Have you ever watched the stongiest man competition? Wye arnt they ripped or cut?
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09-27-2004, 07:14 PM #1
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09-27-2004, 08:27 PM #3
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haha u got alooooot to learn about the iron game my frend
different type of hypertrophy from training with maximal and near maximal loads, and being ripped or cut is detrimental to strenuos strongman training which involves hours of grueling event training utilizing multiple joints and muscle groups , and hard hours of heavy training in the gym equate to a huge appetite. IF YOU WANNA BE STRONG LIKE A BEAR YOU GOTTA EAT LIKE A BEARSophomore forest resource management major at SUNY ESF
Deadlift:645@232 (NYS record, 19 yrs old
bench: 385
squat: 435 x 5 RAW
Powerclean: 245x5
Front squat: 324x4
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09-27-2004, 09:42 PM #4
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09-27-2004, 09:47 PM #5Originally Posted by BigDubDeisel
Wye arnt they ripped or cut?
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09-27-2004, 10:01 PM #6Originally Posted by BigDubDeisel"When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-Abraham Maslow
"Ass busting work + consistency + time = results.
Burn that into your head and quit looking for quick fixes and secrets. Because they don't exist."
-Lyle McDonald
"You can't overwhelm idiots with knowledge, but, sadly, the knowledgable can be overwhelmed by idiots."
-Charlie Francis
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09-27-2004, 11:14 PM #7Originally Posted by BigDubDeisel
Bodybuilder
http://www.texaschapbookpress.com/ma...odybuilder.jpg
Powerlifter
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dennis57dbig.jpg
Strongman
http://www.ifsascandinavia.com/kuvat...ndy_lazell.JPG
Which of those do you think has more realistic strength?
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09-28-2004, 08:37 AM #8
Bodybuilder
http://www.texaschapbookpress.com/ma...odybuilder.jpg
Powerlifter
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dennis57dbig.jpg
Strongman
http://www.ifsascandinavia.com/kuvat...ndy_lazell.JPG
Which of those do you think has more realistic strength?[/QUOTE]
Well said, you can really see the difference, bodybuilders don't really have strength but johnnie jackson is strong as he's a powerlifterPL is a sport where you don't get a fluke, you either make the lift or you don't
Stats:
Age:15
Weight:About 143
Height: 5'9
Deadlift:235
Bench:200
Squat:200
*Goals for 16th Birthday. 5 months away
Deadlift:250
Bench:220
Squat:230
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09-28-2004, 09:24 AM #9
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09-28-2004, 12:49 PM #10
Yeah Mariusz, He's my hero, he will be the Greatest Of All Time, he'll win WSM this year and next and then again in 2006 and carry on like that. I think he'll total at 9 WSM trophies
PL is a sport where you don't get a fluke, you either make the lift or you don't
Stats:
Age:15
Weight:About 143
Height: 5'9
Deadlift:235
Bench:200
Squat:200
*Goals for 16th Birthday. 5 months away
Deadlift:250
Bench:220
Squat:230
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09-28-2004, 01:01 PM #11
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09-28-2004, 02:07 PM #14Originally Posted by BigDubDeisel
Probaly a bad thread.
Offtopic-
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09-28-2004, 02:20 PM #15Originally Posted by HoboWithaRolex
Just in case you're not taking the piss:
-Ronnie Coleman is not as good (lb for lb) at powerlifting as top powerlifters. This is because he is not a powerlifter.
-Ronnie Coleman used to be a powerlifter. He was rather good at it. No surprise: he's a very strong guy.
-If Ronnie Coleman devoted his training to powerlifting (or had done over the last ten years or so) he might well be an excellent powerlifter.
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09-28-2004, 02:21 PM #16
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09-28-2004, 04:08 PM #17Originally Posted by tokarpowerlifter/strongman
"I ask you lord why you enlightened me,
Without the enlightment of all my foes,
He said cuz I set myself on a quest for truth,
And he was there to quench my thirst,
But I am still thirsty..."
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09-28-2004, 06:30 PM #18
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09-28-2004, 10:35 PM #19
The sport is changing though. If you look at mariusz, you will see that he is ripped like a Bber. But he ISNT some freak of nature. Actually, if you look at a lot of Polish strongman you will notice that they have similar looks to Mariusz. Strongman needs a lot cardio conditioniong these days as well as huge strength.
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09-29-2004, 07:03 PM #20
Bodybuilders have tried but more often then not have failed when competing against strongmen. Going back to the 80's when Franco Columbo(self proclaimed strongest man) and Lou Ferigno ventured into Strongman comps. and failed. Even recently we saw Eddie Elwood have trouble qualifying for WSM finals. Bodybuilders dont have a good track record because they're either not strong enough or their muscles are not used to those types of stresses resulting in injuries.
PWA
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09-29-2004, 07:16 PM #21
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hey don't rip on franco columbo...first of all he didn't do that bad at all for someone who only weighs around 200pds and is like 5 foot 4. SECONDLY franco columbo was a great powerlifting champ back before shirts were around etc. He was an IPF champion, and he had a 730 deadlift, 525 bench, and 650...all at 200pd bodyweight and basically raw, imagine a 200pd lifter benching 525 RAW? Imagine franco. if you don't think thats impressive and that he doesn't know a thing or two about pl training and strength training you are wrong, by the way he also had a 400pd clean and jerk and 285 snatch which aint too shabby for a non-oly lifter who weighs only around 200pds
Sophomore forest resource management major at SUNY ESF
Deadlift:645@232 (NYS record, 19 yrs old
bench: 385
squat: 435 x 5 RAW
Powerclean: 245x5
Front squat: 324x4
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09-29-2004, 07:27 PM #22Originally Posted by ASSMASTER
Dont get me wrong Franco is someone i've idolized since i started this game. Being 5'6 170-175lbs i can relate to this little giant. I dont remember how Franco did (I never seen the footage) but i do remember reading that he got injured carrying the safe. I said bodybuilders dont do as well because they're not used to the stresses and the ackward movements thus they tend to get injured more easily then strongmen.PWA
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10-02-2004, 02:33 PM #27Originally Posted by PureNRG
I'm #12 in Y2J's "club"...and I'm scared.
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10-03-2004, 06:01 AM #28
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10-03-2004, 10:05 AM #29Originally Posted by BigPharma"When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-Abraham Maslow
"Ass busting work + consistency + time = results.
Burn that into your head and quit looking for quick fixes and secrets. Because they don't exist."
-Lyle McDonald
"You can't overwhelm idiots with knowledge, but, sadly, the knowledgable can be overwhelmed by idiots."
-Charlie Francis
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10-03-2004, 03:09 PM #30
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