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    Milk vs. Whey protein powder

    1 serving of ON Whey protein = 23g of protein
    1 serving (2 cups) of lowfat milk = 20g of protein

    5 pound bucket of On Whey protein (77 servings) = $30
    1 gallon of milk (8 servings/16 cups) = $2.5

    Therefore I can buy 12 gallons (96 servings) of milk for $30 and get nearly as much protein as I do from powder protein. Am I wasting my money on powder protein? Or are the protein from milk and protein powder (ON Whey) different in some ways?

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    The sugar might be a problem.

    I also believe there is concern with drinking too much milk on a regulary basics but I unfortunately don't know the specifics. I did find this link:
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    A couple small things are the added calories in the milk and that fact that pure whey protein is faster absorbing makes it a better choice post workout. The casein in the milk along with the calories and lactose slow down the absorption process. Just a thought.
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    100 ml of Milk has 3 grams of protein.
    3.8 (a gallon) has 114 grams.

    One serving of Whey has 23 grams.
    For 30$ (it's less than that... ) you get 77 X 23 which is 2541 grams of whey protein and 1368 grams of casein.

    Also, milk has carbs.
    Milk is better as a food, but p/w (and overall best cheap protein) whey is better.
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    Originally Posted by GuhleeMonAhnuld
    Therefore I can buy 12 gallons (96 servings) of milk for $30 and get nearly as much protein as I do from powder protein. Am I wasting my money on powder protein? Or are the protein from milk and protein powder (ON Whey) different in some ways?
    Whey is absorbed quicker, which makes it more practical to use pre and post workout.

    12 gallons of non fat milk has about 16000 calories in it. My protein powder for a comparable amount of protein would be about 8000 calories.

    Milk has a lot of lactose in it.

    I think non fat milk (and non fat cottage cheese, yogurt, cheese) has its place in your diet, I just don't think it is a good replacement for protein powder pre and post workout. In addition to protein powder, I ingest a glass of non fat milk and a serving of non fat plain yogurt every day. These have lots of vitamins, potassium and calcium in them. I also have some meat sources of protein each day which provide various minerals and vitamins.

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    The nutrition label on my milk carton says that 1 cup (240 mL) of milk has 10g of protein and 130 calories. I don't mind the calories. I am currently trying VERY hard to gain weight without success. And I always drink a protein shakes post workout.
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    Both are good at different times my friend, so to rule one out completely in favor of the other doesn't make much sense. Milk can be considered as more of an all day use protein over whey as it's 80% casein in protein content so the proteins would be slower digested, lactose in milk is also low glycemic, and rich in calcium which as recent studies have shown contributes to fat loss,and the only real problem with lactose is some people don't have enough lactase present in their digestive tract to adequately deal with milk on a regular basis, and some claim that milk makes them have a bloated/smooth appearence. Then you have whey, which is a primarily good protein when you need a highly bioavailable, and quick digesting protein source such as in the postworkout arena, or in the morning. They are both very cheap, but contribute in different ways to your overall nutritional arsenal.
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    Thanks. I'm new to bb.com so my rep points probably won't be worth anything, but have a rep point on me anyways.
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    Originally Posted by GuhleeMonAhnuld
    The nutrition label on my milk carton says that 1 cup (240 mL) of milk has 10g of protein and 130 calories. I don't mind the calories. I am currently trying VERY hard to gain weight without success. And I always drink a protein shakes post workout.
    yuck, 2% milkfat? get rid of that junk!
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    Originally Posted by forklift
    yuck, 2% milkfat? get rid of that junk!
    but only 2% of it is junk.

    but seriously. why do you call it junk? what do you suggest then? and why?
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    Originally Posted by GuhleeMonAhnuld
    but only 2% of it is junk.

    but seriously. why do you call it junk? what do you suggest then? and why?
    2% of the milk is fat, mostly saturated fat. If you want the calories and are only drinking small amounts and don't have a cholesterol problem it is ok. I think you are talking about large amounts in this thread, so it is not a healthy choice.

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    So it's ok to drink skim milk as much as I want?

    On a related note, why do so many members here avoid white bread? When they say white bread is 'bad', do they mean bad as in not nutritious, or bad as in unhealthy (like butter or chocolate)?
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    Originally Posted by GuhleeMonAhnuld
    So it's ok to drink skim milk as much as I want?

    On a related note, why do so many members here avoid white bread? When they say white bread is 'bad', do they mean bad as in not nutritious, or bad as in unhealthy (like butter or chocolate)?
    Skim milk can be a healthy portion of your diet. Drink as many calories as you want. Some bodybuilders avoid it because they don't want the calories.

    White bread is made from highly refined white flour. There isn't much nutrition left in it after has been processed and as a consequence what remains is highly glycemic. (simple sugar carbs) Whole wheat bread is preferred. It contains the bran and germ and has fiber. Whole wheat bread is considered a complex carbohydrate. (complex carbs) Simple carbs spike your insulin which leads to insulin insensitivity over time, also known as diabetes. Complex carbs are a slow burn. All carbs give you energy, that is why you need them.

    You, as a bodybuilder, almost always want complex carbs except after you have finished working out. At that time you want protein and some simple carbs spiking your insulin so your muscles repair and adapt (grow). The rest of the time you want to avoid simple carbs.

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