Hey guys im new to the site, just joined today actually, and was wanting some advice on gaining weight and muscle. I'll be a sophomore in highschool this year coming up and weigh around 145 lbs. and im 6 feet tall, so yea, a bit on the skinny side. I am the starting varsity quarterback for our football team and i was wanting some information on gaining weight, gaining muscle, and muscle mass and becoming stronger. I am pretty relatively new to weightlifting other than when our team works out through the spring and summer. And genetics are DEFINATELY against me, i was bigger in the 8th grade than my dad was whenever he married my mom. I have a very high metabolism. My goal is to play college football one day and being 6 feet tall and 145 pounds just wont cut it. My football IQ and ability is set and good to go, the only negative thing i have working against me is the size. if anyone has any helpful advice what so ever for me, please share it. All help is greatly appreciated!
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07-04-2007, 05:30 PM #1
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I Desperately Need Some Advice On Gaining Weight And Muscle
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07-04-2007, 05:32 PM #2
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Also, i want to set some realistic goals for my size and i also want to keep my size, im a very mobile quarterback who is real fast but i'd like to keep this speed as best as i can while im getting bigger. My goals in my size is to be around the 185-200 before my senior year begins. again, thanks for any help
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07-04-2007, 05:32 PM #3
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07-04-2007, 05:45 PM #4
eat 6-8 meals a day. the more meals the less you have to eat per meal. for now, aim for about 3,000-3,500 cals. ofcourse you should also lift weights regularly.
eat the following:
oats
tuna
chicken
fish
eggs
milk
brown rice
veggies fruits
seafood
wheat bread
cottage cheese
take the following supps:
whey protein
multi vitamins
try to stay away from sodas and sugar as much as possible
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07-04-2007, 06:43 PM #5
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Eat what he said but for starters just to start out
eat every hour. Just a meal, like eat say peanut butter sandwhich and apple and gronola bar or w/e but eat it every hour and then by the 4th or 5th day you will wanting to eat more and more and progresivly you will get your eating habits up and be able to take more and more in then just skip to 5-8 meals a day but larger quantities.I begin tomorrow. Eighteen weeks in this dark hole. 126 days of pain. 3024 hours of hunger and desire. I'm already counting the minutes, the seconds When it's over, I'll step into the light. I will shine...
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07-04-2007, 07:00 PM #6
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You should never feel hungry, ever...keep the cardio to a minimum also.
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07-04-2007, 07:27 PM #7
Listen to what these people say..lift heavy and eat a lot. Another thing is to make sure you practice your throwing motion very often even during the offseason and keep that shoulder loose, sometimes when a QB bulks up they lose some range in motion and flexibilty in there shoulder but if you throw a lot of balls while you bulk up you will be fine
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07-04-2007, 08:35 PM #8
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Alright, thanks alot guys i juss made a big grocery list out lol for some good foods to eat, all this is real helpful and i appreciate it. What are the most effective kinds of supplements or anything that can give me a boost in reaching my goals. And if its not to much trouble give me a bit of information about it, I use 100% whey protein but other than that i dont really know to much about the supplements and what they do. Thanks again
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07-04-2007, 08:56 PM #9
The whey is good, I would of said weight gainer and see how all that works out and maybe once this season ends I would try a creatine mono and there is plenty of info about these supplements on this site. If you take creatine I suggest cycling it because a lot of peoples body gets use to it and stops producing it but either way make sure you stop taking it a month before the season so all the water that you gain from it will go away and won't slow you down.
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07-04-2007, 08:59 PM #10
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07-04-2007, 09:25 PM #12
I don't take it anymore but I have and I gained muscle and water and once you stop taking it as long as you keep working out you will lose the water and keep the muscle. And for it draining water from your body, it is suggested you drink plent of water on it so theres not issue from that. If your diet is good there may not even be any need for this. I wouldn't try it this year though I would do research on it and next offseason if you like what you get from the research then try it, if not don't.
Thanks man
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07-06-2007, 05:55 PM #13
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07-06-2007, 09:22 PM #14
Before you lift, stretch a lot. Get a lot of sleep. Make up a weights program that is beneficial to you, make it probably between 6-15 reps for each excercise and do like 3-5 sets of the excersices. Make up a program in which you can devise it into a schedule, for example, I lift upper body Mon/Wed/Fri, and I do lower body Tues/Thurs. Take a lot protein after your workouts, and STRETCH!
Here's a little sample meal plan that is just general for athletes (choose foods from each)
Breakfast: Fruit smoothie, yogurt, fruit, some type of whole grain or wheat cereal, eggs (protein), breakfast bar, toast, bagels, juice, water
Midmorning: Fruit, yogurt, nutritional bar, turkey/ham/chicken sandwich, water
Lunch: Fish, chicken, beef, turkey....meat.......soup, salad, pasta, potato, sandwich (make sure on whole wheat bread)
Midafternoon: Water, nutriotional bar, fluids, maybe yogurt/fruit
Dinner: (Same approach as lunch) pork, fish, chicken, burger, taters, pasta, salad, veggies, sandwich, soup
Night snack: Nutrition bar, smoothie, fruit, yogurt, snack (pretzels, tortilla chips, wheat crackers)
General breakdown: 60 percent carbs, 20 percent proteins, 20 percent fats (I eat a lot more protein than 20 percent since I'm a similar position as yours)
Drink water continuoulsly, put in protein bars/shakes when u need them (after workouts, before bed)Vertical: 36"
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07-08-2007, 12:19 PM #15
Okay...so you want to put on 40 to 55 pounds of muscle in the next two years, while retaining your speed and agility, and as one respondent has added, maintaining your flexibility and range of motion.
No, that's not a lead-in to saying you can't do it! You can, but it's going to take some real dedication on your part.
Some good advice so far -- get the frequency of your meals up first, and then get your total intake up. You're doing whey protein, vitamins. You've discussed creatine. Before you worry about creatine, I'd recommend adding branch chain aminos, and some extra L-glutamine beyond what's in the BCAA complex.
There's been mention of going to a mass gainer, and I would agree. I happen to be a Beverly International customer, and a long time advocate of their products. I'd say take a look at them. They're based in Cincinnati, so wherever you are in W.Va they're not too far away.
When you feel you've got your meal frequency up and your calories up, I'd say take a look at the following article: http://www.spn-supplements.com/james. Got both a diet and workout schedule leading to the kind of lean fitness you seem to have specified. He's got lots of threads here on bb.com if you want more than from the article.
An odd/weird recommendation: if you don't have a specific flexibility program, find someplace near you that teaches Tai Chi and get to doing it every morning. A QB can never have enough body awareness and balance which this develops.
One last thing...if you turn out to be really good at QB and get recruited, you can't go to WVU, you gotta come west here to USC! lol!
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07-08-2007, 06:40 PM #16
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07-09-2007, 09:34 AM #17
Gosh, Dakota! You've already got two top ten Division I teams (well, at least their fans) squabbling over where you're gonna go to college! Not bad! lol!
Hey Travis! That'd be a great game, though, between the Mountaineers and the Trojans! If it happens, we'll have to chat!Last edited by KenTMaroon; 07-09-2007 at 09:40 AM.
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07-10-2007, 09:14 AM #18
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07-10-2007, 03:14 PM #22
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At 15 years old your hormone profile may not be near it's peak yet. You may have success in becoming stronger , But, you may not gain much mass(body weight). Everyone is different. When your body is ready you will know.
Learn to lift properly(Powerlifting, Olympic lifts & general weight training(bodybuilding), Eat clean. Lots of protein and veggies(fruit) , complex carbs.
Get to bed at a reasonable time & try to wake up at the same time each day.
The most important thing to remember here is Patience & Consistency will pay off ,big time, in the long run. There are no short cuts . Just Hard work.
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07-12-2007, 05:22 AM #26
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Plyometrics, you know the red step things we have at the school gym use like a 25lb plate on the highest one go 2 sets of 10 reps then do all of the plyometrics on the link i gave u about them. Work on abs u will need a good innercore cause this area is based of where u will be running at lol we wont see u running michael vick speed but u will be just as fast. But u need to bulk up and get about 180-200lbs so u wont get way layed lol. Thats what im doing, but im a running back u can bulk up and stuff just make sure that we stretch cause if u dont and i dont we will loose speed and u will loose ur qb arm.
Last edited by travisjw; 07-12-2007 at 05:25 AM.
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07-12-2007, 07:28 AM #27
Heres an example of my Diet for you to get an Idea
1. train like a beast ; 2. drink water ; above all 3. eat like a beast
Breakfast
Oatmeal w/ 2 Eggs and 6 egg whites
Snack
Organic Cliff Builder Bar 20 grams of Protein
Lunch
2 Pieces of CHicken Breast topped with Spinach and Tomatos
Snack
Natural PB on Rice Cakes
Post Work out
2 Scoops of Whey w/ banana oatmeal and flax seed oil
Dinner
2 Trader Joe Chicken Burgers with 1 Cup of Brown rice and salsa
Late Night Snack
6 Egg whites
I wouldnt say my calorie count is high because im currently in a cutting/maint. phase but my bulk would consist of more brown rice and carbs with lentils or beans from time to time to up the protein and calories. Oh yea and a jar of natty PB every 5-6 daysLast edited by JarHeaD316; 07-12-2007 at 07:30 AM.
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07-12-2007, 08:36 AM #28
Do the plyos as suggested, but also if you have a solid box or an agility ladder or even just some dots you can do footwork drills. If all you have access to is a place where you could draw out dots(like even on your driveway) put one in the middle and 4 surrouding it about a foot or foot and a half apart. from there you can do star drill(get on one foot and go to the outer dot and back in the middle and repeat around in a circle 5-8 times or so and then switch legs) hopscotch(self-explanitory, up and back is one, you should do about 10-12) then do something like an x pattern on 1 or 2 feet 5-8 times. You can invent other drills and switch up set lengths and how many sets you perform as you feel comfortable with it. I also add in stadium stairs(I do regular 1 foot per step, 2 feet per step, hops up, 1 leg hop ups, run up skipping a stair, hop up skipping a stair, and just recently going laterally. Other days I add in 4-corner drill, Nebraska agility drill, pro-agility drill and related exercises, and either 40-100 yard sprints or shuttle runs of up to 200 yards.
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