Some people told me to take it in the morning and post-workout. Other people tell me to take it Pre-workout and Before bed. Now its just confusing me.
Which should i take?
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Thread: When to take L-Glutamine?
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08-03-2004, 10:13 AM #1
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08-03-2004, 10:21 AM #2
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The best times to use it are first thing in the morning, about 30 minutes before training, immediately after training, and about 30 min before bed. L-glutamine must be taken on an empty stomach to be absorbed properly, so make sure not to eat for at least 30 min after taking it.
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08-03-2004, 11:15 AM #3Originally posted by sixthsense
The best times to use it are first thing in the morning, about 30 minutes before training, immediately after training, and about 30 min before bed. L-glutamine must be taken on an empty stomach to be absorbed properly, so make sure not to eat for at least 30 min after taking it.
thats alot your shure dude?
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08-03-2004, 11:21 AM #4
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08-03-2004, 12:02 PM #5
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Originally posted by nGuyeN321
4 times?
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08-03-2004, 01:08 PM #6Originally posted by sixthsense
The best times to use it are first thing in the morning, about 30 minutes before training, immediately after training, and about 30 min before bed. L-glutamine must be taken on an empty stomach to be absorbed properly, so make sure not to eat for at least 30 min after taking it.
the intracellular concentration of glutamine has been estimated to be around 20 mmol/L (bergstrt al. 1974). what does that mean? well, it is how much glutamine is outside the cell, but i can tell you that it means that theres at least 30-fold more glutamine intracellularly than extracellularly. that means that there is no way you can push glutamine into a cell when there is no deficiancy. the best time to take this worthless supplement is post wo. david tolson found a scientific paper show marathon runners recovered glutamine level 6-9 hours later. glutamine can be synthesized by the enzyme glutamine synthetase. so all you need is some protein post wo, not a single amino acid.
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08-03-2004, 01:13 PM #7
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08-03-2004, 01:33 PM #8
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Originally posted by MrWiggles
huh?
the intracellular concentration of glutamine has been estimated to be around 20 mmol/L (bergstrt al. 1974). what does that mean? well, it is how much glutamine is outside the cell, but i can tell you that it means that theres at least 30-fold more glutamine intracellularly than extracellularly. that means that there is no way you can push glutamine into a cell when there is no deficiancy. the best time to take this worthless supplement is post wo. david tolson found a scientific paper show marathon runners recovered glutamine level 6-9 hours later. glutamine can be synthesized by the enzyme glutamine synthetase. so all you need is some protein post wo, not a single amino acid.
I KNOW what glutamine has done for my physique and the physiques of the hundreds of people I have worked with. Plus I have discussed the subject with some of the brightest trainers in the industry and most use large amounts of glutamine with their athletes and bodybuilders.
I have been in this game for almost 20 years and am no newbie. I have kept careful records of everything that has had an effect...positive and negative...on my physique and performance which includes various dieting techniques, training methodologies, and supplementation protocols...and this is especially important when training drug free. I have also done the same with dozens of clients.
Glutamine is extremely usefull all year around but becomes even more so in dieting phases.
Post 100 studies on the subject if you wish and even better, print them and stack them in a pile and lift them over your head for 3 sets of 10 and you will begin to develop your shoulders.
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08-03-2004, 02:45 PM #9Originally posted by sixthsense
Mr Wiggly...you can post all the so-called science you want about glutamine and do your best to discredit me, but I am not going to get into an argument with you about the efficacy of glutamine. That has been done on here ad nauseum.
I KNOW what glutamine has done for my physique and the physiques of the hundreds of people I have worked with. Plus I have discussed the subject with some of the brightest trainers in the industry and most use large amounts of glutamine with their athletes and bodybuilders.
I have been in this game for almost 20 years and am no newbie. I have kept careful records of everything that has had an effect...positive and negative...on my physique and performance which includes various dieting techniques, training methodologies, and supplementation protocols...and this is especially important when training drug free. I have also done the same with dozens of clients.
Glutamine is extremely usefull all year around but becomes even more so in dieting phases.
Post 100 studies on the subject if you wish and even better, print them and stack them in a pile and lift them over your head for 3 sets of 10 and you will begin to develop your shoulders.
I'm done with this one.
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08-03-2004, 03:47 PM #10Originally posted by sixthsense
Yes, I'm sure. I have used it up to 7 times per day with awesome results. However, I am a competitive bodybuilder and you do not need to be so excessive. If you want to take it just twice per day go with 5 g before and after training on workout days and on off days 5 g in the morning and before bed."There are those that talk a good game, and then there are those that just do it!"
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08-03-2004, 04:13 PM #11
i also said why you might see positive effects on your physique if you understood it. then you go on to say you are not a noob, which i never said. and you tried to throw out an insult by calling me mr wiggly (guess you just thought that was cute). i really dont see the benefits in it, but unless you like six here in a glycogen deprived state all the time the glutamine would be beneficial converting to glucose for the blood and burning extra fat, otherwise post wo is the only time (even though you dont need glutamine to accomplish this) unless you choose to ignore the concentration difference. ive taken the science out and made it common sense. oh ya, youll have a really healthy gi tract, but thats the useless science stuff.
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08-03-2004, 04:48 PM #12
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Originally posted by BobL
But you said on an empty stomach. What if you are taking CEX 30 minutes before and right after training? How would you work in the Ox, Glutamine, and BCAA's?*CEO B Built International
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08-03-2004, 04:51 PM #13
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Originally posted by MrWiggles
i also said why you might see positive effects on your physique if you understood it. then you go on to say you are not a noob, which i never said. and you tried to throw out an insult by calling me mr wiggly (guess you just thought that was cute). i really dont see the benefits in it, but unless you like six here in a glycogen deprived state all the time the glutamine would be beneficial converting to glucose for the blood and burning extra fat, otherwise post wo is the only time (even though you dont need glutamine to accomplish this) unless you choose to ignore the concentration difference. ive taken the science out and made it common sense. oh ya, youll have a really healthy gi tract, but thats the useless science stuff.
Anyway, glutamine has helped me put on mass when in a stage of "bulking" and keep mass in a stage of "cutting." Regardless of what you say, I have absolutely zero belief you need to be in a glycogen deprived state to receive the positive effects of glutamine.*CEO B Built International
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08-03-2004, 05:19 PM #14
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08-03-2004, 08:21 PM #15
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08-03-2004, 10:55 PM #16
Re: When to take L-Glutamine?
Originally posted by nGuyeN321
Some people told me to take it in the morning and post-workout. Other people tell me to take it Pre-workout and Before bed. Now its just confusing me.
Which should i take?
Out of all you mentioned above the most important time to take Glutamine is post workout.
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08-04-2004, 12:46 AM #17
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08-04-2004, 04:05 AM #18
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08-04-2004, 07:58 AM #19
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Originally posted by Grrrr
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05-08-2013, 04:13 PM #27
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I dont think its really neccessary when calories are high.
I use it when immune system is low and I swear it works like a charm this way. In addition Iuse it pre conest when calories are low and doing twice a day hard physcial workouts . I use it postworkout 30 mins after my ppow meal, in my opinion and needs to be taken alone , or before bedDisclaimer: The above post is my personal opinion and does not represent the official position of any company or entity. It does not constitute medical advice.
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06-18-2013, 04:05 AM #28
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03-07-2014, 05:40 AM #29
Agreed. See for instance http www bodybuilding com fun/glutamine htm
I don't know if anyone has nailed down the mechanism by which glutamine causes GH levels to rise but it definitely happens. The ulcers thing was a new bit to me.
Anyways there's a lot of confusion today about what consitutes "science." Science is not what is published in journals, it is the application of the scientific method: hypothesis and experiment. 90% of science is never published, indeed much of it is kept secret by industry for competitive advantage -- and that's an observation as old as Adam Smith.
So I salute your science, sixthsense!
/rant, getting old so I am no longer even much of an amateur BB, but I do find glutamine useful, was wondering how often ppl were taking so I'm glad this 10-year-old thread was still alive.
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03-07-2014, 05:48 AM #30
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