Bicep & Tricep isolation = unecessary?

[b1schoff]

I do my Shoulders Chest & Triceps together - so does that mean I have to do tricep isolation considering I do compound exercises for both Chest & Shoulders?

I do my Biceps & Back together - so does that mean I have to do bicep isolation? or does lat pulldowns & bent over bb rows do enough to train my biceps?

[karnavor]

1-2 exercises for triceps and biceps.

[b1schoff]

for isolation?

[karnavor]

for isolation?

I do standing tricep extension and skull crushers. For biceps I do barbell curls and incline curls.

[extracerealrock]

do 1-2 insolation and 1-2 compound exercises for you bicep an triceps, ex:

biceps
chinup, 3 sets, til failure
BB bicep curls, 3 sets, 12-8
concentration curls, 3 sets, 12-8

triceps
dips, 3 sets, til failure
tricep pull downs, 3 sets, 12-8
skull crushers, 3 sets, 12-8

hope that helps

[tehk]

Depends on you . I personally do Chest/Bi and Back/Tri, instead of the other way around. Since they're basically opposite muscle groups (push/pull, vice versa), I can focus and target the muscle groups more effectively. I've tried the chest/tri, back/bi method, and I found that my tri's and bi's lag after doing all that pushing and rowing. So I adapted to the new method, and I haven't looked back since .

[Ascendancy]

If I didn't do isolation, I would have stick arms.

[b1schoff]

Chest, Triceps, Shoulders, Traps
BB Shoulder Press Behind Neck 4x8-10reps
BB Standing Tricep Extensions 3x8-10reps
DB Upright Rows 4x8-10reps
DB Shrugs 3x8-10reps
Incline/Flat Press 3x8-10reps
Incline/Flat Flies 3x8-10reps

Back, Biceps, Forearms, Lats, Legs
Wrist Curls 3x8reps
Hammer Curls 3x8reps
Lat Pulldowns 4x8reps
BB Bent Over Rows 3x8reps
BB Stiff-Legged Deadlifts 4x8reps
BB Squats 5x8reps

Thats what my routine looks like so far - is it good?

[extracerealrock]

Depends on you . I personally do Chest/Bi and Back/Tri, instead of the other way around. Since they're basically opposite muscle groups (push/pull, vice versa), I can focus and target the muscle groups more effectively. I've tried the chest/tri, back/bi method, and I found that my tri's and bi's lag after doing all that pushing and rowing. So I adapted to the new method, and I haven't looked back since .

interesting, I do it the other way around because it made more sense to me because back exercises wokr your bic and most chest exercises work your tric. But you theory makes some sence too.

[Lavoisier]

Depends on you . I personally do Chest/Bi and Back/Tri, instead of the other way around. Since they're basically opposite muscle groups (push/pull, vice versa), I can focus and target the muscle groups more effectively. I've tried the chest/tri, back/bi method, and I found that my tri's and bi's lag after doing all that pushing and rowing. So I adapted to the new method, and I haven't looked back since .

wouldn't you not get teh full potential out of your back workout after doing bis the day before?

[foxshox]

Pullups have worked great for me. I mean wide grip pull downs should be pretty good. But I like to do isolation for my biceps/ticeps just because I want as big of arms/a peak as I can get.

[b1schoff]

is the routine i posted above good?