--like you did in this thread.

if you say so. If you read up a little farther, you'll see it wasn't my first post in this thread.

[user437490845hjgd]

Your knowledge of economics is below zero, because it's simply filled with garbage. Immigrants coming to the US only improve the economy my providing labour and expertise that increases production (read: wealth).

You are also largely unaware of the history of your own country, which hosted millions of immigrants between 1850-1920 and at the time because the most industrialized and prosperous nation on earth.

You would be correct, if not for the entitlement system in which hundreds of billions of dollars a year are culled from the sucker taxpayer and then used as a defacto subsidy to allow companies to leverage lower wages. Offer $5 an hour to build decks or $3 an hour to labor on a farm, and crossing the Rio Grande isn't worth it.

But throw in government benefits (which illegals receive already, and, under Bush's proposed shamnesty deal, their access would be expanded to the tune of an estimated $1 trillion price tag) and that changes things. Factor in America's free healthcare (you may not know about it - if you are dirt poor, citizen or not, you can head over to any emergency room and they are forced by law to treat you even for non-emergencies - sometimes the federal government compensates the hospital with Medicaid funds, and sometimes the emergency room, or hospital itself, must close down because of bankruptcy) and the pot is sweetened further.

But anyway, this thread is not about the pros and cons of unchecked illegal immigration (or amnesty end-runs to ameliorate the 'illegal' part - wow strong solution). It is about a man who happens to be an illegal alien, was arrested 11 times and never handed over to ICE, who was released from jail and then, within hours, celebrated his freedom in the land of opportunity (which he broke into) by raping a 13 and 15 year old girl.

[Mises]

**** illegals. They can go to hell.

The Mexicans, the Canadians, the whoever, I don't care.

If you're in this country illegally you really have no initiative to follow the laws and get insurance for your car or anything like that.

lol yes you DO have an initiative to follow the laws.....not being found cuz you're illegal!!

[HeLiu]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=tLPuGuaZTx8

dis is very similar to the issue we're discussing right now

[hakeem]

wow thats alpha (no ****)

[Mises]

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dis is very similar to the issue we're discussing right now

FAIL

[dixon]

Comparing Nazi Germany and Jews to this current situation?

I was only making a comparison on one way: Showing a clear example of wear a particular law was *wrong*. Anyone could see that, even you could, but you are dishonest with yourself and do not wish to acknowledge it.

[dixon]

The most fundamental right of a nation is to be able to protect its borders...its not even a right, its a responsibility. America would no longer be considered a sovereign nation without those laws.

America *should* protect its borders. I don't debate that. I am saying America should do it *properly*--without making people "illegal" who should not be illegal.

[z4ck]

im sick of peopel bringing up the indian BS. if the indians had the power to remove us from the country few hundred years ago, they would of.

they didnt have the power that why we are here now.

we do have the power to kill all illegals right now.

indians would of done it, kill all the illegals. gas them, poison them, w/e it takes.
i cant wait untill oim president, and set this **** straight

i'll vote for you

[dixon]

You would be correct, if not for the entitlement system in which hundreds of billions of dollars a year are culled from the sucker taxpayer and then used as a defacto subsidy to allow companies to leverage lower wages. Offer $5 an hour to build decks or $3 an hour to labor on a farm, and crossing the Rio Grande isn't worth it.

Any type of corporate welfare is wrong and you should be working to eliminate it. At the same time you should be working to legalize the immigrants.

But throw in government benefits (which illegals receive already, and, under Bush's proposed shamnesty deal, their access would be expanded to the tune of an estimated $1 trillion price tag) and that changes things. Factor in America's free healthcare (you may not know about it - if you are dirt poor, citizen or not, you can head over to any emergency room and they are forced by law to treat you even for non-emergencies - sometimes the federal government compensates the hospital with Medicaid funds, and sometimes the emergency room, or hospital itself, must close down because of bankruptcy) and the pot is sweetened further.

These laws are wrong and Bush is a bad president. Thanks for the information but is it supposed to contradict my points I made before?

[MattyH7688]

i hate illegal immigrants.. if someone is illegal they should be deported and we should have snipers at the borders

[mjfan12]

**** man your lucky you live all the way in Illinois, they can't find a pickup that can go that far, here in CO, they are everywhere.

LMAO Chicago???