i cant squat,squat...

**jimlifts346** · 10-19-2004, 12:00 AM

its really pissing me off i can squat about 225-235 but i cant get up that high because of the pain when i squat from the preasure of the bar,am i a p*ssy or am i doing somthing wrong?Thanks

**ed073** · 10-19-2004, 12:07 AM

sounds like poor positioning across your shoulders.....is the bar resting on the trap muscle rather than bone? A lot of people new to the squat find the correct position is a lot lower than where they thought.

**jimlifts346** · 10-19-2004, 12:34 AM

oh,thanks alot man,ive been on multiple sites like www.bodybuilding.com and went to exersizes i find squat and they really say notihng about that.thanks a million

**marcFE** · 10-19-2004, 07:46 AM

sounds like poor positioning across your shoulders.....is the bar resting on the trap muscle rather than bone? A lot of people new to the squat find the correct position is a lot lower than where they thought.

Squats are painful when your thin, stupid little spinal bones are the back get in the way!

Fat people have the benefit of insolation so you can put the bar anywhere thats why I liked squats before

But ya, put it on the traps, it should be at the point of being balanced but if you lower it another inch it would probaly roll down your back :P

**JC-orginalbdass** · 10-19-2004, 08:58 AM

Also, make sure everything is nice and tight up there. Pull your shoulder blades down and in, which will naturally get you chest to stick out and give your lower back a slight arch. When you find the perfect placement and keep everything tight, you wont even feel the bar on your back.

**jjh04f** · 10-19-2004, 09:26 AM

Try doing traps 2-3 days before squats so they are a little bigger to aid in cushioning. Also you might want to try to warm up, then go up by only doing one rep to your desired weight. It gets you used to the weight.

**Mark1T** · 10-19-2004, 09:52 AM

Yah, fat people got it going on with squats. Just kidding.

No, you're no pussy. If the bar on your upper back is your problem, then that is not so difficult to overcome. Sounds like you have the strnegth.

Don't be embarrassed to use the "puss-pad." As they say above, work on your traps and over time, you'll be able to wean yourself off the puss-pad.

If anyone bigger than you gives you sh** about it, tell them to just wait two years, and you'll kick all their asses

**$AJ** · 10-19-2004, 09:52 AM

you could be keeping the bar too high. i always keep it low across the back, like almost across the delts. kinda liket his:

http://t-nation.com/assets/images/120box_top.jpg

**nykwan** · 10-19-2004, 11:05 AM

Get a MantaRay.

**jimlifts346** · 10-19-2004, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by marcFE

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Squats are painful when your thin, stupid little spinal bones are the back get in the way!

Fat people have the benefit of insolation so you can put the bar anywhere thats why I liked squats before

But ya, put it on the traps, it should be at the point of being balanced but if you lower it another inch it would probaly roll down your back :P

i wouldnt consider myself thin,i am about 5'9 160 lbs i think i have about 17%bf around there so i got some meat on my bones escpecialy my back,i just cant figure this pain out,but i think im headed on the right track now..

**jimlifts346** · 10-22-2004, 03:44 PM

wooh,squat went from my guess 225 to 275 thanks for the help guys.

**_BigJoe_** · 10-22-2004, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by nykwan

Get a MantaRay.

I can't agree more. I use both the manta ray and the sting ray and they are great. I see no reason why I should suffer for something that is not getting me where I want to go. The pain of the bar adds nothing to the lift so why endure it?

**nykwan** · 10-22-2004, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by _BigJoe_

I can't agree more. I use both the manta ray and the sting ray and they are great. I see no reason why I should suffer for something that is not getting me where I want to go. The pain of the bar adds nothing to the lift so why endure it?

Bingo. I'm not going to be entering any sanctioned powerlifting events and my lifting started for personal satisfaction and aesthetics, so I'll use whatever I need to get the results I want whether it be a Mantaray, gloves, straps, belts, etc.

**zackmurphy** · 10-22-2004, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by jimlifts346

oh,thanks alot man,ive been on multiple sites like www.bodybuilding.com and went to exersizes i find squat and they really say notihng about that.thanks a million

You're using a pad, I hope? The soft thingy over the bar?

**jimlifts346** · 10-22-2004, 10:53 PM

uh no i dont use a pad,i just suck it up and do it,cause my old bro squats 600+ i dont want to cry about 275 or 295,do you know of any places to buy the pad?my brother got me into lifting,taught me how to lift,he told me no pain no gain,and ive just done things his way.

**bobcat** · 10-22-2004, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by jimlifts346

uh no i dont use a pad,i just suck it up and do it,cause my old bro squats 600+ i dont want to cry about 275 or 295,do you know of any places to buy the pad?my brother got me into lifting,taught me how to lift,he told me no pain no gain,and ive just done things his way.

With all due respect, the pain from the bar isnt going to help anything with the gains on your quads...only hamper it because you arent going as heavy as you should. Bottom line: USE A PAD!!!

If you cant find or get one, wrap a medium length towel around the bar to use it as cushion....thats what I do

**$AJ** · 10-23-2004, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by zackmurphy

You're using a pad, I hope? The soft thingy over the bar?

i don't know why people love the pad so much....i used it, but then realized it was hampering my squat....no way you can keep the bar across the back with a pad...it'll just roll off

**bobcat** · 10-23-2004, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by $AJ

i don't know why people love the pad so much....i used it, but then realized it was hampering my squat....no way you can keep the bar across the back with a pad...it'll just roll off

UHHH.....no....

**$AJ** · 10-23-2004, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by bobcat

UHHH.....no....

yea, you can really set the bar properly

http://t-nation.com/assets/images/120boxbtm.jpg

and put a pad on it and not expect it to roll off your back as you come down and back

**Ev1** · 10-23-2004, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by $AJ

yea, you can really set the bar properly

http://t-nation.com/assets/images/120boxbtm.jpg

and put a pad on it and not expect it to roll off your back as you come down and back

Why keep using this fat dude only doing 135 as an example, the pic barely shows useful positioning of the bar anyways.

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