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    Exclamation Natural Pros... who is the most ripped/conditioned athlete?

    You know... since Derek and Layne are both competiting as naturals, perhaps they have more insight or information about who owns this title. On another plus side, it can give me something to shoot for as well(comp time at least). The older(more mature/experienced) bb-ers almost ALWAYS say their conditioning is way off on their first outing. Now, i don't want that happening to me cos' i'm wlling to do my homework!
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    Alun Davies
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    Phillip Ricardo Jr
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    Alun Davies
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    And Layne Norton
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    well i'm on my lab computer so i don't have all my pics availabile but here is an idea.

    this is kurt weidner 2 weeks out from a show last year
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    ouch... kurt weidner is REALLY ripped for a natural lol.
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    Alun Davies
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    what about skip la cour? isnt he natural?
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    Originally Posted by BB/MISC View Post
    what about skip la cour? isnt he natural?
    I think that Skip is usually referred to as Drug Free. I personally don't know what the difference between drug free and natural is, but I guess it has to do with different promotions.

    Also out of all of the people Layne listed, the only one I have seen is Rob Hope, and he is amazing.
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    I hijacked this from Layne. Completely blew me away ! This is Alun Davies out of Britain I believe.
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    Originally Posted by semper27 View Post
    I hijacked this from Layne. Completely blew me away ! This is Alun Davies out of Britain I believe.
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    Originally Posted by semper27 View Post
    I hijacked this from Layne. Completely blew me away ! This is Alun Davies out of Britain I believe.
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    Originally Posted by semper27 View Post
    I hijacked this from Layne. Completely blew me away ! This is Alun Davies out of Britain I believe.
    id seen this pic before and i didnt know who it was! thanks. dudes shredded!
    i have pics with my face, and no disgrace!

    if your bods so perfect than why dont you have pics up?

    gaining muscle is easy, its just expensive!

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    I heard it was debated that he wasn't natural?
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    Originally Posted by maffie2 View Post
    I heard it was debated that he wasn't natural?
    any natural competitor who is worth their salt will have people debating whether or not he is natural. It's all speculation from insecure chumps who are just looking for a reason that he looks better than they do
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    Originally Posted by semper27 View Post
    I hijacked this from Layne. Completely blew me away ! This is Alun Davies out of Britain I believe.
    That is fckin awesome. Thanks for posting. This makes me want to train even harder.
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    any natural competitor who is worth their salt will have people debating whether or not he is natural. It's all speculation from insecure chumps who are just looking for a reason that he looks better than they do
    Do you hear alot of rumors on you juicing Layne?

    This ISNT a rip but I dont think you have a look that would be unattainable naturally.....I mean you do lose a good deal of mass when you go down to competitive bodyfat levels...or it seems that way from the pics ive seen.

    AGAIN NOT BASHING LAYNE HE IS AN AMAZING BBer WHO IS VERY GENEROUS WITH HIS TIME/KNOWLEDGE.
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    links to more alun davies please, thats incredible. i know that it should not compare the two, but i think some natural guys get to a better level of conditioning than the ifbb pros.
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    Originally Posted by Rodzilla View Post
    links to more alun davies please, thats incredible. i know that it should not compare the two, but i think some natural guys get to a better level of conditioning than the ifbb pros.
    For some reason I haven't been able to find many photos or even contest history from Davies. I started searching after I first saw the crazy aforementioned photo a while back.

    Would love to see more photos of him in that top-notch conditioning!!
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    Originally Posted by Bodysteele View Post
    Do you hear alot of rumors on you juicing Layne?

    This ISNT a rip but I dont think you have a look that would be unattainable naturally.....I mean you do lose a good deal of mass when you go down to competitive bodyfat levels...or it seems that way from the pics ive seen.

    AGAIN NOT BASHING LAYNE HE IS AN AMAZING BBer WHO IS VERY GENEROUS WITH HIS TIME/KNOWLEDGE.
    well I disagree with you on losing mass. Well I do lose fat mass, but I've never lost that much muscle... if any. Look at my stage pics & my offseason pics. Fat takes up mass... so yea I guess I do lose mass LOL
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    any natural competitor who is worth their salt will have people debating whether or not he is natural. It's all speculation from insecure chumps who are just looking for a reason that he looks better than they do
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    well I disagree with you on losing mass. Well I do lose fat mass, but I've never lost that much muscle... if any. Look at my stage pics & my offseason pics. Fat takes up mass... so yea I guess I do lose mass LOL
    lol yea honestly Bodysteele find me a compitition pic of layne not looking jacked as hell with tons of muscle and ill have to agree with you but something tells me youll have a hard time finding that lol
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    Originally Posted by str8flexed View Post
    well I disagree with you on losing mass. Well I do lose fat mass, but I've never lost that much muscle... if any. Look at my stage pics & my offseason pics. Fat takes up mass... so yea I guess I do lose mass LOL
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    lol yea honestly Bodysteele find me a compitition pic of layne not looking jacked as hell with tons of muscle and ill have to agree with you but something tells me youll have a hard time finding that lol
    Yeah I think what a lot of people don't realize is how much fat mass we have even when we think we are lean. Fat does help create the illusion of you being bigger especially while in clothes. I'm not sure what pics you are referring to where he doesn't look big but if you are comparing them to the newer bulk pics he put up you have to realize he has also again put on some new muscle.
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