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    RXRugbys experiencing some good times with Nootropics (Thanks to UNIQUE NUTRITION!)

    Unique Nutrition has hooked me up with the real deal here people.

    1 bottle each of:
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    Here is some information to understand just what these products are!

    Info on Phenylethylamine
    PEA (PhenylEthylAmine) is a neuromodulator (monoamine) in the brain involved in mood and mental alertness related to the neurotransmitter Dopamine (3,4-dihydroxy-phenethylamine). It naturally occurs in some amounts in chocolate, certain algae?s and is produced in small amount in the brain from D-Phenylalanine.
    Neurochemical Effects:
    • Neuromodulator of catecholamine activity. (Enhances the transmission of dopamine and norepinephrine)
    • AMPA receptor stimulant (increases acetylcholine release through the glutamatergic system)


    Info on Picamilon

    Unique Nutrition Picamilon (also called N-Nicotinoyl GABA, Pikamilon, and Pycamilon) is a unique nootropic very popular in Russia made by bonding a niacin derivative to GABA, which enables rapidly penetration into the blood brain barrier. While it shares some of the properties of both compounds, it effects are greatly amplified. GABA Modulation [Balances GABA levels] provide stress and focus support. Cerebral Blood Flow [Tones cerebral vessels] provides mental energy/alertness support.



    Info on L-Huperzine A

    L-Huperzine A is a natural plant alkaloid (extracted from Huperzia serrata), which quickly and potently boosts memory, learning, and concentration. Used worldwide for decades in adults and high school students. It's considered the most potent short term memory enhancer available. Potently raises Acetylcholine (main memory neurotransmitter) by inhibiting its breakdown from Acetylcholinesterase. L-Huperzine A strengthens the Brain's NMDA receptors to enhance focus, learning, and brain functioning. It also stimulates the synthesis of nerve growth factor to promotes youthful cerebral functioning.


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    Anyway each of these "supplements" is very important to me in my daily activities.
    I get up at 5:30 am everyday and have class from 7 am - 1 pm, followed by work until 8 pm, sometimes I will get off early if I am lucky and get a workout in.

    Each of these supplements is important to me. Hup-A for an increase in my mental capacity and to get some A's on my tests!
    PEA is a great mood enhancer and works as short burst of energy. Sometimes I take them in the mornings to wake me up, sometimes I take them before I go to work, and soon I will be taking them PRE workout!!
    Picamilon is awesome for my stressful days...such as tests or heavy work days. Picamilon gives me focus and mental energy throughout the day.

    I will be posting up reviews of each of these products. I also plan on posting up some experimental dosages and recording the results.
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    looking forward to this RXRugby as you seem to have a tough schedule.

    do you have a plan in mind for dosing the products or are you going to just go with the flow of things?
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    Originally Posted by kieltyka34 View Post
    looking forward to this RXRugby as you seem to have a tough schedule.

    do you have a plan in mind for dosing the products or are you going to just go with the flow of things?
    Well I am trying to do a mix and match, experimental deal.

    Do you have any recommendations as to when I should take each product?

    Also, is it ok if I take PEA more than once a day?

    I really love it in the mornings to wake me up, but then when I am done with class I have to go to work where I lift heavy wood/machinery and saw stuff up. So basically I need constant energy throughout the day. I would like to take it before class and before work.

    Here is roughly what I have been doing

    4 PEA 6:00 am
    2 or 3 Hup-A 6:30 am
    2 or 3 Picamilon 1:00 pm

    I think I might switch the PEA and Picamilon around and see how that works out.
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    Well I am trying to do a mix and match, experimental deal.

    Do you have any recommendations as to when I should take each product?

    Also, is it ok if I take PEA more than once a day?

    I really love it in the mornings to wake me up, but then when I am done with class I have to go to work where I lift heavy wood/machinery and saw stuff up. So basically I need constant energy throughout the day. I would like to take it before class and before work.

    Here is roughly what I have been doing

    4 PEA 6:00 am
    2 or 3 Hup-A 6:30 am
    2 or 3 Picamilon 1:00 pm

    I think I might switch the PEA and Picamilon around and see how that works out.
    Dosing looks fine. I've used higher doses of the huperzine A with good results, so if you find in about a week or so that you really haven't improved memory at all, you might wish to up the dose to 2 caps 2x daily. Make sure to take it with meals.

    You could dose PEA twice a day though I wouldn't make it something common. You'll probably build a tolerance to the "feel good" effects of PEA (at least in my experience/opinion) rather quickly dosing it twice a day.

    I'm sure if you do thorough reviews of these products, Steve won't mind sending a sample of our soon to be released sulbutiamine which sounds great for someone like you who needs energy throughout the day.

    Again, best of luck and if you have any questions feel free to PM one of the reps (me, ATK, gfriedel, inklinked) or Steve (uniquenutrition) or post it up here. We'll do our best to answer it..
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    Todays Dosage
    PEA- 4 caps 6 am
    Picamilon- 3 caps 1 pm
    Hup- A - 2 x 2 (6:30 am and then 8:30pm)

    PEA-
    I was extremely tired this morning, I got around 6 and half hours of sleep, but I woke up in the middle of it, so I don't know if I really got any of the good "deep" sleep, what is it called...REM?
    Anyway I took 4 PEA- as I sat down to eat breakfast I noticed it.
    It makes you feel relaxed and all your muscles seem weightless. Right now as I type this my arms are sore, but this morning I don't even remembering feeling my arms, they were weightless! Along with the weightlessness and relaxed feelings, I also felt tingles, most notable in my hands and quads. I also felt a strange sensation in my head, more towards the back. I have to say I love this feeling, you feel no aches, no pains, only tiny little impulses that tell your body you feel awesome!
    EDIT: almost forgot, the "tingle" phase wears off after like 20 minutes, but the "feel good" phase continues for what seems like over half an hour. I am wondering if I should decrease dosage ( I felt a little light headed, or if I should increase dosage to have a longer lasting energy)
    Picamilon-
    Wow, today I definitely noticed the Picamilon kick in. This was my 4th day of usage and I finally noticed the effects. I had to train a new hire today, showing him the ropes of what angles to use on the saws, etc. and I felt calm and cool throughout the whole process. I seemed so focused throughout the whole day, we had a high demand today on building corn hole sets so I built a ton of them and I actually acted as a leader today and orchestrated everyone to certain stations so we could mass produce them. Picamilon gave me a great increase in focus, and mental awareness. I felt like a leader today.

    Hup-A-
    Not much to report with this. I don't know if am actually supposed to "feel" anything when I take it, like oh I can feel my brain pulsating right after I take it! But I must say I am improving a lot in German and Calculus II!! We have quizzes daily and my short term memory has been getting me 100's on every single one of them. I have 100's in both classes and I am hoping to keep them up pretty high!

    I just found out I get to test Smart Energy by UN as well!!! Thanks Steve and all you UN reps
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    Todays Dosage
    PEA- 4 caps 6 am
    Picamilon- 3 caps 1 pm
    Hup- A - 2 x 2 (6:30 am and then 8:30pm)

    PEA-
    I was extremely tired this morning, I got around 6 and half hours of sleep, but I woke up in the middle of it, so I don't know if I really got any of the good "deep" sleep, what is it called...REM?
    Anyway I took 4 PEA- as I sat down to eat breakfast I noticed it.
    It makes you feel relaxed and all your muscles seem weightless. Right now as I type this my arms are sore, but this morning I don't even remembering feeling my arms, they were weightless! Along with the weightlessness and relaxed feelings, I also felt tingles, most notable in my hands and quads. I also felt a strange sensation in my head, more towards the back. I have to say I love this feeling, you feel no aches, no pains, only tiny little impulses that tell your body you feel awesome!

    Picamilon-
    Wow, today I definitely noticed the Picamilon kick in. This was my 4th day of usage and I finally noticed the effects. I had to train a new hire today, showing him the ropes of what angles to use on the saws, etc. and I felt calm and cool throughout the whole process. I seemed so focused throughout the whole day, we had a high demand today on building corn hole sets so I built a ton of them and I actually acted as a leader today and orchestrated everyone to certain stations so we could mass produce them. Picamilon gave me a great increase in focus, and mental awareness. I felt like a leader today.

    Hup-A-
    Not much to report with this. I don't know if am actually supposed to "feel" anything when I take it, like oh I can feel my brain pulsating right after I take it! But I must say I am improving a lot in German and Calculus II!! We have quizzes daily and my short term memory has been getting me 100's on every single one of them. I have 100's in both classes and I am hoping to keep them up pretty high!

    I just found out I get to test Smart Energy by UN as well!!! Thanks Steve and all you UN reps
    REM sleep in adults typically occupies 20-25% of total sleep, lasting about 90-120 minutes. During a normal night of sleep, we usually experience about 4 or 5 periods of REM sleep; they are quite short at the beginning of the night and longer at the end. It is common to wake for a short time at the end of a REM phase. The relative amount of REM sleep varies considerably with age -wkipedia

    Hup-A might take a bit longer on you to kick in.
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    Originally Posted by AtownKing187 View Post
    REM sleep in adults typically occupies 20-25% of total sleep, lasting about 90-120 minutes. During a normal night of sleep, we usually experience about 4 or 5 periods of REM sleep; they are quite short at the beginning of the night and longer at the end. It is common to wake for a short time at the end of a REM phase. The relative amount of REM sleep varies considerably with age -wkipedia

    Hup-A might take a bit longer on you to kick in.
    Ah good info! I took psychology in highschool, but don't remember a thing from it!! I am starting to understand calculus a lot better. I have been taking Hup-A for over a week now. I think it might just be starting to kick in, especially with my dosage upped to 4 a day now.
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    Ah good info! I took psychology in highschool, but don't remember a thing from it!! I am starting to understand calculus a lot better. I have been taking Hup-A for over a week now. I think it might just be starting to kick in, especially with my dosage upped to 4 a day now.

    Are you doing? :

    2 in the am and 2 mid afternoon


    EDIT: I hate calculus
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    Originally Posted by AtownKing187 View Post
    Are you doing? :

    2 in the am and 2 mid afternoon


    EDIT: I hate calculus
    2 in the am and 2 in the late evenings. Should I do it sooner like 2 pm?

    I take my first dose 6 am, then my second dose around 7 or 8 pm

    yea I hate calculus...oh and did I mention its Calculus II!?
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    2 in the am and 2 in the late evenings. Should I do it sooner like 2 pm?

    I take my first dose 6 am, then my second dose around 7 or 8 pm

    yea I hate calculus...oh and did I mention its Calculus II!?
    I do 6am and noonish ....due to Hup-A's half-life id go no later than noon...but if you cant do it...get as close as possible.
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    Originally Posted by AtownKing187 View Post
    I do 6am and noonish ....due to Hup-A's half-life id go no later than noon...but if you cant do it...get as close as possible.
    I can definitely do it at noon. I will have to keep the half-life in mind
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    I can definitely do it at noon. I will have to keep the half-life in mind
    The exact time was posted in envy's thread if u wanna check in there for it....Its towards the begging..and theres loads of info already posted in there..if u wanna read some of it!

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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    Todays Dosage
    PEA- 4 caps 6 am
    Picamilon- 3 caps 1 pm
    Hup- A - 2 x 2 (6:30 am and then 8:30pm)

    PEA-
    I was extremely tired this morning, I got around 6 and half hours of sleep, but I woke up in the middle of it, so I don't know if I really got any of the good "deep" sleep, what is it called...REM?
    Anyway I took 4 PEA- as I sat down to eat breakfast I noticed it.
    It makes you feel relaxed and all your muscles seem weightless. Right now as I type this my arms are sore, but this morning I don't even remembering feeling my arms, they were weightless! Along with the weightlessness and relaxed feelings, I also felt tingles, most notable in my hands and quads. I also felt a strange sensation in my head, more towards the back. I have to say I love this feeling, you feel no aches, no pains, only tiny little impulses that tell your body you feel awesome!
    EDIT: almost forgot, the "tingle" phase wears off after like 20 minutes, but the "feel good" phase continues for what seems like over half an hour. I am wondering if I should decrease dosage ( I felt a little light headed, or if I should increase dosage to have a longer lasting energy)
    Picamilon-
    Wow, today I definitely noticed the Picamilon kick in. This was my 4th day of usage and I finally noticed the effects. I had to train a new hire today, showing him the ropes of what angles to use on the saws, etc. and I felt calm and cool throughout the whole process. I seemed so focused throughout the whole day, we had a high demand today on building corn hole sets so I built a ton of them and I actually acted as a leader today and orchestrated everyone to certain stations so we could mass produce them. Picamilon gave me a great increase in focus, and mental awareness. I felt like a leader today.

    Hup-A-
    Not much to report with this. I don't know if am actually supposed to "feel" anything when I take it, like oh I can feel my brain pulsating right after I take it! But I must say I am improving a lot in German and Calculus II!! We have quizzes daily and my short term memory has been getting me 100's on every single one of them. I have 100's in both classes and I am hoping to keep them up pretty high!

    I just found out I get to test Smart Energy by UN as well!!! Thanks Steve and all you UN reps
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    haha sorry I have been out of town. Tomorrow I will be posting some more reviews. I think I will take 3 Picamilon with my 4 PEA tomorrow morning and see how the 2 mix
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    Thanks all I will be updating when I get home from work early!!!
    Nice combo you got there.
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    Ok well here is my report for today

    I took 2 Hup-A this morning at 6:30 am.
    Got my German test back=100% awesome
    Got my Calculus II test back..... wtf I got a 90%
    I checked my answers and I must have went through the test too fast and missed a really easy question, so **** you Hup-A for making me feel really smart and causing me to rush through my test! JK, I always have this problem, but Hup-A is starting to kick in now, and I know I won't forget to double check on the next test!
    Took the next 2 Hup-A at Noon after eating Chipotle (dang thats good stuff)

    At around 9:30 am I took my 4 PEA and 3 Picamilon
    Things to note:
    I did NOT feel the tingles that I usually do, nor did I feel them yesterday when I did the combo.
    Normally when I felt the tingles with PEA it was taken right when I woke up before all meals of the day.
    I think either my breakfast (6:30 am) may have prevented the tingles or it could be the Picamilon.
    Anyway I still felt pretty energized and focused! Next thing I knew it was 11:30 and time for a lunch break!

    The energy/focus caused by the mix stayed until around 2 pm when I left work and started to feel drowzy on the way home.
    So I would say the effects lasted for over 4 hours of good mental focus and energy.

    I think on Thursday I will take 5 PEA and 4 Picamilon and see how that feels.
    I am worried I am starting to build up a tolerance to PEA and I may start to only use this product 2-3 times a week at most.
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    Just wanted to add that I will be receiving Pyritinol from UN to test as well.


    I just received a full bottle of Sulbutiamine, which looks awesome! This will help me a ton in the evenings. I will see if I can get a write up for you all shortly.
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    Info on Pyritinol

    -Description-

    Pyritinol (pyridoxine disulfide, pyrithioxine) is a derivative of the B vitamin pyridoxine hcl. Chemically it is 2 pyridoxine molecules bonded together by a disulfide bridge. It was created as a unique compound to enhance cognition and has been used for well over 40 years in Europe. Despite its structural similarities to the vitamin B-6 (pyridoxine) they work chemically very different and Pyritinol has no B-6 activity.

    Pyritinol 400 mg 60 capsules

    -Neurochemical Effects-

    : Increases the brain's electrical firing rate

    (Faster reaction time, mental processing, comprehension speed)

    : Boosts Glucose Metabolism

    (Supports mental energy & focus)

    - Raises cerebral cGMP levels

    (Supports cerebral vascular system)

    - Activates cholinergenic system

    (Supports memory)

    -Dose-

    Take 1-4 capsules daily.

    -When do I feel it?-

    Can be noticed in a few hours to a few days in most people.

    -Note-

    There are rare reports of severe allergic reactions to Pyritinol, if you notice any side effects while taking it discontinue taking it. If you have any health conditions or are on any medications contact your healthcare professional before using.
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    Info on Sulbutiamine

    -Description-

    Sulbutiamine (isobutyrylthiamine disulfide) is a novel fat soluble derivative of vitamin B-1 (thiamine) that rapidly and quickly crosses the blood-brain barrier.

    Developed by the amazing French pharmaceutical company Servier under the name Arcalion for mental and physical exhaustion.

    It has been shown to promote wakefulness, anti fatigue, long-term memory, improve response to stress, and have a positive effect on mood.

    Sulbutiamine 300 mg 60 capsules


    -Neurochemical effects-


    : Enhances working and episodic memory (through NDMA modulation)


    : Acts on the nervous structures responsible for physical activity, attention, and wakefulness


    : Helps tired organs to recover its mental and physical capacities


    : Improves motor coordination and resistance to muscular fatigue and awakening state


    -Dose-

    300-600 mg daily with a snack or meal containing fat.


    -When can I feel it?-


    Can be noticed within a few hours to a few days.
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    I took 3 Picamilon earlier today (9:30 am), I think I might take 4 more right before I take off. I will be going out of town and I will not be back until Thursday evening so no updates for 2 days!
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    Just wanted to add that I will be receiving Pyritinol from UN to test as well.


    I just received a full bottle of Sulbutiamine, which looks awesome! This will help me a ton in the evenings. I will see if I can get a write up for you all shortly.
    Make sure you only take 1 cap of that Sulbutiamine or you may experience some bad headaches.
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    I took 3 Picamilon earlier today (9:30 am), I think I might take 4 more right before I take off. I will be going out of town and I will not be back until Thursday evening so no updates for 2 days!
    I love it when people mega dose with nootropics lol.
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    Originally Posted by uniquenutrition View Post
    I love it when people mega dose with nootropics lol.
    I ended up only taking 3 more Picamilon. So 6 total for one day. I felt pretty relaxed during the whole drive to my friends house. I was pretty stressed out right before I left because my brother had lost my keys, which included car keys, house keys, library card, Weightroom card and some other stuff. But after taking 3 more Picamilon I just felt like it wasn't a big deal. I was pretty tired while driving, I don't know if the Picamilon caused that or not.

    I am trying to study right now for my my practice exam tomorrow, and my Final on Monday. I will be taking 4 Hup-A's and a SULB to keep me motivated. I will be curious as to how the 2 interact
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    Originally Posted by RXrugby View Post
    I am trying to study right now for my my practice exam tomorrow, and my Final on Monday. I will be taking 4 Hup-A's and a SULB to keep me motivated. I will be curious as to how the 2 interact
    Well I ended getting a lot of studying done and for once I was focused and actually wanted to study. Usually I just read the information and I forget it a minute later, but I actually remembered the info today!

    Anyway I am trying to figure out what to do tomorrow.

    2 Hup-A at 6:30 am
    What time should I take my 1 pill SULB?
    I will take 3 Picamilon at Noon
    And I will avoid PEA unless I really need it, I will take it for when I need a good short term energy boost

    is this ok? I don't think any of these supplements would react negatively with each other.
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