Damn! too look like that at 18, makes me shudder what he'll be at 24
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06-28-2007, 10:02 AM #31
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06-28-2007, 10:03 AM #32
in the spanish forum where I participate We are talking about him some time ago,here?s the thread.
http://es.fitness.com/forum/fotos/no...-no-10346.html
This guy,for 18 is awsome!
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06-28-2007, 10:05 AM #33
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i want to see a back shot
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06-28-2007, 10:18 AM #34
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thank you, ive stayed 5'10 since i was 13 or 14.....i think i was 5'9 at 13 but the point of the metter is i went from 170 at 14 up to 235 at 17(prePhps ban) back down to 180(medical, personal and alot of issues) and now im back up to 220s a year and a half later, while maintaining the same bodyfat(11-13%).......its possible he could be natural, highly unlikely. chances are he started juicing at 16 or 17 and has been on massive doses of HGH and whatnot for some time. but i dont know him and im not him so im not going to throw around my opinions.
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06-28-2007, 10:28 AM #35
no, but do you look better then some pro's at 18, thats why people are saying that he use, no one knows what age, but he didnt use as a adult obviously, but its obvious that he is on the juice, thats not genetics alone, i dont care how poor his country is, and this kid isnt a poor child reading what the thread starter posted, i gaurantee the sht is easier to get there then it is here...no red tape and goverment crap involved. He obvious has some superb people around him, trainers and maybe even a nutritionist...at 18!. This kid has the POTENTIAL to be a very good IFBB pro but who knows like i said in an earlier thread, right place, right time, the right people around u.
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06-28-2007, 10:35 AM #36
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06-28-2007, 11:40 AM #40
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put him next to any current IFBB'er and he will look small. the pic of him with the girl shows it. if he adds the size necessary to compete with big guys he will look like crap. gl, to him and he looks great but he is never gonna be a mr.olympia, probably not even top in the euro gran prix.
compared to gunter and his competitive wife
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victor ahead slightly???....like when i first had sex i only "slightly" prematurly ejaculated
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06-28-2007, 11:48 AM #41
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06-28-2007, 01:09 PM #46
Wow.....
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06-28-2007, 02:33 PM #50
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That kids Chest and color are amazing. Definitely going to be a future IFBB competitor.... and at 18!
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06-28-2007, 02:50 PM #51
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06-28-2007, 02:56 PM #52
lol at the people who said he could be natural... alrite. look at the top natural pros in the world, who have been training for about as long as this kid has been living. they have excellent genetics, willpower, etc. to become a top natural pro, and they dont even compare to this kid who is 18. end of steroid discussion.
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06-28-2007, 02:58 PM #53
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06-28-2007, 03:02 PM #54
Don't want to take anything away from the kid because he looks great -- especially his serratus and abdominals. I could be wrong but from the pictures it looks like he is short and historically, short guys have not faired to well in the IFBB.
Also, gyno is very common in teenagers (even those not on juice) but it is highly unlikely that this guy achieved this level of muscularity without juice.
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06-28-2007, 03:02 PM #55
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06-28-2007, 03:07 PM #56
Ill admit he looked amazing in the first few pics...excellent flow, proportions, conditioning and muscularity...
BUT THEN THE PIC OF HIM NEXT TO THE GIRL PUT IT ALL IN PERSPECTIVE.
He cant compete at 5"3 standing next to normal heighted guys and expect to be competitive in the IFBB.
Nice body....for a manlet.
Im not being negative as I would say the same about alot of very muscular 6"4 guys who just dont have a shot because their tendon lengths and muscle bellys wont be a full as shorter guys.
Its basically a sport for guys 5"8---6 foot at the highest levels...maybe 5"7 too 6"1 being generous I mean arnie was only really 6"1 legit in his prime and was super tall for a bodybuilder.
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06-28-2007, 03:13 PM #57
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Natural just means you're able to beat a piss test, doesn't mean anything about the truth.
1500lbs bench,squat,dl, u mad?
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06-28-2007, 03:22 PM #58
Even if his height does hold him back, he'll rival Priest for the best short bber status.
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06-28-2007, 03:26 PM #59
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lee preist is taller, that kid is 5'3
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Natural just means you're able to beat a piss test, doesn't mean anything about the truth.
1500lbs bench,squat,dl, u mad?
5'11-6 FEET,210-228LBS
personal trainer
aiming to be 260-280lbs of fearfull mass
max bench,545lbs 11/23/10 565lbs 7/11/11
barbell curl 185lbs, 175lbs 4 reps 9/1/09
leg press 1345lbs
squat 455lbs 9/5/09 sciatic nerve damage
deadlift 580lbs
shurgs 865lbs reps
lil 20.5 inch arms
FULL VIETNAMESE DU MA! u mad?
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06-28-2007, 03:34 PM #60
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