Finally hit 135lb snatches for the first time, reps all around!

[TINutrition]

I know its poverty weight, but after 5 months its a huge milestone for me. Hit it for three singles. Onward and upward! Thanks to all who post in this forum, you guys are an inspiration!

[Tyran28]

gjdm

[huntito]

post vids!

[TINutrition]

post vids!

Ill be competing on the 1st, will have one then!

[olyw8lifter]

Nice job!!! Keep up the good work!

[kerltee]

hopefully it will be mine turn soon..

[gahptramsenoru]

been oly lifting for 1 week, just hit 50kg, soon.jpg

[Quickstrike]

Awesome dude! 135 is a huge first milestone IMO.

Next up, bodyweight snatch.

[jamalfudge]

Good work. I have been stuck there for a while.

[Firecracker1989]

Good work. I have been stuck there for a while.

LOL me too I have been stuck for a long time.

[Greco-Roman]

Way to go!

[TINutrition]

Awesome dude! 135 is a huge first milestone IMO.

Next up, bodyweight snatch.

Here is the vid of 135/140. my first meet got cancelled unfortunately, so ill just be training for the next one. BW is definitely the next milestone...

Id really appreciate any critique, as Ive had no formal training and am sure there are flaws.

[kerltee]

straighter pull

[TINutrition]

straighter pull

first or second?
what cue should I focus on?

[SG55]

Take your time getting set up. Your back was pretty round, and you didn't really drive through your legs as much as you should have. Also, sweep the bar back into your hips, don't try and bring your hips to the bar or you'll be drug forward. If you bring your hips to the bar, when the bar makes contact, it's going to loop out in front, and either land so far behind you that you'll miss behind with 0 chance to save it, or you'll land with the bar out in front. Take your time to hit better positions and get that upper back tight as you start the pull, get that chest up, and really think of pushing the earth away from you with your legs rather than pulling with your back. And maybe be a little quicker under the bar, but that will come with time.

[TINutrition]

Take your time getting set up. Your back was pretty round, and you didn't really drive through your legs as much as you should have. Also, sweep the bar back into your hips, don't try and bring your hips to the bar or you'll be drug forward. If you bring your hips to the bar, when the bar makes contact, it's going to loop out in front, and either land so far behind you that you'll miss behind with 0 chance to save it, or you'll land with the bar out in front. Take your time to hit better positions and get that upper back tight as you start the pull, get that chest up, and really think of pushing the earth away from you with your legs rather than pulling with your back. And maybe be a little quicker under the bar, but that will come with time.

This is really helpful, because when I do miss reps its ALWAYS because it flies behind me. My flexibility is a limiter as well, but is night and day compared to where I was (couldn't even do an overhead squat with just the bar last year) so I imagine this will improve naturally. Ive started Pendlay's beginner program last week, which incorporates a lot of knee and hip snatches, do you think this will help me pull into the hips on the full lift?

[SG55]

This is really helpful, because when I do miss reps its ALWAYS because it flies behind me. My flexibility is a limiter as well, but is night and day compared to where I was (couldn't even do an overhead squat with just the bar last year) so I imagine this will improve naturally. Ive started Pendlay's beginner program last week, which incorporates a lot of knee and hip snatches, do you think this will help me pull into the hips on the full lift?

Yes. Hip snatches are mainly great because they teach you to move under the bar very quickly. Our programming uses a lot of them.

[kerltee]

i agree and disagree with some of SG55's comments but i think it's worth giving a shot and may work out for you. my comment about the straighter pull refers to the bar swinging out like a windmill; i'm not sure what cues fix that except to just be conscious of getting the bar to travel more vertical.

in other news I PBed with a 60kg snatch today, which is basically the metric equivalent of 135lb. woo!

[SG55]

i agree and disagree with some of SG55's comments but i think it's worth giving a shot and may work out for you. my comment about the straighter pull refers to the bar swinging out like a windmill; i'm not sure what cues fix that except to just be conscious of getting the bar to travel more vertical.

in other news I PBed with a 60kg snatch today, which is basically the metric equivalent of 135lb. woo!

The advice I gave him was help stop him from swinging the bar out.

[TINutrition]

i agree and disagree with some of SG55's comments but i think it's worth giving a shot and may work out for you. my comment about the straighter pull refers to the bar swinging out like a windmill; i'm not sure what cues fix that except to just be conscious of getting the bar to travel more vertical.

in other news I PBed with a 60kg snatch today, which is basically the metric equivalent of 135lb. woo!

Congrats on your lift. What exactly would you disagree with concerning his advice? I appreciate your participation in this thread but Im not looking for vague negativism without objective advice. This place is great for coming together and sharing thoughts, perhaps I, as well as SG55, can learn from things you have done to overcome technical errors. Thanks

[kerltee]

The advice I gave him was help stop him from swinging the bar out.

yeah i know, my poorly worded vague answers was agreeing with that. the one thing i didn't agree with is the 'bar to hips' comment rather than 'hips to bar', solely because this never worked for me and screwed me up (although it really is a bit of both).

[TINutrition]

yeah i know, my poorly worded vague answers was agreeing with that. the one thing i didn't agree with is the 'bar to hips' comment rather than 'hips to bar', solely because this never worked for me and screwed me up (although it really is a bit of both).

yah i hear ya, im so new to oly lifting i figure simply getting more reps in alone will help a ton. Ill keep that in mind though...

[SQNega]

Check your starting position. Your knees should be behind the shoulders.
I would recommend to spend some time in the starting position to make sure it is correct and start the pull only after this.

[TINutrition]

Check your starting position. Your knees should be behind the shoulders.
I would recommend to spend some time in the starting position to make sure it is correct and start the pull only after this.

Yah this would definitely be a result of flexibility issues. Ive been putting in much work to address this, and it continues to improve over time. Any tips or videos that could help in this area?

[olyw8lifter]

Check your starting position. Your knees should be behind the shoulders.
I would recommend to spend some time in the starting position to make sure it is correct and start the pull only after this.

Um, where did you learn to lift?? Knees do NOT belong behind the shoulders at the start of the snatch or clean. Watch all the elite lifters at World champs and Olympics and you will quickly see this!!

[SQNega]

Yah this would definitely be a result of flexibility issues. Ive been putting in much work to address this, and it continues to improve over time. Any tips or videos that could help in this area?

You may try to place the knees more out, put your abs between them and raise your hips a little bit.
I can't really tell you more since I'm not a coach and I didn't have flexibility issues with starting position (it's pretty uncomfortable though).

Um, where did you learn to lift?? Knees do NOT belong behind the shoulders at the start of the snatch or clean. Watch all the elite lifters at World champs and Olympics and you will quickly see this!!

I just looked at pictures of world class snatches and most lifters do place knees behind shoulders or at same level, but not in front of them. Maybe I didn't use perfect wording for this, but knees of TINutrition seem to be way too forward.

[olyw8lifter]

You may try to place the knees more out, put your abs between them and raise your hips a little bit.
I can't really tell you more since I'm not a coach and I didn't have flexibility issues with starting position (it's pretty uncomfortable though).


I just looked at pictures of world class snatches and most lifters do place knees behind shoulders or at same level, but not in front of them. Maybe I didn't use perfect wording for this, but knees of TINutrition seem to be way too forward.

Where the knees go is determined by limb length and other factors. The best way to determine is set up with toes pointed slightly out and shoulders directly over the bar, or slightly in front of the bar. The knees will go where they must. I would NOT suggest to keep knees back purposefully, it's the wrong thing to think about at the start. OP's start position looks fine.

[TINutrition]

Where the knees go is determined by limb length and other factors. The best way to determine is set up with toes pointed slightly out and shoulders directly over the bar, or slightly in front of the bar. The knees will go where they must. I would NOT suggest to keep knees back purposefully, it's the wrong thing to think about at the start. OP's start position looks fine.

Hmmm, I think I know whats hes saying. Its clear that the knees move back naturally during the initial break from the ground, and especially during the first pull, but whether or not this is a conscious cue Id probably side with you. Would you care to critique my first pull in general? I appreciate your input!

[olyw8lifter]

Hmmm, I think I know whats hes saying. Its clear that the knees move back naturally during the initial break from the ground, and especially during the first pull, but whether or not this is a conscious cue Id probably side with you. Would you care to critique my first pull in general? I appreciate your input!

I think your first pull is fine. If I had to critique anything, I would say to tighten up the upper back along with the lower back. Your upper back seems a bit rounded over. Try and think proud chest as you set-up, pull the shoulder blades "down". This will help a bit, but there's really not much wrong.

Second pull needs to be extended a bit more, and make sure you're staying mid-foot to heels throughout the lift.

[China505]

I know its poverty weight, but after 5 months its a huge milestone for me. Hit it for three singles. Onward and upward! Thanks to all who post in this forum, you guys are an inspiration!

Good work, keep it up!!!