Well, are they?
That's what my dad told me, but I am not sure weather or not to believe him. I wouldn't think that they would be so popular if they were bad for knees.
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Thread: are squats bad for knees?
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10-31-2004, 01:53 AM #1
are squats bad for knees?
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10-31-2004, 02:07 AM #2Masked Avenger Chief #2
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10-31-2004, 02:18 AM #3Masked Avenger Chief #2
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Well shirlock, you're smarter than you give yourself credit forOriginally Posted by CayenneRepped up and ready to go!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-31-2004, 02:36 AM #4Regisided Uber
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For a lot of people they can cause knee problems, but if this is the case, you're simply not doing it correctly.
Keep your heels on the ground throughout the entire motion, and if you're bending your knees through more than about 80 degrees you're going to stuff your knees. By 'more than 80 degrees', I mean, contrarily, less than 80 degrees, angularily, which is 'more' of a flex.
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10-31-2004, 09:06 AM #5Train smarter, not harder
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10-31-2004, 09:28 AM #6
You start having problems with your knees if you use too much weight and let your knees float out in front of you and left or right as you move up. If you use perfect form (sitting back then down, back straight, knees staying in one plane of motion and behind your toes) the only side effect of squats will be huge legs.
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10-31-2004, 09:55 AM #7You are not what you own.
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Word. And don't listen to that "don't go too low" nonsense. Going to parallel is worse than going all the way down, as a lot of the stress is transferred from the knees to the hips as you pass parallel.Originally Posted by Melkor"When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
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10-31-2004, 10:17 AM #8Registered User
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Loses a little of the affect with Sherlock misspelled.Originally Posted by TIMESCAPE
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10-31-2004, 10:18 AM #9Banned
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10-31-2004, 10:21 AM #10lolOriginally Posted by nykwanLoses a little of the affect with Sherlock misspelled.
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That's what I was thinking.A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
"Out of damp and gloomy days, out of solitude, out of loveless words directed at us, conclusions grow up in us like fungus: one morning they are there, we know not how, and they gaze upon us, morose and gray. Woe to the thinker who is not the gardener but only the soil of the plants that grow in him."
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10-31-2004, 10:43 AM #11
What I have found is if your knee does not go past your toes your knee will not suffer damage. When doing high bar or low bar squats, the bar is held high or low on the shoulders, going to about 90 degrees is safe for the knees. The box squat is great for this. This is great for the quads but the glutes are left out. For including the glutes in the squat you have to go rock bottom. For this I would recommend the front squat or post squat.
When a person squats the bar is held over the center of the feet. This should be obvious. If we have two hundred pounds behind our shoulders and the weight is behind our feet we will fall backwards. If the weight is held in front of the feet, by bending at the waist, the butt will stick out in an attempt to counter balance the weight and the lower back is put in danger. To counter this some lifters will lift their heels so they can move their knees past their toes. You see this with guys putting plates or a board under their heels when they squat. When the knee is past the toe and a rock bottom squat is attempted the knee is forced into hyperflexion thus doing damage to the tendons, see this link: http://www.orthoassociates.com/knee_lig.htm .
When doing a front squat the bar is held over the center of the foot right from the beginning. As the person does a front squat the butt does not stick out and the knee does not go into hyperflexion because the knee is not past the toe.
In my opinion the best squat for rock bottom squats is the post squat. The front squat is not commonly seen because it is hard. The post squat is even harder. It uses all of the stabilizer muscles and demands correct form. The correct way to do a post squat is to stand with all your weight on one leg. Place the unweighted leg across in front of the weighted leg. Then squat all the way down slowly and come up fast. You don't need a bar for this, your body weight will be enough. It is important that the unweighted leg be in front. I have seen people do this exercise with the leg in back but it is just asking for trouble. As your weighted leg gets tired the unweighted leg will unconsciously attempt to assist in the squat. If the leg is behind force will be applied to the side of the knee and your are back to having knee problems from squatting. With the unweighted leg in front there is no way for it to assist in the squat.
A lot of people have problems doing even one post squat. As a crutch to get past not be able to complete a set I recommend using a door. Open a door so that you can grasp both door knobs directly in front of you. Then do the post squat and use the door knobs to help you. Remember they are door knobs not lifting bars. Get to were you can do two or three sets of twenty on each leg and you will be a happy camper.
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fa fa fa fa fa fuuuuahhhhck you!Originally Posted by nykwanLoses a little of the affect with Sherlock misspelled.
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10-31-2004, 07:47 PM #13Hmm... Did you try to negative rep me? If so you should try again later when you can actually give rep. roflOriginally Posted by Subaru
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Btw, your note you left said something like "**** your couch ******." Needless to say I was not offended.A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.
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10-31-2004, 07:47 PM #14Train smarter, not harder
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