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    (Bulking) Is there such thing as too much protein/carbs? And should I change to skim?

    I weigh 171lbs, 5'10"

    I pretty sure too much fat is not good, so that is why I'm thinking about drinking skim milk instead of 2%. But if I do that, I will then have to increase the amount of milk I drink to meet my needed calories for bulking, but that will obviously make my proteins/carbs intake increase as well....

    I heard the recommended percentage of fat in a bulking diet is 20%, which is where I'm at, but do you think 70grams is too much? My diet overview is:

    (the average of workout/nonworkout)
    cals - 3100g (a little more than 500 above maintenance)
    fats - 70g (20%)
    carbs - 370g (42%)
    proteins - 275g (38%)


    Oh, and here's a view of my workout day diet:
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    ...bump
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    whats your age & body fat?
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    16 yrs old, and around 14-15%
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    any more opinions....
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    I have a similar breakdown of carbs/fat/protein, but I eat at least twice the # calories you do.
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    You must be huge
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    Originally posted by Terminator9000
    I have a similar breakdown of carbs/fat/protein, but I eat at least twice the # calories you do.
    What the hell? Your breakdown is nowhere near mine.....

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=323616
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    ..........
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    Not really a useful reply but just a sidenote. You're lucky to be able to bulk on a 3100 calorie diet at your size, i'm 5'10" 155lbs and I haven't gained anything in 2 weeks at 3300!
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    Hm, actually, I've only been on this diet for a week, and I've gained a pound or two......not sure if it'll continue.

    Anyone have an answer for my topic..
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    Originally posted by Krackerotto
    What the hell? Your breakdown is nowhere near mine.....

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=323616
    He's a dip****, ignore him, lol...



    Your macronutrient breakdown looks good, but I would definitely switch to skim milk. Dairy fats are not good. Instead, just add the amount of fats that you lose by switching to skim back into your diet from flax and fish oil. That will maintain your macronutrient ratios and give you much better fats in your diet.
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    Originally posted by Melkor




    Your macronutrient breakdown looks good, but I would definitely switch to skim milk. Dairy fats are not good. Instead, just add the amount of fats that you lose by switching to skim back into your diet from flax and fish oil. That will maintain your macronutrient ratios and give you much better fats in your diet.
    Yeah dude, I was thinking of increasing my fats from natural peanut butter to make up for the bad dairy fats I'd lose, but yeah, I think I'll just buy some flax and fish oil instead. By the way, is that two seperate things? And do you use it as a condiment...

    EDIT: flax oil = flaxseed oil?
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    You can purchase combo oils or seperate. I use fish oil capsules and flaxseed oil, so I buy them seperate.

    As far as how you take it, some people use it as a condiment, but I just pound it down by itself... It's not my favorite part of the day.
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    Originally posted by Melkor
    H Dairy fats are not good. Instead, just add the amount of fats that you lose by switching to skim back into your diet from flax and fish oil. That will maintain your macronutrient ratios and give you much better fats in your diet.
    Melkor is full of good advice, I'm kind of surprised that you have gained 1-2 lbs on this so far, that's the amount of calories I started with when I was bulking at nearly 40lbs less than you. Whatever works though.
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    Went to costco, and another grocery store, I couldn't find any flaxseed oil.....instead I bought olive oil. Good?
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    Olive oil is a good healthy unsaturated fat, but is not that great from an omega acid standpoint. It has none of the important omegas that flax and fish oils do. Feel free to cook with it though! lol.
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    Damn.......


    You know where I can find flaxseed oil?
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    Originally posted by Krackerotto

    You know where I can find flaxseed oil?
    You live in California? Go into any supplement or whole foods market, should be able to find it very easily,even the walgreens on the corner by my house has flax seed oil.
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    sweeeet, thanks a lot, dude. I'll walk over to wallgreens and see if they have some.
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