Starting to freak out a bit.

[sbolger21]

i am doing a cycle of 1-ad and 4-ad and today was only my 5th day on it...first week i have been doing 300mg 1-ad and 300mg of 4-ad. now it could be me just being paranoid but im thinking i might be seeing a little gyno...ive always had a couple extra pounds and a little on my chest. im bulking so i suppose it could be just a little more weight but my nerves have me wondering...from what i read i thought people usually noticed a little tingling in the nipples but i havent. like i said, its only the 5th day and my dosages arent large so what do u guys think..reason to be worried or am i just panicing?

[IKilledBritney]

Originally posted by sbolger21
i am doing a cycle of 1-ad and 4-ad and today was only my 5th day on it...first week i have been doing 300mg 1-ad and 300mg of 4-ad. now it could be me just being paranoid but im thinking i might be seeing a little gyno...ive always had a couple extra pounds and a little on my chest. im bulking so i suppose it could be just a little more weight but my nerves have me wondering...from what i read i thought people usually noticed a little tingling in the nipples but i havent. like i said, its only the 5th day and my dosages arent large so what do u guys think..reason to be worried or am i just panicing?

water retention

simple as that mate

if you do notice any tingling or itching then hit the nolva straight away

[snakebyte]

grab the skin where the nipple is, feel around for any hard lumps located below the nipple, if you feel some hard "ball" like lumps, then there is a good chance you have gyno, if not, then it could still be gyno, just not a full fledged case of it, meaning there is still many things you can do to prevent it. If you wanted to, you could start taking low dosages of nolva throughout your entire cycle to prevent gyno, it will also help keep down some bloat from the 4-ad. Other than this, im not sure what to do.

[sbolger21]

im thinkin ikilledbitney is right..when i weighed myself i did have another 6 pounds of water weight and thats prob on top of some creatine water weight i had from before too. ill still keep an eye out though...thanks guys

[the_invince]

this is gynecomastia, http://www.gynecomastia.org/content/...ogallery.shtml

is it starting to look like that?

[sbolger21]

no..nothing like that. ive i little bigger other places too and there are no lumps or tingling so i think i was just being paranoid..this is my first cycle so im constantly lookin in the miror at my hair and stuff..im pretty sure its water weight.

[the_invince]

yeah that happens a lot, what most people don't realize is that when you're bulking, and taking a good ph, when the pecs grow they tend to push all the fat on them outward like a well muscled set of abs will make excess abdominal fat stick out. and most people mistake that for gyno. now if you have a really low bf% and you start to see gyno, you will know. most of those guys in the pictures are fat so some of the gyno isn't as pronounced, imagine if they were at a low bodyfat, there'd be no question about the breasts.

[legalgear]

Just watch it closely and keep a good anti-estrogen on hand like our Formadrol V2 (shameless pimp). Seriously, you don't want to mess with things like Gyno and androgens like 1-AD can displace estrogen and cause symptoms even though it can't convert to estrogen. 4-AD can possibly convert to estrogen through a few pathways, so again better be careful!

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[TheOCkid04]

now this is great!

[legalgear]

Dude, that is so sick...

[Stocks]

Ya its probaly just water I never took much notice to my nips till a little while ago and they seem to get a little bit puffy when I'm holding some water and a few weeks ago I started my first cycle and after the first week I was up 6 or 7 pounds and my nips were a bit puffy but I knew that most of the weight was water weight so I did'nt worry about it and a couple days later when I lost that bit of water they were normal again and its happened a few more times since then when I drink a lot of water they get a bit puffy but it goes away. Anyway this got me thinking as to how many people actual get gyno and how may people think they got it but its just a little bit of water.

[Mavs]

now this is great!

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