Ask about Islam

[amrbassiouny]

Originally Posted by exarch

They're not fighting for freedom, they are fighting to liquidate the jews.



No, it's because they are ignorant negroes.

Oh, and; http://www.saunalahti.fi/absent/arabinjustice.png

This is a thread to ask about Islam. You asked, you got a reply. The people fight the Jews because Islam tells them to fight opression and to fight for their land and to never allow anybody to steal their land. Islam does not distinguish between Jewish opression or Athiest opression, all opression is opression, and as long as you opress the Muslims they will fight against it. Don't try to blame the reason on something else. The Muslims fought the Russians under the banner of Islam as well, because they were fighting for their land...or...no...wait...they were fighting the jews! But how?! Russia isn't Jewish! See, your logic doesn't work.

As for children fighting in war, i'm not 100% sure, but i know that it isn't allowed. SK can give you the details on who is eligible to fight a war as he probably already knows much more than i do about this.

SK, a little support needed here.

As for the poster you posted, it is very funny. Now the Israelis are the ones who are being occupied, not the Palestinians. Actually, it's not funny, it's sad to see that anybody is stupid enough to even believe that. Palestine = occupied, Israel = Occupier. Anybody who says the opposite is utterly stupid and ignorant there is no doubt about it.

[exarch]

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

This is a thread to ask about Islam. You asked, you got a reply. The people fight the Jews because Islam tells them to fight opression and to fight for their land and to never allow anybody to steal their land. Islam does not distinguish between Jewish opression or Athiest opression, all opression is opression, and as long as you opress the Muslims they will fight against it. Don't try to blame the reason on something else. The Muslims fought the Russians under the banner of Islam as well, because they were fighting for their land...or...no...wait...they were fighting the jews! But how?! Russia isn't Jewish! See, your logic doesn't work.

Isn't it true that Qu'ran tells a muslim to not take jews or christians hostage for ransom: but to kill them immediately instead? And also that a long time peace with a jew (especially) or a christian is not acceptable? And don't lie, I already know the answer since I read it myself.

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

As for children fighting in war, i'm not 100% sure, but i know that it isn't allowed. SK can give you the details on who is eligible to fight a war as he probably already knows much more than i do about this.

http://www.saunalahti.fi/absent/children.jpg

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

SK, a little support needed here.

I'm sure, since I am unveiling your satanic religion right here in front of your own eyes.

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

As for the poster you posted, it is very funny. Now the Israelis are the ones who are being occupied, not the Palestinians. Actually, it's not funny, it's sad to see that anybody is stupid enough to even believe that. Palestine = occupied, Israel = Occupier. Anybody who says the opposite is utterly stupid and ignorant there is no doubt about it.

UK gave the jews a small piece of land for their own home under their mandate of the area. As you should know, the UK controlled "palestine" after WW1. Get some history lessons, you satan worshipper.
http://www.saunalahti.fi/absent/peacejews.jpg

[Dave22reborn]

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

This is a thread to ask about Islam. You asked, you got a reply. The people fight the Jews because Islam tells them to fight opression and to fight for their land and to never allow anybody to steal their land. Islam does not distinguish between Jewish opression or Athiest opression, all opression is opression, and as long as you opress the Muslims they will fight against it. Don't try to blame the reason on something else. The Muslims fought the Russians under the banner of Islam as well, because they were fighting for their land...or...no...wait...they were fighting the jews! But how?! Russia isn't Jewish! See, your logic doesn't work.

As for children fighting in war, i'm not 100% sure, but i know that it isn't allowed. SK can give you the details on who is eligible to fight a war as he probably already knows much more than i do about this.

SK, a little support needed here.

As for the poster you posted, it is very funny. Now the Israelis are the ones who are being occupied, not the Palestinians. Actually, it's not funny, it's sad to see that anybody is stupid enough to even believe that. Palestine = occupied, Israel = Occupier. Anybody who says the opposite is utterly stupid and ignorant there is no doubt about it.

Well I live in Illinois, with your logic I guess I should get together and start fighting the Muslims that live in Bridgeview, since they're "occupying" the land there.

And as for Israel, maybe if the Jews were treated a little better in the middle eastern countries, they wouldn't have fled to Israel.

Mein Kempf is a bestseller in the middle east, funny thing is the part of Hitler comparing Arabs to monkeys is edited out, yet they should actually hate Hitler, because where do you believe that alot of Jews fled to because of the way he was treating them????

[amrbassiouny]

Originally Posted by Dave22reborn

Well I live in Illinois, with your logic I guess I should get together and start fighting the Muslims that live in Bridgeview, since they're "occupying" the land there.

Mmmmm...i never knew you had Muslims rolling around with tanks and ethnically cleansing Americans in Illinois. If so, then i suggest you fight them out of your land.

Originally Posted by Dave22reborn

And as for Israel, maybe if the Jews were treated a little better in the middle eastern countries, they wouldn't have fled to Israel.

Jews migrated to Muslim countries after incidents in the Spanish Inquisition and they were greeted with open arms and treated extremely well. Any respectable historian will tell you exactly that.

Originally Posted by Dave22reborn

Mein Kempf is a bestseller in the middle east, funny thing is the part of Hitler comparing Arabs to monkeys is edited out, yet they should actually hate Hitler, because where do you believe that alot of Jews fled to because of the way he was treating them????

This had nothing to do with Hitler. If you pick up any history on Jewish immigration patterns and recent Jewish history, you'll realize that this was openly planned since long ago. Late in the 1890s the International Jewish Organization wanted to create a homeland for the Jews, and it chose between South America (can't remember which country exactly), Ethiopia and Palestine. They ended up chosing palestine. After that there was several waves of illegal immigrants entering Palestine from all corners. The last wave was after WWII and that's when the Jews started to create terrorist militias and began to terrorize the Palestinians out of their own homes, they also terrorized the British, the most famous occasion would be the King David Hoten bombing. Then the Palestinians started rioting against the British mandate because they weren't doing anything to stop the illegal Jewish immigrants from entering Palestine, which then lead into the whole spiral of violence leading to the UK giving the mandate to the UN, and then the UN didn't know what to do, so they just broke the land up, voted for it, and left everything in shambles.

I've studied this in very much detail and i could go in much more detail. But since this thread is for questions on Islam, not the israeli conflict, i'll stop here and i hope you do as well. If you want to debate further then PM me and we'll get that underway.

[Too-Extreme]

Originally Posted by Dave22reborn

Well I live in Illinois, with your logic I guess I should get together and start fighting the Muslims that live in Bridgeview, since they're "occupying" the land there.

And as for Israel, maybe if the Jews were treated a little better in the middle eastern countries, they wouldn't have fled to Israel.

Mein Kempf is a bestseller in the middle east, funny thing is the part of Hitler comparing Arabs to monkeys is edited out, yet they should actually hate Hitler, because where do you believe that alot of Jews fled to because of the way he was treating them????

I live about 40 minutes from Bridgeview. I hate driving in that town now that all the Muslims have moved in, all you see now is stores with arab writing on them. It makes me sick, and I am always thinking that I will be killed.

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

SK, a little support needed here.

Amr, don't bother with this guy, the only way any non-Muslim will understand the Palestinian-Israeli conflict is to study what actually happened in 1948 to Palestinians and their living conditions since then.

All other details are irrelevant.

This guy is annoying you by trying to reverse the whole basis of the conflict.

It's like the guy who repeatedly punches you in the face, but gets reporters to write a story when you hit him back.

http://www.al-awda.org/faqsonrefugees/

http://www.al-awda.org.uk/index.php?...=37&Itemid=103

[BigTruckGuy3500]

Two questions.

What is the punishment for being gay? Or is there only punishment for doing gay things?


Also, what all is unforgiveable by Allah. I believe missing and not making up salaat is one of them. Someone told me there were more today, but neither of us knew.
Thanks.

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by BigTruckGuy3500

Two questions.

What is the punishment for being gay? Or is there only punishment for doing gay things?

First you have to define what "being gay" means. While being attracted to the same gender is a perversion of lust that must be corrected and channelled to lawful means, punishments deal only with ludeness or sexual acts and crimes.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...ty#post4222380

The punishment for the homosexual act is death, as with adultery:

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) said:

Kill the one who sodomizes and the one who lets it be done to him

Also, what all is unforgiveable by Allah. I believe missing and not making up salaat is one of them. Someone told me there were more today, but neither of us knew.
Thanks.

All sins are forgivable by God with sincere repentence.

All but one sin may be forgiven by the Grace of God if one dies without repenting for them.

The only sin God has promised never to forgive is associating anything in worship with Him. For example, worshipping or thanking His Prophets (pbuh) or attributing creation, power, or divinity to them.

Surely God does not forgive that anything should be associated with Him, and forgives what is besides that to whomsoever He pleases; and whoever associates anything with God, he devises indeed a great sin. (Qur'an 4:48)

[kaz555]

if GOD love everyone and stuff, why do some people come out deformed or mentally retarted, why not miracley heal them? Whats the point of being human when you cant funcation and do simple tasks,

[kaz555]

The only sin God has promised never to forgive is associating anything in worship with Him. For example, worshipping or thanking His Prophets (pbuh) or attributing creation, power, or divinity to them.

can you explain this a little more?

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by kaz555

if GOD love everyone and stuff, why do some people come out deformed or mentally retarted, why not miracley heal them? Whats the point of being human when you cant funcation and do simple tasks,

The point is that you haven't seen the implicit trade-off God has made for the people he's tried with disability.

Why are people poor? Why are people sick?

It's because the virtues of these tried people thanking and praising God for whatever they DO have are multiples of those of people who are financially and physically well off.

God gives everyone a different endowment in this life, of health, wealth, life-span etc. But everyone is tested relative to the favors that have been bestowed on them, and everyone will be asked concerning what they did with what they had, and those who did more with less, the merit of their deeds and thanks and worship is amplified.

Then, on that day you shall be called to account for the favours bestowed upon you. (Qur'an 102:9)

Most people draw closer to God when God tests them, because they are reminded of their inherent weakness and complete dependence on God. Otherwise, the most distracted you people you find are the rich and healthy, because they arrogantly assume they are self-sufficient.

Reference: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=reminder

At the very least, if God has given you a heart to know Him and a tongue to praise Him, then He has given you Paradise, which is more than this universe and what it contains

So don't think that just because someone is handicapped that they are "worse than you". Because in reality, if they truly take advantage of God's trial, they are several times more advantaged than you, but you aren't looking at the long-term, at the big picture.

People haven't seen what the WORTH of their religious deeds and thanks are, God has specifically kept this knowledge hidden.

Also see:

The Messenger of God (pbuh) said:

“A dirham [piece of gold] won the race against a hundred thousand dirhams.” A man asked, “How, O Messenger of God?” He (pbuh) said, “A man who had great wealth and who spent a hundred thousand dirhams from it in charity, in contrast to a man who has only two dirhams and gave away one of them in charity.”

Also read:

Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere, Who say, when afflicted with calamity: "To God We belong, and to Him is our return": (Qur'an 2:155-156)

The Prophet (pbuh) said:

If God wants to do good to somebody, He afflicts him with trials.

When the Prophet (pbuh) was asked which people suffered the greatest affliction, he replied, "The prophets, then those who come next to them, then those who come next to them. A man is afflicted in keeping his religion. If he is firm in his religion his trial is severe, but if there is weakness in his religion it is made light for him, and it continues like that till he walks on the earth having no sin."

A Muslim male or female, remains subject to trials (in this world) in respect of self, children and property till he or she faces God, the Exalted, (on the Day of Judgment) in a state in which all his or her sins have been remitted.

This people of mine is one to which mercy is shown. It will have no punishment in the next world, but its punishment in this world will be trials, earthquakes and being killed.

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by kaz555

The only sin God has promised never to forgive is associating anything in worship with Him. For example, worshipping or thanking His Prophets (pbuh) or attributing creation, power, or divinity to them.

can you explain this a little more?

This is called "shirk". The most obvious example of shirk is outright paganism or polytheism. Another example is what Christians do with Jesus (pbuh).

Shirk means actually worshipping or associating anything or anyone in worship with God.

It can also mean thinking or believing that anyong but God can help you or harm you or create things. It means ascribing divine attributes to anything but God.

[TranceNRG]

hey SK...


Let's say (just say) I get an interview for medical school and they ask me for my opinion for example on abortion. I can give my own opinion, but what if they ask me whether I would perform it, if someone has made a decision to do even after I adviced against it or not. What do you think a doctor who has already adviced against it and is against it should do if a patient wants him to do it?
will he be committing a sin? it must be considered that we are in a secularist society, so if I answer NO, my chances would drop, plus, they might say, a doctor is not a councellor, once they patient has come up with the final decision, the doctor must simply do.

What do you think?

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by TranceNRG

hey SK...


Let's say (just say) I get an interview for medical school and they ask me for my opinion for example on abortion. I can give my own opinion, but what if they ask me whether I would perform it, if someone has made a decision to do even after I adviced against it or not. What do you think a doctor who has already adviced against it and is against it should do if a patient wants him to do it?
will he be committing a sin? it must be considered that we are in a secularist society, so if I answer NO, my chances would drop, plus, they might say, a doctor is not a councellor, once they patient has come up with the final decision, the doctor must simply do.

What do you think?

As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu


See, this is one of the difficult things about making a living. You have to always make sure that what you're doing is lawful, and that involves not helping others do what you aren't allowed to do, or giving them to eat what you're not allowed to eat, or helping them buy what you're not allowed to buy.

You have to always think from an Islamic perspective: "I'm helping someone do something that is sinful. I will be asked concerning this act."

You have to realize that the way you help a non-Muslim or a Muslim is to always enjoin the good and forbid the evil, because even if they don't care what's right or wrong, they will be held accountable for it.

Help ye one another in righteousness and piety. Help not one another unto sin and transgression, but keep your duty to God (Qur'an 5:2)

As you know, you can basically be asked to perform a lot of surgeries which should not be done from an Islamic perspective.

And I completely understand what you mean about seemingly harming your chances at face value by answering in the proper way, but you have to always realize WHERE your fortune comes from in the first place. The job you get, the money you make, all come from God, completely orchestrated by Him. Don't ever think that by disobeying God you will be better off in this life or the next. This is key.

My personal opinion is you should avoid as best as possible any aspects of medicine that might lead you into these sketchy areas. But as you know, medicine is almost becoming as risky as engaging in business in the West.

I think you should post a detailed question at www.sunnipath.com jurisprudence Q&A and see what they tell you.

Peace bro

W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu

[TranceNRG]

Originally Posted by SYRIANKID

As-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu


See, this is one of the difficult things about making a living. You have to always make sure that what you're doing is lawful, and that involves not helping others do what you aren't allowed to do, or giving them to eat what you're not allowed to eat, or helping them buy what you're not allowed to buy.

You have to always think from an Islamic perspective: "I'm helping someone do something that is sinful. I will be asked concerning this act."

You have to realize that the way you help a non-Muslim or a Muslim is to always enjoin the good and forbid the evil, because even if they don't care what's right or wrong, they will be held accountable for it.

Help ye one another in righteousness and piety. Help not one another unto sin and transgression, but keep your duty to God (Qur'an 5:2)

As you know, you can basically be asked to perform a lot of surgeries which should not be done from an Islamic perspective.

And I completely understand what you mean about seemingly harming your chances at face value by answering in the proper way, but you have to always realize WHERE your fortune comes from in the first place. The job you get, the money you make, all come from God, completely orchestrated by Him. Don't ever think that by disobeying God you will be better off in this life or the next. This is key.

My personal opinion is you should avoid as best as possible any aspects of medicine that might lead you into these sketchy areas. But as you know, medicine is almost becoming as risky as engaging in business in the West.

I think you should post a detailed question at www.sunnipath.com jurisprudence Q&A and see what they tell you.

Peace bro

W'as-Salaamu aleikum wa rahmat Allah wa barakatahu

Thanks alot man
That's what I was thinking as well.

It's a tough job to be a pious man in this sinful world


So I guess I shouldn't be thinking about Gynocology eh?


gotcha

[SYRIANKID]

Originally Posted by TranceNRG

Thanks alot man
That's what I was thinking as well.

It's a tough job to be a pious man in this sinful world


So I guess I shouldn't be thinking about Gynocology eh?


gotcha

Well, nothing goes unseen, nothing goes recompensed:

A companion of the Prophet (pbuh) asked another: What is your opinion about the verse "Care for yourselves." He said: I swear by God, I asked the one who was well informed about it; I asked the Apostle of God (pbuh) about it. He (pbuh) said: 'No, enjoin one another to do what is good and forbid one another to do what is evil. But when you see miserliness being obeyed, passion being followed, worldly interests being preferred, everyone being charmed with his own opinion, then care for yourself, and leave alone what people in general are doing. For ahead of you are days which will require endurance, in which showing endurance will be like grasping live coals. The one who acts rightly during that period will have the reward of fifty men who act as he does.

The hearers asked: Apostle of God, the reward of fifty of them (i.e. of people around them)? He replied: The reward of fifty of you. (i.e. the companions of the Prophet (pbuh)).

The Prophet (pbuh) said:

A time will come on people when a person will be given a choice between incapacity (not being able to do anything) and corruption. If that time falls upon you, then choose incapacity over corruption"

[exarch]

Hey, you failed to answer my "question" on whether or not islam requires a muslim to kill a christian and/or a jew on sight without hostage ransom.

[ajeh]

[8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Hey SK quick question here, what's the meaning behind this quote? I'm not going to bother trying to guess but I heard it in reference to the beheadings of civilians in Iraq.

[modem]

Originally Posted by exarch

Hey, you failed to answer my "question" on whether or not islam requires a muslim to kill a christian and/or a jew on sight without hostage ransom.

you can kill them if they attack you or are at war with them. but women,children,elderly and the unaramed are not allowed to be touched.

[ajeh]

Originally Posted by modem

you can kill them if they attack you or are at war with them. but women,children,elderly and the unaramed are not allowed to be touched.

So how do civilians that go over there to help restore the infrastructure fall into this category?

[amrbassiouny]

Originally Posted by ajeh

[8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

Hey SK quick question here, what's the meaning behind this quote? I'm not going to bother trying to guess but I heard it in reference to the beheadings of civilians in Iraq.

This verse (and whole surah) is referring to the battle of Badr, and is referring to combatants which fight against Muslims. It is basically telling them to strike the enemy in a way that would make them unable to fight again, such as cutting off the hand (by "fingertips" it refers to hand) or head.

If you would like to know more about the rules of warfare in Islam, then you cannot take this verse, or any other verse, alone. There is exhaustive study needed in the Quran and Hadith which is impossible for anybody but a seriousy scholar to do. I could refer you to certain online resources, but i'm sure SK could give you the best sites as he is more experienced than I am.

[ajeh]

Originally Posted by amrbassiouny

This verse (and whole surah) is referring to the battle of Badr, and is referring to combatants which fight against Muslims. It is basically telling them to strike the enemy in a way that would make them unable to fight again, such as cutting off the hand (by "fingertips" it refers to hand) or head.

If you would like to know more about the rules of warfare in Islam, then you cannot take this verse, or any other verse, alone. There is exhaustive study needed in the Quran and Hadith which is impossible for anybody but a seriousy scholar to do. I could refer you to certain online resources, but i'm sure SK could give you the best sites as he is more experienced than I am.

Alright I just figured I'd ask, someone was claiming that this was the justification that the terrorists were using when they cut off civilians heads. I assumed that it was in regards to something else though.

Thanks

[amrbassiouny]

Originally Posted by ajeh

Alright I just figured I'd ask, someone was claiming that this was the justification that the terrorists were using when they cut off civilians heads. I assumed that it was in regards to something else though.

Thanks

No problem.

[exarch]

All muslims are barbaric animals. I think we need to start a global campaign to nuke every muslim country and area, starting from Iraq and Chechnya.

[BigTruckGuy3500]

Ok, what about saying gay things, like one guy saying something about another guy. You know, not nice things. Or checking out another guy.

What would be an Islamic perspective on steroids?

Oh, and what about shaving my legs? I did it for the first time for a bike race I did a couple days ago without realizing it may be wrong. So I'm just wondering.

Thanks.

[DA_BEARS123]

Originally Posted by exarch

Hey, you failed to answer my "question" on whether or not islam requires a muslim to kill a christian and/or a jew on sight without hostage ransom.

Bump

I'm not saying that I agree with any opinions here, but what is the Islamic view on what to do in reaction to comments like this:

Originally Posted by exarch

All muslims are barbaric animals. I think we need to start a global campaign to nuke every muslim country and area, starting from Iraq and Chechnya.

[BigTruckGuy3500]

Originally Posted by DA_BEARS123

Bump

I'm not saying that I agree with any opinions here, but what is the Islamic view on what to do in reaction to comments like this:

If people are too ignorant and stubborn to at least look at the evidence and proofs, then just ignore them and let them deal with their mistakes come judgment day. At least that's what I think.

[TranceNRG]

Originally Posted by exarch

All muslims are barbaric animals. I think we need to start a global campaign to nuke every muslim country and area, starting from Iraq and Chechnya.

ok

[TranceNRG]

Originally Posted by DA_BEARS123

Bump

I'm not saying that I agree with any opinions here, but what is the Islamic view on what to do in reaction to comments like this:

Islamic view, I'm unsure of

But I've gotten used to ignorant comments like this on this board, and as I said before I find it funny
plus

"The thermometer of success is merely the jealousy of the malcontents." (Salvador Dali)

so more empty hateful words is just a sign of jealousy and I take it in a good way

[exarch]

Atheist view:
Kill all believers, start with the filth of the world, muslims, then proceed to kill all christians.