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    Damn! too look like that at 18, makes me shudder what he'll be at 24
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    in the spanish forum where I participate We are talking about him some time ago,here?s the thread.
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    This guy,for 18 is awsome!
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    Originally Posted by TJ_Strong View Post
    Good statement.

    People jump to conclusions way to often and not adding in the other factors.
    thank you, ive stayed 5'10 since i was 13 or 14.....i think i was 5'9 at 13 but the point of the metter is i went from 170 at 14 up to 235 at 17(prePhps ban) back down to 180(medical, personal and alot of issues) and now im back up to 220s a year and a half later, while maintaining the same bodyfat(11-13%).......its possible he could be natural, highly unlikely. chances are he started juicing at 16 or 17 and has been on massive doses of HGH and whatnot for some time. but i dont know him and im not him so im not going to throw around my opinions.
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    Originally Posted by x2thez53913 View Post
    really, im 20 now and didnt run my first cycle until a few months back and i havent grown since iw as 13, did i start roids at 13?
    no, but do you look better then some pro's at 18, thats why people are saying that he use, no one knows what age, but he didnt use as a adult obviously, but its obvious that he is on the juice, thats not genetics alone, i dont care how poor his country is, and this kid isnt a poor child reading what the thread starter posted, i gaurantee the sht is easier to get there then it is here...no red tape and goverment crap involved. He obvious has some superb people around him, trainers and maybe even a nutritionist...at 18!. This kid has the POTENTIAL to be a very good IFBB pro but who knows like i said in an earlier thread, right place, right time, the right people around u.
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    look at him and look at the kids behind him...that's not some alien myostatin bullsht there, thats the sht that comes from the kitchen, plus hardwork, the right people around u, and dedication



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    If some of you don't believe that he is juicing, I don't know what to say then ... I guess then you must believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny. The kid has mild gyno (and don't say he has striated nipples or something like that) ... look at the pics:



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    Originally Posted by Banana- View Post
    Reminds me a little of Markus Ruhl in this shot.
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    where does he go from here....when will he compete in US shows
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    put him next to any current IFBB'er and he will look small. the pic of him with the girl shows it. if he adds the size necessary to compete with big guys he will look like crap. gl, to him and he looks great but he is never gonna be a mr.olympia, probably not even top in the euro gran prix.

    compared to gunter and his competitive wife
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    anyone know how tall and how much he weighs
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    Incredibile! Obvisosly juicing at an early age..but so do alot of 'kids' at my gym and they look nowhere close to this young man...
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    Future IFBB top competitor... He better get his ass over here if he can... He'll be winning contests left and right.
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    Very nice work here has done in creating a first class body. Looking forward to seeing more of him in the future.
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    despite his height, his physique flows better than trey brewer or evan centopani. Offcourse we don't know what could happen when he does put on more weight until he does but hopefully he can keep the same shape.
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    Wow. Very nice for such a young guy. Im 18, and he puts me to shame. lol
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    I think its fair to say he's a freak, in the good sense, and assuming his pec tear heals, and he's not too short in real life, he's got some real potential
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    Originally Posted by mark118 View Post
    I think its fair to say he's a freak, in the good sense, and assuming his pec tear heals, and he's not too short in real life, he's got some real potential
    im curious about his height. next to the girl he looks 5'4 tops? hard to tell from a pic, but that could hold him back in the future. phenominal body tho for his age, just look at his competitors haha. not even in the same league.
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    That kids Chest and color are amazing. Definitely going to be a future IFBB competitor.... and at 18!
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    As far as the gyno comment (iam not saying that he doesnt do roids becaus i already said he does) but common, he is a teenager.

    Alot of teenagers has gyno
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    lol at the people who said he could be natural... alrite. look at the top natural pros in the world, who have been training for about as long as this kid has been living. they have excellent genetics, willpower, etc. to become a top natural pro, and they dont even compare to this kid who is 18. end of steroid discussion.
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    Originally Posted by [EM1]Bobby View Post
    put him next to any current IFBB'er and he will look small. the pic of him with the girl shows it. if he adds the size necessary to compete with big guys he will look like crap. gl, to him and he looks great but he is never gonna be a mr.olympia, probably not even top in the euro gran prix.

    compared to gunter and his competitive wife
    Wow strong hate dude seriously.

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    Don't want to take anything away from the kid because he looks great -- especially his serratus and abdominals. I could be wrong but from the pictures it looks like he is short and historically, short guys have not faired to well in the IFBB.

    Also, gyno is very common in teenagers (even those not on juice) but it is highly unlikely that this guy achieved this level of muscularity without juice.
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    Originally Posted by TJ_Strong View Post
    Wow strong hate dude seriously.

    The kid is 18 and your comparing him to gunther
    what hes getting at is he looks good on stage alone, but put him against a pro and he will be dwarfed. comparing how the girl makes him look fairly average while gunter could probably eat his gf for his post workout meal.
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    Ill admit he looked amazing in the first few pics...excellent flow, proportions, conditioning and muscularity...

    BUT THEN THE PIC OF HIM NEXT TO THE GIRL PUT IT ALL IN PERSPECTIVE.

    He cant compete at 5"3 standing next to normal heighted guys and expect to be competitive in the IFBB.

    Nice body....for a manlet.

    Im not being negative as I would say the same about alot of very muscular 6"4 guys who just dont have a shot because their tendon lengths and muscle bellys wont be a full as shorter guys.

    Its basically a sport for guys 5"8---6 foot at the highest levels...maybe 5"7 too 6"1 being generous I mean arnie was only really 6"1 legit in his prime and was super tall for a bodybuilder.
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    Originally Posted by x2thez53913 View Post
    really, im 20 now and didnt run my first cycle until a few months back and i havent grown since iw as 13, did i start roids at 13?


    ur 5'10. he deff isnt any taller then 5'6 or 5'7
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    Even if his height does hold him back, he'll rival Priest for the best short bber status.
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    lee preist is taller, that kid is 5'3
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    The guy is awesome but needs some bigger calves. No way he isn't juicing.
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