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    Why do muslims dislike the western world? Is it because we are Christian or are they jealous of our way of life, or what?

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    ^ and is it true that the Quran teaches non-violence? Why are muslims the most violent people in the world right now then in the name of their religion?
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    Originally Posted by italian stallio
    Why do muslims dislike the western world? Is it because we are Christian or are they jealous of our way of life, or what?
    I saw an interview with an egyptian recently and he asked the journalist why the western people hate the muslims so much.
    Funny coincidence.

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    Originally Posted by italian stallio
    Why do muslims dislike the western world? Is it because we are Christian or are they jealous of our way of life, or what?
    What does it mean to hate "the West" and what does the west represent to a Muslim?

    If by the West you mean North American and Europe, a few generalities can be said about this.

    This is not about being jealous of MTV or clubbing or 20" rims or drinking or dancing or music or tv shows. The conflict unfolding before our eyes is a "war of civilizations," a conflict between the rule of God and the rule of man on Earth. This is bigger than democracy, we are witnessing the events that will lead to the emergence of the Anti-Christ and the return of Jesus (pbuh) on Earth.

    Muslims do not hate the Christian nor Jewish identities of the West. Muslims are forbidden from killing or harming people for their religion especially the People of the Book (shared revelation). In fact, the average Muslim wishes that the West would ACT like the Jewish and Christian Scriptures instruct them to act, but sadly Judaism and Christianity were infiltrated by Capitalism and Secularism Centuries ago. Not having any outlined political or economic structures to begin with, the two religions were quickly consumed by a mass of disbelieving ideologies such as "sovereignty is for the people, not for God" and "separation of Church and state".

    The idea that Muslims have negative sentiments towards Western Civilization can be traced no earlier than the beginning of the 20th Century. The Ottoman Empire, the last existing version of the Islamic State, broke into separate nation-states around 1924, weakened internally with nationalism and externally from the eastern Balkan sectors, north west from WWI infighting, and south-west (where nationalist Christian Arabs were migrating and "preaching nationalism").

    Arabs were taught to separate from themselves and their Muslim brothers because of European notions of nationality and other un-Islamic forms of congregation and bases of unity. Divided, each state was capped with an instated dictator or tribal king, who ruled by secularism, socialism, communism, monarchy, every type of rule but Islam. Today the fraud is called "ruling by legislative democracy".

    By 1948, Israel had been created in the Middle East, a perpetual source of conflict, pegged in the middle of the M.E. with the support of the British and American Zionists. A continous watch tower in the ME to insure that Muslims remained declawed and distracted from political Islam.

    Since 1924, the year Muslims stopped ruling by God's laws, Muslims have seen nothing but poverty, conflict, death, and humiliation. Each time they united under some banner other than Islam (such as nationalism, language, socialism) they failed miserably at the hands of every single "western state".

    Today, Muslims have made such a strong come back in numbers and ideology that I would compare it to the state of the community much earlier than when it had weakened in 1924. The pit of spiritual weakness would be traced to the 1950s, the height of nationalism, socialism, and western influence in tv and music.

    Still politically suppressed, Muslims now recognize the long history of Western cooperation that led to the fall of the Islamic state and the source of every other failed ideological point of unity. They see plainly the West's influence on Muslim youth in the west, and how ideas such as (capitalism, legislative democracy, nationalism, sexuality, pop-culture, materialism) are colonially exported to Muslim countries as an attempt to distract people from Islam, both ideologically and politically. In addition, they recognize the damage that Capitalism and Secularism have done to the People of the Book, to people who believe in God in general, the very Christians and Jews who helped instate these false ideologies had lost control and were now being suppressed from preaching about God by legions of "politically correct" atheists, humanists, and homosexuals.

    Today, any Muslim who hates "the west" would hate if for these reasons, because "it" continues to propagate false doctrines and ideologies, distracting and suppressing Muslims from the only purpose of life, to live and rule by Islam.

    Muslims plainly see that the Iraq war, and all other wars on Islam are wars of civilizations, an attack on Islam, the last bastion of Godliness, the only religion on the planet with a complete political and economic system. A campaign against "terror" has been created by Capitalists and Secularists and other disbelievers as well as some spiteful Peoples of the Book, to once again rally oblivious Jews and Christians and agnostics against Muslims.

    The "war on terror" is designed to make every single person either detest Islam with all his heart or recognize it as Truth and become Muslim. Eventually, each non-Muslim country will find a justification to push into Muslim land. From the West, from Israel, from the North East, and from the seas.

    The effect, of course, will be to congregate the Muslims until they are back to back, and left with nothing but knowledge of God's plan, and God's Will.

    Before Jesus (pbuh) returns to unite Muslims with other believers, the anti-Christ will appear. And you can bet that the anti-Christ will lead the forces of the world against Islam with all his might. He will fail.

    Originally Posted by The Bassist
    ^ and is it true that the Quran teaches non-violence? Why are muslims the most violent people in the world right now then in the name of their religion?
    The Qur'an teaches justice in all aspects of life, especially warfare.

    This is the meaning of Jihad:

    http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Q...a00000798.aspx

    Muslims are becoming more and more violent, justifiably or not, because the Muslim world has been without the Islamic state for some 80 years now, and has been tried by God Almighty since 1924.

    I predict that all forms of violence by Muslims, justified or not by Islam, will end only once the Islamic state is re-established.

    The reason violence is wide-spread today, is because people have misunderstood the purpose of Jihad in relation to the Prophetic tradition in establishing the Islamic state. Contrary to popular belief, the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) never performed offensive Jihad to establish the first Islamic state, only to defend the Islamic state once it had been established or expand it into feuding pagan-ruled land.
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    Why is it the general consensus of the Muslim + Arab population that all Jews are evil and must die?

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    Originally Posted by BigZeke
    Why is it the general consensus of the Muslim + Arab population that all Jews are evil and must die?
    There is no such consensus, the average Jew is as much of a pawn as the average Christian in the greater scheme of things. The Israeli conflict is ideally supposed to be a stepping stone to eliminate Islam, and as much of the Jews and their Christian defenders as possible. The orchestrators don't fear God.

    Not all Muslims and Arabs hate Jews. I like Jews. I wish they would shape up, start talking less about being "Israeli" and all that other nationalistic garbage and start acting more like Moses (pbuh).
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
    There is no such consensus, the average Jew is as much of a pawn as the average Christian in the greater scheme of things. The Israeli conflict is ideally supposed to be a stepping stone to eliminate Islam, and as much of the Jews and their Christian defenders as possible. The orchestrators don't fear God.

    Not all Muslims and Arabs hate Jews. I like Jews. I wish they would shape up, start talking less about being "Israeli" and all that other nationalistic garbage and start acting more like Moses (pbuh).

    What about how all of the muslim nations celebrate when the Palestinians bomb the Israelis? How they all attacked Israel right after her decleration of independance? How none of them acknowledge Israel as a country? How they all pay the suidice bomber's families? How they always believe it's a Jewish conspiracy?

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    Originally Posted by BigZeke
    What about how all of the muslim nations celebrate when the Palestinians bomb the Israelis? How they all attacked Israel right after her decleration of independance? How none of them acknowledge Israel as a country? How they all pay the suidice bomber's families? How they always believe it's a Jewish conspiracy?
    Most of the people you are shown on tv celebrating tend to be the poorer and less educated strata of the Middle East. Most of these people don't really see the conflict for what it is.

    When "they" all attacked Israel right after its declaration, you mean the surrounding Arab states, who attacked Israel after Jewish renegades began raiding Palestinian towns. Not that I'm defending the Arabs here, who invaded only to regain palestine and subsume it into their own countries!

    Arabs don't acknowledge Israel as a country because they feel its origins are illegitimate, that it gained its land in illegal ways. Then again, I don't acknowledge the existence of any country from Morocco to Indonesia, so nation-states mean very little anyway.

    Not sure who "they" are who pay Palestinians for suicide-bombing, but being paid to get martyred is something only a nationalist would do, not a Muslim.

    Arabs always believe "it was the Jews" because in many cases in history in the M.E. it WAS the zionists. When the liberty was bombed, egypt was blame but it was actually Israeli fire. When foreign embassies were bombed in egypt, egypt was blamed until it caught Israeli spies guilty of the bombings. Much of the bombings done on Libya were because of false communication sent out from Libya about "attacking Israel" from a satelite that was planted in Libya by Israeli agents. It's all these small instances that make Arabs believe that "it's always the Jews".
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    Try to keep the questions about Islam and Muslims, not Arabs.

    This should be a higher level theological and ideological discussion, not another Palestine vs. Israel thread.
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    Why do Muslim terrorists feel it's okay to kill children?

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    Originally Posted by BigZeke
    Why do Muslim terrorists feel it's okay to kill children?
    Why does any Muslim do anything without evidence from the Qur'an and Prophetic tradition?

    = Misguidance, ignorance
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    Originally Posted by BigZeke
    Why do Muslim terrorists feel it's okay to kill children?
    idk but i think it should of been terrorists not muslim terrorist, it is like saying why do christian kkk members feel it's ok to kill anyone diffrent.

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    What's the truth about Islamic law and punishment of crimes? In countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia where they follow something similar to Hammirabi's code, is this Islamic law or just their own laws?

    Are women required to wear the traditional full body covering under Islam or is this a law based on society and culture? Also, are men required to wear beards and a turban?

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    Originally Posted by pogue
    What's the truth about Islamic law and punishment of crimes?
    That's a big question. You should ask about specific crimes i.e. punishment for adultery, theft, apostacy, and so on.

    In countries like Iran and Saudi Arabia where they follow something similar to Hammirabi's code, is this Islamic law or just their own laws?
    Not sure about Iran, but KSA selectively executes murderers and drug trafickers and cuts of the hands of thieves.

    Are women required to wear the traditional full body covering under Islam or is this a law based on society and culture?
    The Qur'an specifically states that a woman must wear two articles of clothing:

    1) A Headscarf to cover the hair

    2) A billowy cover over their body that conceals their body's shape and outline

    The Prophet (pbuh) explains that a woman's face and hands and feet may be exposed.

    Also, are men required to wear beards and a turban?
    A beard is a "sunnah" or Prophetic tradition. Shaving it off is considered a transgression. Growing one out is a rewarded deed.

    The turban, or more specifically I should say, a cap, is a Prophetic tradition as well during prayer. It is a sign of respect to God. The Prophet (pbuh) wore a white cap and a black turban most of the time, but specifically a white cap during prayer.

    Outside of prayer, the headgear is optional.
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    Why there is no such thing as a normal “Islamic” state? And do this without blaming the modern west for the fall of Islam.


    " In addition, they recognize the damage that Capitalism and Secularism have done to the People of the Book, "

    And why don’t Muslims recognize that those theories are far, far more superior to anything that Muslims or their countries have at this time.
    That while not introducing any effective Muslim system as an alternative to the superior western system, Muslims consider the western system as corrupt and evil?

    Criticizing and hating a different system (ideologically and politically or economical) designed by different people is easy and takes very little effort, however thinking of an alternative Muslim solution does not happen very often now does it?
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    I've been reading a lot about the religion, my mother turned to Islam over a year ago, and she's a white Irish, and use to be a Christian Catholic. (I'm neither religion, I got my eyes opened to Christianity about 3 years ago and I'm only intrested in Islam as something to learn about, not really to convert, or revert too).

    Still I've got some questions that she doesn't really know how to answer, I'm sure you can clear them up.

    Jihad can also be considered a personal war or struggle, as a political struggle, dying through Jihad sends you to the seventh level of heaven, What are your views/answers to this one (I don't have time to read the page you posted earlier right now, it's nearly 6am, could you just clear this up quick?) ?

    Alcohol, substances and so on are banned from the Religion, I've also been told that Music is banned from the Religion if it has nothing to do with God or Islamic beliefes.. ?

    Harm to children is against Islam, Children are born sin-free unlike in Christianity, so the "musilms" (Obviously they aren't allowed to really consider themselves Musilms anymore since they went against an important part of the religion), are misinformed ? I'm a bit clueless about what they consider themselves as.

    I know I asked 3 questions in one post, but ah well.

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    Originally Posted by FatFat Bastard
    Why there is no such thing as a normal “Islamic” state? And do this without blaming the modern west for the fall of Islam.
    There always has been a flourishing Islamic state until 1924. God willing it will be resurrected.

    And why don’t Muslims recognize that those theories are far, far more superior to anything that Muslims or their countries have at this time.
    Nothing is superior to God's Laws.

    That while not introducing any effective Muslim system as an alternative to the superior western system, Muslims consider the western system as corrupt and evil?
    Capitalism and secularism deny God's existence and rule by human legislation, of course they are corrupt, they are the anti-thesis of divine law.

    Criticizing and hating a different system (ideologically and politically or economical) designed by different people is easy and takes very little effort, however thinking of an alternative Muslim solution does not happen very often now does it?
    The alternative Muslim solution is ready and waiting to be implemented in practice.
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    bravo on helping to educate those who desire the knowledge.


    shame on those who ask bigoted questions, like:
    "why do muslim terrorists feel its okay to kill children?"
    what a stupid thing to ask.

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    Originally Posted by Stand Ablaze
    Jihad can also be considered a personal war or struggle, as a political struggle, dying through Jihad sends you to the seventh level of heaven, What are your views/answers to this one (I don't have time to read the page you posted earlier right now, it's nearly 6am, could you just clear this up quick?) ?
    Dying for the cause of God is the highest form of worship. So that's a true statement. That can mean battle. That can mean dying protecting your family or property. That can mean dying protecting your religion. It can also mean getting oppressed and killed simply because people wanted you dead because you are a Muslim and identified yourself as one and stoof for the Truth.

    Jihad means struggle in the path of God, complete devotion and sacrifice.

    As I said, military Jihad is properly outlined here:

    http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Q...a00000798.aspx

    It's worth reading just so you understand the mentality of a Muslim in Jihad

    "Sayyidina Ali (may Allah honor his face) was fighting a kafir (disbeliever) in one of the battles. During the battle Sayyidna Ali knocked him down and raised his sword to kill him. As soon as the kafir knew that he was going to be killed he spat in Sayyidna Ali’s face, so immediately Sayyidna Ali left him and went on his way. He was later asked, “Why did you leave him when Allah clearly gave you power over him?!” Sayyidna Ali replied, “I was fighting him for the sake of Allah, and when he spat in my face I feared that if I killed him it would have been out of personal revenge and spite.” "

    The Prophet (pbuh) rebuked Usaimah when he discovered that the latter had killed a man who had uttered the shahadah (oath of there is no god/deity/ideology worthy of worship but God) following a battle in which the man's tribe was defeated. When Usamah argued that he thought-at the time-that the man did so as a shelter and in fear, the Prophet (pbuh) said: "Did you look into his heart after he had confessed that there is no God but Allah?" Usamah relates: "He [the Prophet went on repeating this to me till I wished I had not embraced Islam until that day" (so that he would not be held accountable for this serious fault)

    Alcohol, substances and so on are banned from the Religion, I've also been told that Music is banned from the Religion if it has nothing to do with God or Islamic beliefes.. ?
    Yes, the concensus is that most types of music are prohibited, but not for the reason you stated above. The Prophet (pbuh) explicitly forbade it. In addition, music distracts from the rememberance of God. It is almost impossible to continue to praise God in your head while music is playing in the background.

    http://www.sunnipath.com/resources/Q...a00002024.aspx

    Harm to children is against Islam, Children are born sin-free unlike in Christianity, so the "musilms" (Obviously they aren't allowed to really consider themselves Musilms anymore since they went against an important part of the religion), are misinformed ? I'm a bit clueless about what they consider themselves as.
    They think of themselves as Muslims, but they think that the ends justify the means.

    I'm not saying they're NOT Muslims, God forbid that anyone should accuse another of that. They may sincerely be misguided, they may have ulterior motives. We don't know. What we do know is that God potentially forgives all sins except associative worship, and we don't know in what state they died, we didn't peer into their hearts.

    In reality, both the ends AND means must be lawful in order for a Muslim to act on them. Here's an excerpt of a recent piece I wrote:

    Maslaha (public interest) alone is insufficient to make an act lawful, especially when it is in conflict with a divine law, when it is speculative and hypothetical, or when the act in question is avoidable. If maslaha is not guided by an indication in Shari'ah (Qur'an and Prophetic traditions), the result is chaos in rulings where halal (permissible) and haram (impermissible) become only applicable in some places, or to some but not to others. This opens the gates to corruption and violates the timelessness of Shari'ah. In fact, the jurisprudential principle of sadd al-dhara'i "blocking the means [to sin]" prioritizes preventing an evil over securing benefits. In general, means take the ruling of the ends to which they lead. Hence, selling grapes to a winemaker is unlawful even if there is no intention to drink or sell wine. Similarly, it is the difference between opening a bank account paying negligible interest and creating an account that pays maximal interest but which one uses to pay alms, justifying the act with the "maslaha" of the poor. Usury is forbidden and the prohibition is not lifted depending on how the unlawful income is spent. In the same way, engaging in an unjust system of governance and granting persons authority to legislate un-Islamic laws to procure maslaha parallels supporting a usurious system for the public good. A system based on enslaving the poor could never be defended by channeling intrinsically unlawful money back to them. What, then, can be said about an oppressive system of governance?

    Hope that helps
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    if i died on a jihad do I get the 77 virgins or somethin in heaven, and can I piitb as well?

    Serious they might all be bad lays, do you get sex 24/7 forever??
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    bravo on helping to educate those who desire the knowledge.


    shame on those who ask bigoted questions, like:

    what a stupid thing to ask.

    it would have been bigotry if he had just said "muslims", which he did not.

    its a fact that muslim terrorists kill children.

    it would not be bigotry if someone said "why do white skinheads hate black people?"

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    What does Islam have to say concerning evolution??

    BTW, how was it flourshing till 1924?? Western civilization was flourshing, while the middle east was going backwards.

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    Originally Posted by timbo81
    if i died on a jihad do I get in heaven
    In Heaven, God gives you everything that is permissible for you. That includes food, companions, anything your heart desires or you can imagine as long as it is lawful.

    For example, you can't want to kill things in Heaven. These impure thoughts don't occur in as purified a mind as it would have to be to get to Heaven. None shall enter it but the purified.

    So I doubt you could "piitb" since this is forbidden on Earth.
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    Originally Posted by dave22
    What does Islam have to say concerning evolution??
    Islam is 100% creationist and completely refutes the idea of macroevolution (specie to new specie evolution).

    www.darwinismrefuted.com

    BTW, how was it flourshing till 1924?? Western civilization was flourshing, while the middle east was going backwards.
    How can you say that when before and after 1924, Europe and Russia were devastated by the two world wars?

    In any case, the Islamic State was always doing well, until it weakened shortly before 1924 for the reasons stated above then formally disintegrated in 1924.
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    Originally Posted by SYRIANKID
    Islam is 100% creationist and completely refutes the idea of macroevolution (specie to new specie evolution).

    www.darwinismrefuted.com



    How can you say that when before and after 1924, Europe and Russia were devastated by the two world wars?

    In any case, the Islamic State was always doing well, until it weakened shortly before 1924 for the reasons stated above then formally disintegrated in 1924.
    So you're saying that the world isn't like 5 billion years old?? What about Dinosaurs?? Or life on other planets??
    What about cavemen??

    What about the fact that Gorillas are pretty identical to humans??

    Can you own pets if you believe in Islam?? A dog perhaps?? Yet dogs are unclean animals.

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    so is there a hell, do all non muslims goto hell.

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    What has been the Muslim secret to staying to their original beliefs (as opposed to certain other Panentheist Middle-Eastern religions)? And why did Muslim societies in the past tend to be far more tolerant of other religions (even going so far as not to burn atheists, which was very nice) than almost every other country? It would seem that you can be both tolerant AND true to your beliefs.
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    Originally Posted by gimp
    bravo on helping to educate those who desire the knowledge.


    shame on those who ask bigoted questions, like:

    what a stupid thing to ask.

    I've sent you a PM regarding your public comments towards me and also the comments you made when you gave me a negative rep. point.

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