Jay Cutler four weeks out from the Mr. Olympia

[gjoe]

these pics were taken over the weekend in San Fran. He was guest posing. tell me what you think.

[LatsMakeTheMan]

Looks good....not nearly as massive as Ronnie, but a more visually pleasing packing IMO

Would need to see some back shots to get a better idea.

[Z3R0-CooL]

DAMN!!! his thighs are alot bigger than they used to be and they are ****ing shredded

[will-work4ANDRO]

he looks like he's in good condition, although i have him placing third this year, behind ronnie and cormier. but the none the less he looks very cut.

[wildturkey]

He has the best looking quads in the business imho

Nick.

[Natural Science]

he looks good, but im putting cormier in front of him. I think its time chris got his dues and hes been busting his ass all year.

I think itll be:

1-ronnie
2-chris
3-dexter or jay
4 dexter or jay

[Baracoda]

Damn.

Didn't think Cutler will look like that, deff a big improvment imho.

Looks like he added some size and got even more shredded in legs and chest area, usually his front lat hides all the striations in his chest in the past years now he's starting to following the Ronnie chest look...

Scary change, wishing him the best.

[AUSSIE PRIDE]

I think Ronnie still has his measure.

Jay will be second or third, behind C.Cormier.

[spankey2]

i think cormier is sooooooooo overrated, i mean ok, but we've seen him on his peak on past years its not like we have never seen him like in this years arnold classic no way he'll be over cutler

[RealDeal2099]

Based on the posted pictures, I would say that Jay has improved his size since the 2004 Arnold and made considerable improvements in his arms. Thighs are huge and shredded, per usual, and his waist, albeit a little thick in the hips, is tight and hard. Though Ronnie may seem unbeatable, he has never been the most consistent with his conditioning, often showing up at less than his best following a great showing (think 2001 Olympia). I'll peg Jay for taking the winner's circle...always liked to root for the underdog. Peace!

[ctgblue]

To me it looks like Jay is really BRINGING IT this year.
Anybody but Ronnie (unless he screwws the pooch) is gonna have a hard time beating Jay.
His work ethic is second to none and he does not often come in "off" as some of the others mentioned are notorious for.
It's pay per view for me again this year, I hope it's gonna be good.

[ctgblue]

To me it looks like Jay is really BRINGING IT this year.
Anybody but Ronnie (unless he screws the pooch) is gonna have a hard time beating Jay.
His work ethic is second to none and he does not often come in "off" as some of the others mentioned are notorious for.
It's pay per view for me again this year, I hope it's gonna be good.

[forklift]

these pics were taken over the weekend in San Fran. He was guest posing. tell me what you think.

daammm!!!

[CHIBI]

He has the best looking quads in the business imho

Nick.

Me too

[Max Protein]

He looks a little thicker around the waist than he has been, but there's a lot of improvement in his lats.
Also he needs to take that stupid-ass grin off his face when he's posing.

[johnnyironboard]

Huge!!

[RealDeal2099]

There's a great post by ArnoldAnabo over on the Muscle Mayhem forums comparing Jay's condition 4 weeks out from the Olympia this year to his 2001 Olympia showing. Check out the link below...Jay's condition four weeks out from the front is comparable to his 2001 showing, with improved lat sweep and trap thickness...if he can dry out the back and glutes like he did for the 2004 Arnold look for Ronnie to be fighting for his Sandow.

http://www.chadnicholls.net/forums/s...ad.php?t=19005

Peace!

[goth666]

lets just hope he can keep that condition come October 30th. *crosses fingers*



*uncrosses fingers realizing it doesnt matter since Ronnie is king*

[RealDeal2099]

lets just hope he can keep that condition come October 30th. *crosses fingers*



*uncrosses fingers realizing it doesnt matter since Ronnie is king*

After Ronnie won the Arnold Classic in 2001, many people thought he was unbeatable, but seven months later he showed up at the Olympia in one of his worst conditions ever. The 2004 Olympia will be all about who is in shape...if Ronnie is, then yeah, he is king, but if he is off, with the cuts in his thighs and abs washed out as we've seen before, look for a new champion. Peace!

[goth666]

After Ronnie won the Arnold Classic in 2001, many people thought he was unbeatable, but seven months later he showed up at the Olympia in one of his worst conditions ever. The 2004 Olympia will be all about who is in shape...if Ronnie is, then yeah, he is king, but if he is off, with the cuts in his thighs and abs washed out as we've seen before, look for a new champion. Peace!

hahahahahaha okie dokie.

[gjoe]

After Ronnie won the Arnold Classic in 2001, many people thought he was unbeatable, but seven months later he showed up at the Olympia in one of his worst conditions ever. The 2004 Olympia will be all about who is in shape...if Ronnie is, then yeah, he is king, but if he is off, with the cuts in his thighs and abs washed out as we've seen before, look for a new champion. Peace!

i just enjoy how the anti-ronnie fans always make reference to the 2001 Olympia. yet the same fans don't reference a more recent Mr. O like last year when he made golden boy Jay and everyone else look like giddy, little school girls. If Chad Nicholls is correct in his assessment of Ronnie thus far , then lights fcuking out !!! hoist Sandow 7. Arnold you have company. Lee there is someone in your rear view mirror!

[goth666]

i just enjoy how the anti-ronnie fans always make reference to the 2001 Olympia. yet the same fans don't reference a more recent Mr. O like last year when he made golden boy Jay and everyone else look like giddy, little school girls. If Chad Nicholls is correct in his assessment of Ronnie thus far , then lights fcuking out !!! hoist Sandow 7.

werd. that's all the "Ronnie haters" can make a reference to.

Arnold you have company. Lee there is someone in your rear view mirror!

LOL

[AMG]

Cutler looks great. He's going to be ripped to the bone come Olympia time.

[RealDeal2099]

goth666 and gjoe-

Sounds like you brothers are the haters here, not me. If you recall my aforementioned post, I stated that Ronnie indeed is the best if he is in shape. His win in 2003 can attest to that. However, as it stands several pros, notably Jay, Dennis James, and Dexter Jackson, have made significant improvements over the last year and are certainly capable of taking the fight to Ronnie if he is off. The fact of the matter is that though Ronnie raised the bar last year, the gap between himself and the other top competators is once again closing. If you really think Ronnie cannot be beaten ever then you are not looking at things realistically.

[Natural Science]

goth666 and gjoe-

Sounds like you brothers are the haters here, not me. If you recall my aforementioned post, I stated that Ronnie indeed is the best if he is in shape. His win in 2003 can attest to that. However, as it stands several pros, notably Jay, Dennis James, and Dexter Jackson, have made significant improvements over the last year and are certainly capable of taking the fight to Ronnie if he is off. The fact of the matter is that though Ronnie raised the bar last year, the gap between himself and the other top competators is once again closing. If you really think Ronnie cannot be beaten ever then you are not looking at things realistically.

Ill try and say this in the most unbiased way possible.

No one is denying that Ronnie cannot be beaten. Hes been beaten by gunter and that is one of the main reasons why people think he is unstoppable at this point. He was consistenly comming out of shape in shows and then finally, someone beat him. That lit a fire under his ass and he has come back in the best condition of his life. This alone, not his physique, is what makes him unstoppable.

Now with Jay winning, its really not that impossible. First of all, lets look at history. Ronnie, in his six year reign, has never come in great shape two shows in a row. He looked awesome at the 98 O, the looked flat at the 99. He came in somewhat decent in the 00, then nearly got his ass handed to him against Jay at the 01. Then he came in even worse shape and almost lost to Kevin in 02. Come 03, he presented an unbeatable package. Now the question is, can he reproduce another dominating physique? Its possible. According to Chad Nicholls, he will present an even better physique than last year. Of course, nothing is certain 4 weeks out. Look at how many times Dennis James looked amazing 2 weeks out and flat come contest day. So who knows.

Honestly, Im not rooting for Jay or Ronnie. Neither is a very consistent competitor and I think Chris Cormier has a better physique than both of them. Well see what happens, but honestly, Ronnie probably has a better chance of winning than any two competitors combined.

[goth666]

goth666 and gjoe-

Sounds like you brothers are the haters here, not me. If you recall my aforementioned post, I stated that Ronnie indeed is the best if he is in shape. His win in 2003 can attest to that. However, as it stands several pros, notably Jay, Dennis James, and Dexter Jackson, have made significant improvements over the last year and are certainly capable of taking the fight to Ronnie if he is off. The fact of the matter is that though Ronnie raised the bar last year, the gap between himself and the other top competators is once again closing. If you really think Ronnie cannot be beaten ever then you are not looking at things realistically.

Ronnie can not be beaten as of now. he just cant. unless something severely ****ed up happens, then he just wont be beat. and when i say severely ****ed up, i mean politics. no1 really has the combination of size and conditioning that Ronnie has. Dexter is probably the closest to him with conditioning, but still, its Ronnie. for Ronnie's immense size, he has done a damn good job of keeping his lines. no1 has the full muscle bellies, with the deeeeeep cuts that he has.

Ronnie for #7. TEAM RONNIE!!

[Mrdummy]

looks good for 2nd place

[mybodysucks]

I hate being natural and genetically average!

[dungeon1]

I think all you guys are forgetting something. In 1998 it was Flex Wheeler that was unbeatable, but Ronnie just destroyed everybody. Now all anybody can talk about is how Ronnie is unbeatable. I would look for someone else to leapfrog in front of some people. Victor Martinez is incredible right now, and he's looking to take someones spot in the top five. As for Ronnie losing to Jay, I think Ronnie can only lose to Ronnie. It must be strange to have everyone around you telling you that you can't lose, thats how you get overconfident and sloppy, which BIgRon has shown a penchant for in the past. If Ronnie is off, I think Jay will beat him. Right now it's Jay who is number two in the world, not Dexter or chris or anyone. If Jay can bring his best overall package to the O, neither one of those guys will beat him. The politics are getting scary, but I don't think Weider or Pecker are crazy enough to do somehting blatant. You know what they say though, there is no such thing as bad publicity!

[gjoe]

I think all you guys are forgetting something. In 1998 it was Flex Wheeler that was unbeatable, but Ronnie just destroyed everybody. Now all anybody can talk about is how Ronnie is unbeatable. I would look for someone else to leapfrog in front of some people. Victor Martinez is incredible right now, and he's looking to take someones spot in the top five. As for Ronnie losing to Jay, I think Ronnie can only lose to Ronnie. It must be strange to have everyone around you telling you that you can't lose, thats how you get overconfident and sloppy, which BIgRon has shown a penchant for in the past. If Ronnie is off, I think Jay will beat him. Right now it's Jay who is number two in the world, not Dexter or chris or anyone. If Jay can bring his best overall package to the O, neither one of those guys will beat him. The politics are getting scary, but I don't think Weider or Pecker are crazy enough to do somehting blatant. You know what they say though, there is no such thing as bad publicity!

that's where you and i differ. the way i see it if jay is at his best and chris cormier is at his best, i say cormier wins. but cormier doesn't have jay's discipline.