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    Supplements that will help increase dopamine response

    Hey looking for something that will increase the dopamine in my system. Not Seratonin.

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    increased dopamine without increasing seratonin ? good luck

    Theanine / GABA (?) are possibilities..
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g
    increased dopamine without increasing seratonin ? good luck

    Theanine / GABA (?) are possibilities..
    Well, how about increase BOTH?
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    Originally Posted by The Conqueror
    Hey looking for something that will increase the dopamine in my system. Not Seratonin.

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    m4ohn seems to affect dopamine positively. But there is no data. Also, its unknown how affects seratonin, if any.
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    selegiline- europe- mao-i B inhibitor

    tyramine

    acetyl-l-tyrosine- this may increase serotonin as well, depends on a lot of factors
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    If raising dopamine levels were as easy as taking a supplement then it would be BIG news.
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    Been trying to take 5-HTP for anxiety - it's having an opposite effect.
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    Originally Posted by The Conqueror
    Been trying to take 5-HTP for anxiety - it's having an opposite effect.
    try pregnenolone or you can try Pseven, its a 7-oxo and pregnenolone topical.
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    this contains l-dopa, I think that if you want a direct agonist you might be better of with cabergoline.
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    L-Tyrosine Info And Products
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    What is it and where does it come from??

    L-tyrosine is a nonessential organic amino acid that is a building block of protein. It is an organic amino acid due to the presence of a carbon atom in its makeup.

    It is a precursor of the neurotransmitter dopamine, as well as a precursor to the adrenal hormones norepinephrine and epinephrine.1 The body can make L-tyrosine from the amino acid phenylalanine. L-tyrosine rich foods include animal meat, wheat products, oatmeal and seafood.

    What does it do and what scientific studies give evidence to support this?

    L-tyrosine may help athletes avoid overtraining, due to its ability to offset fatigue.2 Because L-tyrosine is a precursor of Dopamine, supplementing with L-tyrosine may heighten mental alertness, increase feelings of well being, decrease feelings of depression, and offset physical and mental fatigue.3,4

    Who needs it and what are some symptoms of deficiency?

    Everyone.

    Populations in need of L-tyrosine include: athletes, the obese or overweight, and the elderly. Hard training athletes may benefit from supplementing with L-tyrosine as it helps to offset fatigue and stress associated with intense training. L-tyrosine also serves to protect the integrity of the skin. Melanin, a substance which acts to protect the skin when the epidermis has been exposed to ultraviolet light, is derived from L-tyrosine. If a shortage of melanin is present within the body [because of a lack of L-tyrosine], skin defenses will be compromised. Melanin, which is derived from L-tyrosine, chemically reacts with sunlight to form a protective shield that protects the deeper layers of skin tissue.

    Because persons suffering from depression frequently have low blood levels of this amino-acid, it may prove beneficial for members of this population to supplement with L-Tyrosine.5 People suffering from neurological degeneracy may also benefit from supplemental L-tyrosine.6

    Members of the obese population may benefit from supplemental L-tyrosine. The thyroid is responsible for the manufacture of T-cells. L-tyrosine influences the manufacture of thyroxin [T-cells], which influences basal metabolic rate. Because of this, L-tyrosine may prove effective for weight loss. Individuals suffering from immune system destroying viruses like HIV, AIDS or hepatitis may find supplementing with L-tyrosine to be beneficial. Disease processes that ravage the immune system often induce catabolism, and thus muscle wasting. A loss of muscular protein results in increased for osteoporosis and bone fractures. To retain bodily protein, skeletal muscle, and thus anabolism, supplementing with L-tyrosine may be beneficial.

    How much should be taken? Are there any side effects?

    At this time clear dosing guidelines have not yet been established, so it is best to do what is known as "tolerance mapping".

    Take a small dosage for one week, note the benefits and the side effects, and increase the dosage until the benefits are maximized and the side effects minimized. Over time the two will converge and you will hit the optimal dose. This process is similar to "receptor mapping" for bodybuilders who use insulin and steroids.

    Many protein powders on the market are fortified with amino acids, including tyrosine. With this in mind, pay particular attention to how much tyrosine you are ingesting from all sources. No side effects have been reported, although as with any amino-acid, overdose is a possibility. Individuals suffering from psychiatric conditions should consult a qualified medical practitioner prior to the use of supplemental L-tyrosine.

    If you do not feel comfortable following the above-described procedure, it is always best to follow the directions as prescribed on the products label.

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    There are many different brand names that manufacture supplemental L-Tyrosine. Below is a listing of all available brands that may be purchased here on Bodybuilding.com.
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    Originally Posted by The Conqueror
    Hey looking for something that will increase the dopamine in my system. Not Seratonin.

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    Why do you want to increase dopamine?
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    Originally Posted by pogue
    Why do you want to increase dopamine?

    in the belief that, in his case, an increase in dopamine will be anxiolytic. Which it can be, though typically dopamine is viewed as anxiogenic. But its really all ratio and response. Dopaminergics can definitely be anxiolytic.
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    Originally Posted by Kraftydog
    in the belief that, in his case, an increase in dopamine will be anxiolytic. Which it can be, though typically dopamine is viewed as anxiogenic. But its really all ratio and response. Dopaminergics can definitely be anxiolytic.
    Well, that may be, but it just sounds like the methodology to simply say "I want to increase dopamine" is somewhat misguided. There are certain compounds that have anxiolytic properties, like phenibut, benzos and etc which help with anxiety, and some are dopaminerginc and some are not.

    Anyway, there's a lot more to be said on this I'm sure, but I would try to understand what he's trying to do before suggesting something.
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    Would Vitex increase dopamine at all? It has anti-prolactin properties when taken in doses over 400mg (verified by a study) - and apparently dopamine and prolactin are tied together (high prolactin lower dopamine, low prolactin higher dopamine?).
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    While I have not tried it, you might want to consider TYR2, it has 100mg tyramine and 100mg of acetyl-l-tyrosine. At least from a dopamine standpoint this might be right up your alley.
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    Originally Posted by Kraftydog
    While I have not tried it, you might want to consider TYR2, it has 100mg tyramine and 100mg of acetyl-l-tyrosine. At least from a dopamine standpoint this might be right up your alley.

    took 3 of those by mistake once

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    If you want to increase your dopamine levels you could always try this .

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