Just wondering if anyone does because I was thinking about doing it myself
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07-17-2007, 04:12 PM #1
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07-17-2007, 04:18 PM #2
I think the idea on this is cardio should be done in at least 30 min. sessions so you could do 2 30 min. sessions but I think if you did like 2 15 min. sessions it wouldn't be as beneficial to you....a long time ago when i played soccer back in college i was doing 2 45 min. sessions a day more for endurance and stuff like that but now i do it all in one session
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12/05/08....207lbs
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07-17-2007, 04:56 PM #3
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07-17-2007, 05:03 PM #4
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07-17-2007, 05:06 PM #5
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07-17-2007, 05:10 PM #6
yep. i run around 45 min. in the morning and about 2 miles of mild jogging in the evening before i lift. i've had to struggle with shin splints too. It doesn't hurt as much as it used to though. Maybe i am just used to it or something
but when it hurt really bad a year ago, i just took a few months off. rest is probably the best remedy for it."Train beyond the pain...and death is your only release." -Steve Michalik
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07-17-2007, 05:11 PM #7
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I sometimes run in the morning lift at night. I have done cardio twice a day, but it got really boring.
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07-17-2007, 05:41 PM #8
For shinsplints, try running outside instead of on a treadmill, if you aren't doing so already. Shinsplints usually occur when your're on a treadmill, because your body isn't setting the pace for your run. The tread is moving at a certain pace, and your job is to just stay on the machine. Thus, we have a tendency to "bounce" rather than propel ourselves forward, which is what natural, outdoor running is.
The proper way to run is to have your feet moving in a circular motion while your torso stays straight. Your feet should land in a dorsi-flexed position, that is to say that the ball of your foot should land BRIEFLY on the pavement before propelling yourself off of it; your heel shouldn't touch the pavement much, if at all. This keeps your bodyweight from "bouncing" up and down on your shins.
The only bad side is, the pain gets transferred from your shins to your calves, but you'll realize this is NOTHING compared to that awful pain from shin splints... I avoid the treadmill as much as i can, but just yesterday I did my cardio session on one and I literally had to stop after 10 minutes.
Also, running on pavement at a FASTER pace will force your feet to propel yourself faster, not leaving you the option to have weight directly on top of your shins.
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07-17-2007, 06:07 PM #9
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So you want to do cardio twice a day, why? First off if you keep your heart rate in the fat burning zone (70-80%) you will burn fat better. So when you run for 30 minutes by the time your heart gets in the zone you've already used about 2-4 minutes. Bringing your total time in the target heart range 26-28 minutes. So you can either
A)run once a day and have longer cardio session, keeping your heart rate up longer=burn more fat
b)do twice a day for thirty minutes and use up a lot more time and not get as good of results
c)do it twice a day but do intense sessions
As far as shin splits, they are NOT caused from treadmills. You will get shin splits when you try to increase your mileage to quickly and/or your running shoes are old and need to be replace. Running shoes do have a shelf life.
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07-17-2007, 06:16 PM #10
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07-17-2007, 07:21 PM #11
Well, I re-read your post twice and I still couldn't make much sense of the first 3/4's.
I used to do lifting in the morning, followed immediately by cardio. Most people know that this is ideal because your glycogen stores are depleted after intense weightlifting, thus you begin burning fat immediately at the start of your cardio workout. Specifically, I would do no more than 15 minutes of HIIT after lifting, 4 days a week.
At least twice a week I would have the above mentioned routine in addition to an hour-long submission-wrestling class in the evening. Very high-intensity cardio, as anyone who has wrestled/boxed knows. I dropped from 17% BF to almost 10% BF (see progress pics) in about a month doing my cardio in this way.
How does increasing your pace (I assume this is what you meant) put more stress on your shins? I don't understand.Last edited by snitz; 07-17-2007 at 07:24 PM.
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07-17-2007, 07:36 PM #12
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07-17-2007, 07:38 PM #13
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What I'm doing is 45 minutes to an hour on the stationary bike at a low intensity either after I lift or early in the morning on days I don't lift. Then I run at night, I run to our school's football stadium, which is about a mile away, do a lap or two on the track, then sprints on the football field and run home, but I don't run on lifting days, so it's only 3 days per week.
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07-17-2007, 07:42 PM #14
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The most important advice anyone can give you is "listen to your body". If you are losing lots of weight and dont feel like your overreaching/overtraining, by all means continue in what is giving you results. If you do start to feel extremely tired....cut back on the frequency or intensity of your cardio.
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07-17-2007, 08:32 PM #15
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07-17-2007, 08:33 PM #16
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i used to do two sessions last summer, i did it a while this spring, and i would like to be doing it now except its so damn hot outside this week i cant go in the afternoon im afraid i would overheat.
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07-17-2007, 09:40 PM #17
It varies from day to day, but I'll do at least two hours minimum. Two sessions, but I've done three before.
On long days, usually weekends, I've done upwards of 6-11 hours.
Ice, rest, shin massages, and Ibuprofen.
Useless you're doing a race or your muscles tend to be very stiff in the morning, don't stretch. Run slower in the beginning as your warm-up then speed up to your normal pace. Stretch afterwards.
Poor shoes or adding mileage too quickly are the most common reasons why people get shin splints.Last edited by Daegus; 07-17-2007 at 11:18 PM.
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07-17-2007, 11:08 PM #18
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07-18-2007, 10:26 AM #20
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^^Damn! that's exactly what i'm tryin' to achieve..just started though, same height and everything.
I'm doing 15min jumprope (high intensity) in the morning with 30sec rest every minute...working my way up to 30minutes
then i do HIIT, basketball liners 5 sets and then moderate pace equivalent to jogging shooting/dribbling practice for 25-35min
I do the HIIT like 6 times per week and the jumprope 5 times...we'll see if i can look like homeboy above me
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07-18-2007, 12:32 PM #21
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07-18-2007, 12:47 PM #23
Originally Posted by monb00
I usually do 5 miles in the morning and 5 in the evening 5-6 days a week
damn dog.. how do you keep your legs/shins/ankles from getting sore?? And how much do you eat? u must eat a lot of carbs i'm guessing
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07-18-2007, 12:49 PM #24
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+1 thats when i know its time for new running shoes, shins start to hurt.
And just because the shoes look good doesnt mean they're not worn out. I started running with a girl and she was having bad shin splints i asked her how long shes had her shoes she told me 3 yrs. I told her it was her shoes and she didnt believe me, long story short she ended up buy new shoes and stopped having splints
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