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    Mouth Guard and crooked teeth

    I've recently started muay thai, and got a boil and bite guard, but one of my front inscisors is overlapped and protrudes forward slightly over the other one. Does anyone know of any solutions to getting a proper fit short of getting a custom molding done at the dentist?

    Its really bothering me cause that tooth is going to take all theimpact if it gets hit since its so far foward.
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    get a good mouthguard like shock doctor..

    Dont even play around with the cheap kind.
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    Originally Posted by wanaBsedated View Post
    get a good mouthguard like shock doctor..

    Dont even play around with the cheap kind.
    Don't the shock doctors also have you boil for fit?
    I have a brain pad, and it requires boiling.
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    Shock doctor is the best of the boil and bites but it is still a boil and bite

    Try this:
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    I know you don't want to get it done at the dentist, but you could just call up and see what s/he suggests you do. S/he will know your teeth etc and could make a recommendation, or even ask to be referred to some type of sports doctor.
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    I don't think you have much choice. Either spend the money with the dentist to get the mouthpiece you really need. Or, later, spend the money with the dentist to repair the damage you will do to your teeth and mouth - and in the meantime be miserable with the annoyance and distraction as you train.
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    Originally Posted by Piper2 View Post
    I don't think you have much choice. Either spend the money with the dentist to get the mouthpiece you really need. Or, later, spend the money with the dentist to repair the damage you will do to your teeth and mouth - and in the meantime be miserable with the annoyance and distraction as you train.
    I agree with Piper here...Let us be your "Adult Voice of REASON" here (I know ya hate that, but... IT only makes sense...

    Spend $350 - $500 NOW or spend $THOUSANDS$ later. You choose.

    And if you say you don't have dental insurance...

    Think about this:
    Dental insurance AIN'T gonna pay for a Mouth Guard, Anyway.

    AND,,,, If you don't have dental insurance - when you're teeth are all broken up with that cheap ass mouth guard - who's gonna pay that $5000 dental bill?
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    The protech link I posted has the model used by many professional fighters and the most expensive model is under $100-. They send you a mold and you send it to them after you make your own impression. Just like at the dentist but for a lot less because you aren't paying the dentist to be the middle man.
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    I have been hit in the mouth before, and my front tooth also overlaps, and I have no isses at all.

    but I am going to try the ones they send you and you make a mold and they custom make it.
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    Originally Posted by mjfan12 View Post
    I have been hit in the mouth before, and my front tooth also overlaps, and I have no isses at all.

    but I am going to try the ones they send you and you make a mold and they custom make it.

    Which one you getting? I can't decide between the double or the triple.
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    Ok, I just bought a custom fit from www.opro.com. I got the heavy model in clear and this company was heavily recommended by guys on Sherdog. Oh and it only cost $30-. Turn around time is only supposed to be a couple of days to get the mold, return it, and then get the mouth guard so hopefully I will have it in about a week and can post a review.
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    I went with the pro-impact model for $64-. This model has the thickness of a medium non impact guard with the strength of a heavy model because it has a rigid liner. The mouth guard came with CD instructions on how to do the mold and was very simple. Let's see how the guard turns out.

    Ignore the quoted price in a prior post. The order got screwed up (bad price quote during checkout) and I decided to change the model from the heavy to the pro-impact.
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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    I went with the pro-impact model for $64-. This model has the thickness of a medium non impact guard with the strength of a heavy model because it has a rigid liner. The mouth guard came with CD instructions on how to do the mold and was very simple. Let's see how the guard turns out.

    Ignore the quoted price in a prior post. The order got screwed up (bad price quote during checkout) and I decided to change the model from the heavy to the pro-impact.
    good ****, let us know how it is. and can you take pics of the process? like a clean mold, then a bite of the mold, and finally when you get the mouthguard?

    Im using a shockdoctor right now, but a custom would be cool, and I'll get that later.

    I need a headgear right now, lol.
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    I didn't take a photo of the kit or the process but there is a photo of the kit at the bottom of the link:
    http://www.opro.com/info_us.asp?CountryCode=2

    What I had to do was boil some water and heat up the tray(clear mouth guard thing) and put it in my mouth just like a boil and bite. I then had to combine the two putties, line the tray with it and then put it back into my mouth to make an impression in under 40 seconds. I then had to leave the mold in my mouth for two and half minutes. Unfortunately I gagged and had to repeat the putty stage so the mold came out looking pretty crappy. I mailed it off today so I will know in a couple of days if the mold was good enough and I will post a photo of the finished product.
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    I got my mouth guard about two weeks after sending it in. The good is that it fits great. The bad is that since I messed the mold up the mouth piece came out longer on one side than the other. I think a refit should have been offered. On the other hand I can live with it and am not pursuing that from my end. Overall I'm satisfied.

    I'm not going to post a photo because the guard looks like the typical custom molded guard.
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    Protech mouthgaurds are the way to go if your going to get a custom.. i got the fusion one and it fits great. My teeth arent the straitest either.
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    People on Sherdog have been waiting months for their Protechs.
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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    People on Sherdog have been waiting months for their Protechs.
    usually it is recived within 4 weeks.. i was dumb and orderd mine at the middle of nov when the holidays started. it took like 6 weeks, but it was worth it.
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    Go to some MMA gyms and bug the trainers and ask if they know any dental people that make custom mouth guards on the side. There was a guy that did that for my friends gym and it was cheap as heck compared to if you walked into a dental office.
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    Protech (Long wait.....but it is well worth it)

    http://www.protechmouthguards.com/

    Gladiator (cheaper then protech, but it's great)

    http://www.customguards.com/

    Smartguard (for those in Canada, these guards are cheap and good)

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    http://www.unbreakablemouthpieces.com/

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    The guy who owns Protech lives like 5 minutes from me. I met him personally and got it done. Mouthguard kicks ass.
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    Originally Posted by koreanizm View Post
    The guy who owns Protech lives like 5 minutes from me. I met him personally and got it done. Mouthguard kicks ass.
    Nice!

    Protech mouth guards are good. Mine fit perfectly when I had messed up teeth. Had braces for nearly three years lol
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    Originally Posted by koreanizm View Post
    The guy who owns Protech lives like 5 minutes from me. I met him personally and got it done. Mouthguard kicks ass.
    I couldn't even get him to answer his own phone.
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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    I got my mouth guard about two weeks after sending it in. The good is that it fits great. The bad is that since I messed the mold up the mouth piece came out longer on one side than the other. I think a refit should have been offered. On the other hand I can live with it and am not pursuing that from my end. Overall I'm satisfied.

    I'm not going to post a photo because the guard looks like the typical custom molded guard.
    Why should they offer a refit if you messed up the mold?
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    Because maybe I'm paying some serious coin for what amounts to nothing more than a molded piece of polymer and they want to keep their customers happy?
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    Originally Posted by JRT6 View Post
    Because maybe I'm paying some serious coin for what amounts to nothing more than a molded piece of polymer and they want to keep their customers happy?
    Apparently not...
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    See, I would think that once I realized I screwed up the mold, I would have called to have them send me another instead. No offence but that just makes more sense to me then sending in a mold that I know isn't good hoping for a quality product.

    At this point I would think the error is on your part.
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    Originally Posted by artaxerxes View Post
    I've recently started muay thai, and got a boil and bite guard, but one of my front inscisors is overlapped and protrudes forward slightly over the other one. Does anyone know of any solutions to getting a proper fit short of getting a custom molding done at the dentist?

    Its really bothering me cause that tooth is going to take all theimpact if it gets hit since its so far foward.
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    I agree with Piper here...Let us be your "Adult Voice of REASON" here (I know ya hate that, but... IT only makes sense...

    Spend $350 - $500 NOW or spend $THOUSANDS$ later. You choose.

    And if you say you don't have dental insurance...

    Think about this:
    Dental insurance AIN'T gonna pay for a Mouth Guard, Anyway.

    AND,,,, If you don't have dental insurance - when you're teeth are all broken up with that cheap ass mouth guard - who's gonna pay that $5000 dental bill?
    TuffGirl is correct. I have about $60K in facial reconstruction hardware/implants in my mouth from snapping 3 teeth off at the gumline and shattering bone in my upper and lower mandible at the same time. It took two years, three surguries, bone grafts, and six weeks of my jaws being wired shut (lost 40lbs) to fix all of it. It sucked in a very big way. Trust me on this, spend the money on a top of the line mouth guard. The money you spend on the mouth guard can save thousands on reconstructive work down the road.
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    Originally Posted by cgc View Post
    See, I would think that once I realized I screwed up the mold, I would have called to have them send me another instead. No offence but that just makes more sense to me then sending in a mold that I know isn't good hoping for a quality product.

    At this point I would think the error is on your part.

    I told them I screwed up the mold, they said it in and they would look at it. I then got a new guard two weeks later. There is no error on my part, I'm not a friggin dentist, I don't know how to make molds of my teeth. You don't think there is a lot of error in this process? I'm sure this happens on occasion and that is built into the price of the product.


    I'm just relating my experience so take it for what it's worth. It's a good mouth guard, could have been a bit better IMO.
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