Prohormones At 20???

[K Rock 12]

Just wondering if you think taking a PH such as Hemogen 50(replaces halodrol 50) is ok to take at 20 yrs old???..was goin to stack with novedex an milk thistle...

[pu12en12g]

Just wondering if you think taking a PH such as Hemogen 50(replaces halodrol 50) is ok to take at 20 yrs old???..was goin to stack with novedex an milk thistle...

At best: RISKY as hell

At worst: Mess up your Endocrine system

[llmmss]

Just wondering if you think taking a PH such as Hemogen 50(replaces halodrol 50) is ok to take at 20 yrs old???..was goin to stack with novedex an milk thistle...

very stupid at any age.

at age 20, extremely, extremely stupid.

ur choice but. justn dont b surprised down the track when ur body starts to shut down, because there is a big chance it will happen if u do Ph at ur age, or any age so to speak.

[K Rock 12]

Thanks for the advice i'm definitely going to take it into consideration...i just have to ask though..down the line what exactly will start to shut down in my body...or what side effects will occur

[dvsness]

Do you really think you're close to your genetic potential at 20?

[ForceLineBacker]

Thanks for the advice i'm definitely going to take it into consideration...i just have to ask though..down the line what exactly will start to shut down in my body...or what side effects will occur

Unless you know the answer to that already do not even think about PH's or AAS.

[K Rock 12]

I would have to say no...i no there aren't any magical supplements out there but with a good healthy diet, basic supps such as protein/multi/creatine, are there any supplements that will give me the results close to a PH but arent actually a PH????

[frulletore]

hey dude those over the counter PH dont really do anything....they are so watered down, so save you and your liver and save ur money and spend it on good healthy food. Those PH you get over the counter have very little effect in my opinion and most of it is just a placebo effect. I took them for a few months..didnt get much out of it. Train hard!

[llmmss]

Thanks for the advice i'm definitely going to take it into consideration...i just have to ask though..down the line what exactly will start to shut down in my body...or what side effects will occur

kidneys may fail, heart may fail, wreck ur liver and therefore become prone to liver cancer, hep c & cirrhoisis, there are so many negatives.

[K Rock 12]

Unless you know the answer to that already do not even think about PH's or AAS.

Is JW not hormonal???

[Xc]

I would have to say no...i no there aren't any magical supplements out there but with a good healthy diet, basic supps such as protein/multi/creatine, are there any supplements that will give me the results close to a PH but arent actually a PH????

Ok, let me edit this, to answer your original question,I would take a year and research like crazy exactly what to do, and what to expect.

[Mertle]

Is JW not hormonal???

X-Factor is non-hormonal (<----indiscreet soliciting)

[Elementals]

it really isnt going to kill you. tbh if you have done your research and know what it is about, make your own choices.
as for genetic potential, i hardly know anyone, including pros who started taking obscene amount of steroids at their genetic potential, most were downing them before. remeber it is not the steroids that kill or do serious damage most of the time, it is the insulin / DNP / Diuretics etc that kill or cause serious health problems amoungst pros.
but for the sake of kids. no you should definately not take steroids, at 20, if you think you got training, diet, lifestyle, accept the risks, then you know you are mature enough to make the choice.

[K Rock 12]

I completely agree..i just got done reading a very good article on PH's and i'm considering I have the Hemogen 50 i'm going to only take it for 15 days first and see if the results are even worth the risk...I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELP AND OPINION!!!...THANK YOU

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/I.../m_3685/tm.htm

[PSU08]

Why even ask for help or opinions if you're just going to ignore them and do what you want to do anyway?

[XCriticalBenchX]

Trinity Stack. Its hormonal but not synthetic hormones like PHs. Raises your natty test quite well..

Mike

[Beteroffalone]

Why even ask for help or opinions if you're just going to ignore them and do what you want to do anyway?

For the off chance that the general consensus is that it's ok. Then he feels better.

I'd go Jungle Wrath at the most man. Save the PH's for much later if ever.

[PSU08]

For the off chance that the general consensus is that it's ok. Then he feels better.

Good point.....maybe next time, he could just create a poll where the only option is something like "Yes, you should definately take a PH at 20".

[Smurg]

Do you really think you're close to your genetic potential at 20?

Are pro's at their genetic potential when they start ? No.

[Beteroffalone]

Good point.....maybe next time, he could just create a poll where the only option is something like "Yes, you should definately take a PH at 20".

Hahaha, I'm actually surprised I haven't seen any of those yet. Funny stuff lol

[dvsness]

Are pro's at their genetic potential when they start ? No.

Does that change my question? Just because someone else does it doesn't mean I advocate it. I stand by my personal belief that one shouldn't use AAS/PH until they are close to their genetic potential. I also think they are best left to those who compete, and that it another opinion that I'm entitled to. Fwiw, Kai Green was a WNBF pro before he was an IFBB pro.

[Conciliator]

remeber it is not the steroids that kill or do serious damage most of the time, it is the insulin / DNP / Diuretics etc that kill or cause serious health problems amoungst pros.

What pros have died from DNP? I don't think any have...

[K Rock 12]

I have just recently canceled my order for the Hemogen 50...I'm just going to stick with the basics for now...protein/multi/creatine...

[user178944]

hey dude those over the counter PH dont really do anything....they are so watered down, so save you and your liver and save ur money and spend it on good healthy food. Those PH you get over the counter have very little effect in my opinion and most of it is just a placebo effect. I took them for a few months..didnt get much out of it. Train hard!

That is bull****. Those PHs are potent, they will give huge gains, they do have huge side effects, you can get gyno, you can shut down.

Is JW not hormonal???

It is hormonal, but I personally think it is OK to take at 20.

Trinity Stack. Its hormonal but not synthetic hormones like PHs. Raises your natty test quite well..

Mike

I agree, these are similar to something like JW, they are hormonal, but I think are OK to take at 20.

(Many will scold me for saying they are OK to take at 20, and you will say he needs to be 21, I already know.)

[theshaman]

I completely agree..i just got done reading a very good article on PH's and i'm considering I have the Hemogen 50 i'm going to only take it for 15 days first and see if the results are even worth the risk...I DO APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S HELP AND OPINION!!!...THANK YOU

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/I.../m_3685/tm.htm

I have just recently canceled my order for the Hemogen 50...I'm just going to stick with the basics for now...protein/multi/creatine...

did anyone else seem to think that he just flat out lied in here....he said he has the hemogen already, now he says he canceled the order...

[K Rock 12]

It is hormonal, but I personally think it is OK to take at 20.

I agree, these are similar to something like JW, they are hormonal, but I think are OK to take at 20.

(Many will scold me for saying they are OK to take at 20, and you will say he needs to be 21, I already know.)[/QUOTE]


I think many people would be happier to hear me say i would take something like JW, BAM, Pro Anabol, Restore rather then a harmful PH such as HALODROL 50!!

[K Rock 12]

Well I placed the order on Sunday and they sent me a order receit via e-mail but they never sent me a order number, so i just recentely sent them an e-mail canceling my order stating that i didn't do my research on PH's...now im either going to stick with the x-factor, activate stack or the JW, BAM stack..call me a liar if you'd like, but i feel no need to lie on a forum..Thanks

[user178944]

did anyone else seem to think that he just flat out lied in here....he said he has the hemogen already, now he says he canceled the order...

To the OPs credit...I don't think he ever actually said that...But I assumed, as you did.

[K Rock 12]

Well like i said i did just send an e-mail canceling the order...I didn't mean for it to seem like I had already had the Hemogen 50..Everyone's post did help me and change my mind so I am not going to take that PH's..I'm going to stick with something less harmful..Again I thank EVERYONE that wrote on this post because you changed my mind from possibly hurting my body in the future