Best Pre, During and Post workout supplements?

[crazycanuck7901]

Id love to know what you guys think about some of your favorte pre workout, post workout, and workout supplements! What works? What doesnt? What gets you pumped and focused?

[cal62887]

Carnage + SP250, Xtend + Sizeon, Torrent......

[crazycanuck7901]

Carnage + SP250, Xtend + Sizeon, Torrent......

Who makes those? What did you think of those products?

[cal62887]

Carnage is made by Millenium Sports technology, and it's a Beta Alanine supplement. Sp250 is a preworkout supp made by gaspari. Sizeon is a great creatine product also made by gaspari, and it comes in Tabs or Powder. Xtend is a BCAA and Citruline Malate product made by Scivation (tastes good and effective especially on a cut) and Torrent is one of hte best PWOs out there. Do a search for these products on the threads and you'll get great feedback.

[pinprik]

I'd recommend NO. Xplode as Pre-Workout, SizeON Or Nitro G as Intra-Workout & Any Isolate Whey Pro for Post-Workout.

[cal62887]

I'd recommend NO. Xplode as Pre-Workout, SizeON Or Nitro G as Intra-Workout & Any Isolate Whey Pro for Post-Workout.

nitro g and sizeon are vastly different products...

[ShaneBe]

Pre: I'm of the opinion that caffeine preworkout, especially combined with NO products, is a bad idea. It's a vasoconstrictor, which means less blood is able to get into your muscles. NO products are pretty gimmicky as well, but some people like them for an increased pump that doesn't really do much besides feel good. Proper nutrition is really your best preworkout "supplement". Something like a half-cup cooked oats and a scoop of protein powder 1 hour or so before you lift.

During: I've never used Size-On but people seem to like it. Really if you are eating well you don't need anything during a workout besides water. BCAA's are becoming increasingly popular for workout nutrition, as well as a mixture of BCAAs and Creatine - say Green Mag and Purple Wraath (both of which I've never used).

Post: PWO supplements? Creatine, whey, and food. The most insane stuff will get written about post-workout nutrition. However, you will notice most of it doesn't really reference any studies, and the ones referenced often don't directly refer to studies performed on individuals doing weight training. Weight training is obviously different than 2-3 hour long marathons or cycling races. The "insulin spike" so often revered is pretty much ignored, or at least severely less revered, by many individuals who know what they are doing. A moderate amount of low-GI carbs, (again, how about some ground up oats?) with whey following your workout is a good idea, and reloading your body with creatine is also a good idea. (Creatine pre-workout doesn't actually effect the creatine levels of your muscles whatsoever, as the body has to process it and build up creatine stores in the muscles themselves. So taking it post workout just serves to keep your levels up. Again: the creatine you take before your workout is doing nothing for the levels in your muscles.)

I think that the best way to look at it is: keep it simple, stupid. Most supplements are gimmicks or overpriced and inferior ways to replace real food.

[HSP10]

Pre: I'm of the opinion that caffeine preworkout, especially combined with NO products, is a bad idea. It's a vasoconstrictor, which means less blood is able to get into your muscles. NO products are pretty gimmicky as well, but some people like them for an increased pump that doesn't really do much besides feel good. Proper nutrition is really your best preworkout "supplement". Something like a half-cup cooked oats and a scoop of protein powder 1 hour or so before you lift.

During: I've never used Size-On but people seem to like it. Really if you are eating well you don't need anything during a workout besides water. BCAA's are becoming increasingly popular for workout nutrition, as well as a mixture of BCAAs and Creatine - say Green Mag and Purple Wraath (both of which I've never used).

Post: PWO supplements? Creatine, whey, and food. The most insane stuff will get written about post-workout nutrition. However, you will notice most of it doesn't really reference any studies, and the ones referenced often don't directly refer to studies performed on individuals doing weight training. Weight training is obviously different than 2-3 hour long marathons or cycling races. The "insulin spike" so often revered is pretty much ignored, or at least severely less revered, by many individuals who know what they are doing. A moderate amount of low-GI carbs, (again, how about some ground up oats?) with whey following your workout is a good idea, and reloading your body with creatine is also a good idea. (Creatine pre-workout doesn't actually effect the creatine levels of your muscles whatsoever, as the body has to process it and build up creatine stores in the muscles themselves. So taking it post workout just serves to keep your levels up. Again: the creatine you take before your workout is doing nothing for the levels in your muscles.)

I think that the best way to look at it is: keep it simple, stupid. Most supplements are gimmicks or overpriced and inferior ways to replace real food.

Repped for PWO explaining.

For pre-workout, I love NO Shotgun. The taste is the nastiest of which the likes that you've never even fathomed, but the pumps, energy, and the protein and NO fix pre-workout gets me going (32g equals 2 scoops). Not cheap, but not out of reach either. VPX makes it.

During a workout, water does it for me. Just keep it basic in my opinion. Occasionally I will put 1/2 scoop NO Shotgun but I am on a budget so I don't even worry about it most of the time.

After a workout, I take CellMass (BSN) right after and ON 100% Whey (Optimum Nutrition) fifteen minutes after having CellMass. Afterwards, just constantly eating food is my formula.

[Demonhunter323]

Repped for PWO explaining.

For pre-workout, I love NO Shotgun. The taste is the nastiest of which the likes that you've never even fathomed, but the pumps, energy, and the protein and NO fix pre-workout gets me going (32g equals 2 scoops). Not cheap, but not out of reach either. VPX makes it.

During a workout, water does it for me. Just keep it basic in my opinion. Occasionally I will put 1/2 scoop NO Shotgun but I am on a budget so I don't even worry about it most of the time.

After a workout, I take CellMass (BSN) right after and ON 100% Whey (Optimum Nutrition) fifteen minutes after having CellMass. Afterwards, just constantly eating food is my formula.

yeah, i do the same thing except insted of ON 100% Whey (Optimum Nutrition), for me its NitroTech lol, and before bed I usually have 2 scoops of MuscleMilk.

[leafs43]

pre workout I like to take some NO (partial to shock therapy due to the price and it is a kick in the pants), and get some aminos flowing in your system. Along with a multi vitamin with breakfast.

During workout I do a mix of purple wraath and half a serving of storm.

Then post workout I do a combo of whey, waxy maize starch (bought it in bulk) and the other half serving of storm.

So far this combo has worked wonders in not only recovery but also endurance wise I am at the point where I am supersetting everything and not running out of fuel too early. The results speak for themselves, up 5 pounds in roughly 3 weeks.

But my diet has been very good as well.

[crazycanuck7901]

Pre: I'm of the opinion that caffeine preworkout, especially combined with NO products, is a bad idea. It's a vasoconstrictor, which means less blood is able to get into your muscles. NO products are pretty gimmicky as well, but some people like them for an increased pump that doesn't really do much besides feel good. Proper nutrition is really your best preworkout "supplement". Something like a half-cup cooked oats and a scoop of protein powder 1 hour or so before you lift.

During: I've never used Size-On but people seem to like it. Really if you are eating well you don't need anything during a workout besides water. BCAA's are becoming increasingly popular for workout nutrition, as well as a mixture of BCAAs and Creatine - say Green Mag and Purple Wraath (both of which I've never used).

Post: PWO supplements? Creatine, whey, and food. The most insane stuff will get written about post-workout nutrition. However, you will notice most of it doesn't really reference any studies, and the ones referenced often don't directly refer to studies performed on individuals doing weight training. Weight training is obviously different than 2-3 hour long marathons or cycling races. The "insulin spike" so often revered is pretty much ignored, or at least severely less revered, by many individuals who know what they are doing. A moderate amount of low-GI carbs, (again, how about some ground up oats?) with whey following your workout is a good idea, and reloading your body with creatine is also a good idea. (Creatine pre-workout doesn't actually effect the creatine levels of your muscles whatsoever, as the body has to process it and build up creatine stores in the muscles themselves. So taking it post workout just serves to keep your levels up. Again: the creatine you take before your workout is doing nothing for the levels in your muscles.)

I think that the best way to look at it is: keep it simple, stupid. Most supplements are gimmicks or overpriced and inferior ways to replace real food.

Well in fact NO is a vasodiolator, not a constrictor. Caffene is a stimulant, therefore affecting an immediate insulin spike within the system. Though, that spike will not last as long as a good NO for pre workout. I believe you are on the right thought process though. You likely still havent found the right supplement stack for you. Each diet and stack is like an individual fingerprint.

[crazycanuck7901]

Repped for PWO explaining.

For pre-workout, I love NO Shotgun. The taste is the nastiest of which the likes that you've never even fathomed, but the pumps, energy, and the protein and NO fix pre-workout gets me going (32g equals 2 scoops). Not cheap, but not out of reach either. VPX makes it.

During a workout, water does it for me. Just keep it basic in my opinion. Occasionally I will put 1/2 scoop NO Shotgun but I am on a budget so I don't even worry about it most of the time.

After a workout, I take CellMass (BSN) right after and ON 100% Whey (Optimum Nutrition) fifteen minutes after having CellMass. Afterwards, just constantly eating food is my formula.

brutally honest, i love it, thanks for the opinion

[Bodysteele]

3 things im sure of,

You want to use creatine bc its reputable and VERY cheap now in bulk.

Xtend or a like BCAA is almost as important and useful as creatine.

And Whey is your best option IMMEDIATELY after working out.

If you cover those 3 bases in my mind your 90% of optimal anyway supplement wise.

[40-Yard Dash_2]

Id love to know what you guys think about some of your favorte pre workout, post workout, and workout supplements! What works? What doesnt? What gets you pumped and focused?

Pre
Whey
Creatine (Xceed, Clout)
NO Limits
Beta Alanine

During
BCAA's

Post
Replenish
Glucophase XR


Replenish

Replenish FAQ
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=976716

To Buy Replenish
http://www.designersupps.com/


NO-Limits

To Buy: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/no.html

The writeup: http://www.designersupps.com/product...s/nolimits.pdf

The FAQ: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1585641

[ShaneBe]

Well in fact NO is a vasodiolator, not a constrictor. Caffene is a stimulant, therefore affecting an immediate insulin spike within the system. Though, that spike will not last as long as a good NO for pre workout. I believe you are on the right thought process though. You likely still havent found the right supplement stack for you. Each diet and stack is like an individual fingerprint.

Caffeine is the vasoconstrictor, directly competing with the NO. The supplement companies put caffeine and other stimulants into their preworkout products to get people feeling jacked up. They are gimmicky as all get out, IMO.

[pinprik]

nitro g and sizeon are vastly different products...

Indeed, but both considered as Intra-Workout Supplement :-)

[young_squatter]

Id love to know what you guys think about some of your favorte pre workout, post workout, and workout supplements! What works? What doesnt? What gets you pumped and focused?

Pre-Workout: Vasoxplode
During Workout: Xtend
Post-Workout: Whey Isolate+Waxy Maize+Creatine+Leucine

[crazycanuck7901]

What is your experience with either supplement?

[fkjr2]

Pre

White flood - this stuff is great - makes me amped and focused to lift

During

Purple Wraath - seems to keep my workout pace steady for longer
Green Mag - need to split this up because the magnesium is hitting my stomach bad

Post

1.5 scoops ON whey with
1 cup quick oats
2 spoons dextrose


Rest!

[kcorzatt]

This is what I've been doing for the last several months and have been getting great results:

30 min Pre-Workout - Vasoxplode with 2 scoops of Xtend (great for increased energy, focus, & pump)
During Workout & Cardio - 6 scoops Xtend and Substance WPI (increased recovery & protein synthesis)
30 min. Post Workout - Whole food meal

[pinprik]

nitro g and sizeon are vastly different products...

Yeah but both maybe taken intra/workout

[Jayman30187]

In personal experience...


Best pre workout I have tried

Shock Therapy
VasoXplode
Raganork (even though I had a problem one container and Millenium didn't care)
Met Rx Amped
SuperCharge
Armageddon
Abb Speed stack

Best while lifting supps

Evolution by Star Chem Labs
Purple Wraath
Cytomax
Hammer heed


Best Post workout supplements

Storm
Protein Powder
GNC mono creatine
Six Star CEE

[Metallicats826]

Pre: Gakic & Aplodan
During: SizeOn + BCAA's (PW or Xtend)
PWO: Anator + Storm and a good protein shake

[crazycanuck7901]

Pre: Gakic & Aplodan
During: SizeOn + BCAA's (PW or Xtend)
PWO: Anator + Storm and a good protein shake

I would have to agree with the BCAA's

havent tried Anator or sizeon, but the size-on seems to be a consistent item on here.

[Mo34Hockey]

Pre - 3 Grams of Bulk Beta-Alanine + Super Pump 250 or Shock Therapy

During - 1-2 Scoops of Purple Wraath (havn't tried Xtend) + Size-On

Post- 40-60g of WaxyMaize Starch with 1-2g of Bulk Beta-Alanine and Storm (if on budget and can't afford Size-On) + 1 Scoop of ON 100% whey with 12 ounces of milk 15-25 minutes later. (Torrent is GREAT if you have the money...I Don't)

Super Pump 250 and Size-On are when you have a little extra money to spend and want to spoil yourself for a month,

Shock Therapy and Storm are both also GREAT and rediculously cheap for the amount of servings you get, great when a you are little tighter on money!

[nuyorican00]

Pre: RPM, Gakic, Animal Pump, Cordygen5, Amped, Supercharge, no-shotgun
During: Sizeon & Purple Wraath
Post: Torrent, Myozene, followed by Muscle Milk

[crazycanuck7901]

Pre: RPM, Gakic, Animal Pump, Cordygen5, Amped, Supercharge, no-shotgun
During: Sizeon & Purple Wraath
Post: Torrent, Myozene, followed by Muscle Milk

again, im noticing a serious trend for during a workout. Size-On, Purple Wraath and BCAA's

Would you say to take all of it, or either the size-on with bcaa's or purple wrath with bcaa's?

[Mo34Hockey]

again, im noticing a serious trend for during a workout. Size-On, Purple Wraath and BCAA's

Would you say to take all of it, or either the size-on with bcaa's or purple wrath with bcaa's?

I personally think Artic Lemon Ice Size-On with 1-2 Scoops of Purple Wraath in a 32oz Nalgeine bottle with 3-4 ice cubes is delicious, but that might just be me.

[Metallicats826]

Purple Wraath is a BCAA/EAA product. you dont need any addition BCAA's with it. i'd go with the above poster

[MoonMan12]

I like WF pre workout, and gatorade at the beginning w/ mono.